Again: Where was Casey going for two years?

[OneLostGrl]

The irresponsibility of this family is beyond ridiculous.

No joke!

 

[travelgal]

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There's an excellent time line calendar some very hard working WS's put together here.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72183

WOW! This is AWESOME! Many, many thanks to all who created this project!
Very helpful to me since I can't keep track of my personal calendar some days!:woohoo: :blowkiss:

 

[Ripley007]

I don't have many answers to the thread topic of " Where was Casey going for two years?"
I think this is important. We know she lied about Zanny the Nanny in very serious ways, including ID theft. There was no regular babysitter other than Cindy or George as far as we know.

The thing that I keep thinking is how NO ONE is invisible. We leave traces of our steps behind with cell phones, gas receipts, people remember seeing us especially with a baby, store employees tend to recognize regular neighborhood customers, Caylee should have had a ton of vaccines and check ups.. what do we know about the presence or absence of ANY routine?

I wonder about Casey's known overall pattern of time management and hope some of you can help fill in the blanks with info in the doc dumps or another reliable source.
It was said in the first post on this thread that Cindy thought Casey worked during the evening somewhere. She indicated in her statements that Casey came by Cindy's workplace once a week or so in the early evening ( around 5 PM) dressed as if for work, with Caylee, for the purpose of Cindy watching Caylee and then taking her home.

---We know that Casey didn't work at Bennigans, Universal, Sports Authority or Disney. This is confirmed in the docs.

---Do we know that she didn't have a legitimate part- time job at all? Or just that she has lied to police about where she worked in the first released interviews?

What else do we know about Casey's daily/ weekly routine with friends, her confirmed trips out of town- was she ever on vacation for a length of time that would dispell questions about employment?

IOW, can we rule out that Casey ever worked for legit. wages after Caylee was born?

If we can't rule it out, could we make a timeline of what we know about Casey's " daily routine" for the two years of Caylee's life?
If one already exists, could someone direct me to it?

All I really know aside from the leaving Caylee with Cindy at work part is that she:
Partied with her " new' friends at Fusian
Shopped a lot for cheap clothes through illegal means shortly before her arrest.
Had several short-term flings where she and Caylee moved in or tried to move in with the guys.
Also maintained a separate group of " nice" friends from her HS days.
And that her grandmother thinks she belonged to a fitness club.

I don't know one single thing about Caylee ever being sick and seeing a doctor or going to a pediatrician for the exams and vaccines that little children have. Wouldn't Cindy have known about this for sure? I wonder if Caylee was neglected to the point of not seeing a doctor during 2 important years of her short life.

I don't even know if Casey had her own car, because the white Pontiac with decomp. evidence is said to be Cindy's car.

Great post and good points raised!
All of us who are parents (even those who's kids are "newly grown") know that for kids have regular "well-baby" check-ups for 2-3 years. These cost money. Anything to show that Caylee got her's for free at Grandma's workplace? If not, KC would have to pay, unless, as an unemployeed single Mom, she applied for Medicare. And if she applied for Medicare, they would have DEMANDED Daddy's name. Because the state isn't about to pick up the full amount without seeing if Daddy can contribute first. Saying "I dunno" to the query, who's your child's father, doesn't fly with the state medicare/welfare board. From what we know, it can be assumed, that Caylee did NOT have Medicare benefits. So she either didn't get her well-baby check-ups or she did and they were paid for with cash. Very interesting post and train of thought.

And...SJ-according to KC in her texts to Amy, Caylee DID get sick with KC having to cancel going to look at a rental house with Amy cause she took Caylee to the doctor. (Fortunately, according to KC, Caylee wasn't NEAR as sick as SHE (KC) had been. (Cause it's ALL about HER!)

And speaking of wages...are tax records public? Anyway to research GA&CA tax records to see if they were claiming Caylee as a dependent? If not, they were STUPID cause they legally qualified to!!!

 

[evergreen]

She was a candy striper at St. Elsewhere.

 

[Ripley007]

It is unless you take into account that Casey was a masterful postponer and liar.

Casey always agreed to do whatever was asked of her. She agreed to bring Jeff to dinner. She agreed to meet Amy the next afternoon to look at a house. She told Cindy numerous times she and Caylee would be home tomorrow.

But, poor Casey was a very unlucky girl and bad things kept happening to prevent her from following through. And poor Zanny kept getting in car wrecks or needed to pick up her dog or go to weddings besides having her phone shut off every other week and having to live in a house that was so hard to find Casey couldn't remember where it was.

Remember, Casey is the lady that brazenly marched into Universal with a herd of LE without flinching.

That poor Zanny with the bad luck and poor cell phone relations...such bad luck for a girl described by KC as independently wealthy and just working as a "Nanny" for the love of the job??? Go ZANNY!

 

[Ripley007]

She was a candy striper at St. Elsewhere.

Was that striper or stripper?

 

[Jolynna]

I don't have many answers to the thread topic of " Where was Casey going for two years?"
I think this is important. We know she lied about Zanny the Nanny in very serious ways, including ID theft. There was no regular babysitter other than Cindy or George as far as we know.

The thing that I keep thinking is how NO ONE is invisible. We leave traces of our steps behind with cell phones, gas receipts, people remember seeing us especially with a baby, store employees tend to recognize regular neighborhood customers, Caylee should have had a ton of vaccines and check ups.. what do we know about the presence or absence of ANY routine?

I wonder about Casey's known overall pattern of time management and hope some of you can help fill in the blanks with info in the doc dumps or another reliable source.
It was said in the first post on this thread that Cindy thought Casey worked during the evening somewhere. She indicated in her statements that Casey came by Cindy's workplace once a week or so in the early evening ( around 5 PM) dressed as if for work, with Caylee, for the purpose of Cindy watching Caylee and then taking her home.

---We know that Casey didn't work at Bennigans, Universal, Sports Authority or Disney. This is confirmed in the docs.

---Do we know that she didn't have a legitimate part- time job at all? Or just that she has lied to police about where she worked in the first released interviews?

What else do we know about Casey's daily/ weekly routine with friends, her confirmed trips out of town- was she ever on vacation for a length of time that would dispell questions about employment?

IOW, can we rule out that Casey ever worked for legit. wages after Caylee was born? Yes.
If we can't rule it out, could we make a timeline of what we know about Casey's " daily routine" for the two years of Caylee's life?
If one already exists, could someone direct me to it?

All I really know aside from the leaving Caylee with Cindy at work part is that she:
Partied with her " new' friends at Fusian
Shopped a lot for cheap clothes through illegal means shortly before her arrest.
Had several short-term flings where she and Caylee moved in or tried to move in with the guys.
Also maintained a separate group of " nice" friends from her HS days.
And that her grandmother thinks she belonged to a fitness club.

I don't know one single thing about Caylee ever being sick and seeing a doctor or going to a pediatrician for the exams and vaccines that little children have. Wouldn't Cindy have known about this for sure? I wonder if Caylee was neglected to the point of not seeing a doctor during 2 important years of her short life.

I don't even know if Casey had her own car, because the white Pontiac with decomp. evidence is said to be Cindy's car.

From Casey's phone pings and eye witness territory, Casey and Caylee stayed overnight with RM when Casey was supposed to be at work and Caylee spending her nights with Zanny.

When Casey dropped Casey off with Cindy to "work", she went out with friends.

In the days before Caylee was killed, Casey had Caylee during the afternoon. Cayle and Casey went: to subway, to RMs, out with Kristine, to the mall & cheesecake factory, Caylee was falling off of Tony's balcony, Caylee ran around Tony's apartment and let his company in and Caylee was in Tony's pool. Cindy watched Caylee every night while Casey was with Tony into the wee hours of the morning. Casey DID have to be home before 6-7 a.m. so Cindy could get ready and go to work.

From Casey's pings and George's testimony, on the last day of Caylee's life, Casey pretended to leave with Caylee. Then she brought Caylee back to her parent's house.

Caylee was never seen alive again.

According to LE documents, 2006 is the last year that ss or taxes were filed for Casey. She didn't work on-the-table after Caylee's birth.

JMO

 

[Ripley007]

From Casey's phone pings and eye witness territory, Casey and Caylee stayed overnight with RM when Casey was supposed to be at work and Caylee with Zanny.

When Casey dropped Casey off with Cindy to "work", she went out with friends.

In the days before Caylee was killed, Casey took Caylee along with her during the afternoon, to subway, the mall, cheesecake factory and Tony's pool. Cindy watched Caylee every night while Casey was with Tony into the wee hours of the morning. Casey DID have to be home before 6-7 a.m. so Cindy could get ready and go to work.

From Casey's pings and George's testimony, Casey pretended to leave with Caylee. Then she brought Caylee back to her parent's house.

Caylee was never seen alive again.

According to LE documents, 2006 is the last year that ss or taxes were filed for Casey. She NEVER had on-the-table work after Caylee's birth.

JMO

Just take a quick peek at the tax laws/rules for claiming a child as a dependent. GA&CA clearly qualified to claim her. But DID they?

 

[Jolynna]

Just take a quick peek at the tax laws/rules for claiming a child as a dependent. GA&CA clearly qualified to claim her. But DID they?

LE knows. They pulled almost everyone involved's tax records. They aren't available for us though. Somewhere it did say there were no ss or unemployment or tax records for Casey after 2006.

I would assume George and Cindy claimed Caylee. Cindy writes about how she paid for everything including medical on her myspace blog.

 

[watcher9]

In one of the LE interviews, George said that if you said 'Zanny' to Caylee she had no response. As in "Did you see Zanny today?" No reponse or reaction at all from Caylee.

But that she would respond to the names 'Lee' or 'Mallory' being spoken to her.

He also said she had no response to the name 'Zach', JeffH's ImaginarySon.

Yet I remember Cindy saying that Caylee talked about Zanny's puppy all the time.

HEL-LO? You people do live in the same house, right? Oh, that's right, I forgot. They lie.

The thing about this whole family is they ALL lie. They all tell you either what THEY want you to think, or they tell you what they think YOU want to hear. They beat anything I have ever seen. Ever.

Except maybe Shirley. She's seeing the same view that most of us see. I think she may have something with her statement that "maybe Casey hated Cindy more than she loved Casey". I think she's hit the big one there.

Sundance

In quite a few threads, I've read about George asking Caylee about the nanny, etc. and that all Caylee talked about was the puppy. And this may have already been talked about, but What about the puppy? Caylee is the only one that I think who did not lie. Who had a puppy for real that Caylee would have talked about?

 

[sua_sponte]

In quite a few threads, I've read about George asking Caylee about the nanny, etc. and that all Caylee talked about was the puppy. And this may have already been talked about, but What about the puppy? Caylee is the only one that I think who did not lie. Who had a puppy for real that Caylee would have talked about?

Didn't the guy who was posting here for a while have a puppy? Exit13 was his name.

However, keep in mind that little kids often call any sized dog a "puppy" so she could have been talking about any dog.

 

[marla]

In quite a few threads, I've read about George asking Caylee about the nanny, etc. and that all Caylee talked about was the puppy. And this may have already been talked about, but What about the puppy? Caylee is the only one that I think who did not lie. Who had a puppy for real that Caylee would have talked about?

I got the impression Cindy was talking about the Anthony family pets NOT zanny's ..

 

[Ripley007]

In one of the LE interviews, George said that if you said 'Zanny' to Caylee she had no response. As in "Did you see Zanny today?" No reponse or reaction at all from Caylee.

But that she would respond to the names 'Lee' or 'Mallory' being spoken to her.

He also said she had no response to the name 'Zach', JeffH's ImaginarySon.

Yet I remember Cindy saying that Caylee talked about Zanny's puppy all the time.

HEL-LO? You people do live in the same house, right? Oh, that's right, I forgot. They lie.

The thing about this whole family is they ALL lie. They all tell you either what THEY want you to think, or they tell you what they think YOU want to hear. They beat anything I have ever seen. Ever.

Except maybe Shirley. She's seeing the same view that most of us see. I think she may have something with her statement that "maybe Casey hated Cindy more than she loved Casey". I think she's hit the big one there.

Sundance

OK. Put yourself in GA's shoes. Your little granddaughter lives with you daily. One day you ask her about her day. Asking about Zanny the Nanny and she just gives you a blank look. Would you just let it drop, never to be mentioned again, or would raise a RED flag with you, perhaps the topic of conversation with the child's mother later in the night??????????? DUH!!!! How STUPID does GA think WE are???????????????????

 

[jon_burrows]

According to Shirley P, Casey always had money. I guess you'd say shame on my kid's grandparents too, because none of them, on either side, ever met anyone who watched my children. It would seem strange to me if they'd wanted to.

No, I didn't live at home. If I had, there would have been even less reason for them to meet the nanny as they'd have seen that my children came home unharmed and happy every day. I was an adult person capable of choosing my own children's babysitters and didn't want nor need my parent's approval of that person. If they had insisted on meeting my sitters, I would have felt they were overstepping their bounds.

I think the big difference is Cindy/George were the main caretakers of Caylee and they all lived in the same house. There was no father in the picture so Cindy/George were next of kin. Let's say Casey got into a car accident and was hospitalized, Cindy/George would need a contact for the nanny. Cindy of all people (being a nurse) would know the importance of having an emergency contact number/residence of the nanny. After all, Cindy discussed having legal documents written to ensure they would get Caylee in the event of Casey's death....but never thought...hmmm how do we contact the nanny in an emergency. :waitasec: It doesn't make sense.

Just curious Chilly, if you had been in an accident when your children were young did anyone have a number or residence of your babysitter to contact?

 

[marla]

OK. Put yourself in GA's shoes. Your little granddaughter lives with you daily. One day you ask her about her day. Asking about Zanny the Nanny and she just gives you a blank look. Would you just let it drop, never to be mentioned again, or would raise a RED flag with you, perhaps the topic of conversation with the child's mother later in the night??????????? DUH!!!! How STUPID does GA think WE are???????????????????

Nevermind!!!
Just how stupid is George???


:seeya:

 

[Ripley007]

Nevermind!!!
Just how stupid is George???


:seeya:

True! This IS the better question...:bang:

 

[Vegas Bride]

Where was Casey going for two years?

My answer, she was going absolutely nowhere! She was doing everything she could do do nothing but sit on her butt stagnating, trying to keep herself a teenage girl who had nothing better to do than play on her computer, text on her cell and daydream about the new "hot" boy in her life. She was spinning her wheels getting nowhere while she saw friends make the transition into adulthood, they did things like have a real job, an apartment of their own, yet there sat Casey who built herself up with tales of her job, complete with make-believe co-workers and the pain of demands from her fake job.
The highlight in her miserable life was to pose for a camera so she could post news pictures of herself on-line. Wow- wasn't she just the coolist!!!!!!

I'm getting myself to worked up just thinking about what Miss Thang did so I better quit before I get a time-out.

VB

 

[miimaa]

Just curious Chilly, if you had been in an accident when your children were young did anyone have a number or residence of your babysitter to contact?

Exactly!! My sister and I knew each other's daycare providers because we often had to drop off/pick up each other's kids. Grandmas sometimes came with to pick up the kids as well. As for KC dropping Caylee off to Cindy's work on the way to her imaginary job - didn't Cindy ever just say "I'll pick Caylee up when I get off work" ??

 

[magic-cat]

I think that Casey came back to the house almost all the time when it was going to be empty and that the puppy that Caylee was referring to was one of or both of the ones that lived right there with her.

 

[miimaa]

My kid also came home from daycare with 'things' -- cupcakes they made, drawings, coloring book pages. If I had to work late my sister picked my son up... my brother-in-law picked him up. I don't understand G&C never wondering who the daycare provider was - why Cindy couldn't pick up Caylee from dayafter rather than being brought to her job - why Caylee didn't stay with George until he went to work and he dropped her off. Paying for daycare is either a flat weekly rate or hourly. I didn't like having my little one in daycare and to save money if anyone in may family could watch him, pick him up early, drop him off later that is what I did. With my own grandson if I'm off early I pick him up or I've had him overnight and drop him off on my way to work next morning. I don't understand G&C's lack of involvement with the daycare provider (I refuse to use the presumptuous term nanny) especially since Caylee lived with them.