AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #3

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Yes the phone story has always seemed off. It seems like DW found her missing phone
in the parking lot at Dublin’s pretty quickly- did he go inside to look for it or immediately find it on the ground outside? What a great eye! Why did he not wait there for her longer if he thought DNV was following him to Dublin’s? He found her phone, decided she wasn’t showing up and he was leaving very quickly. (11:37 I believe) left and got to Ollie’s by 12. If her phone was indeed that obvious and easy to see In the parking lot, it seems someone else would’ve seen it already and turned it in or something. How did he find that “missing phone” so fast? And why did he leave Dublins so fast if he believed (as he has said) that DNV left the Shell after him and was following him there?

This goes against my DW is telling the truth and car #3, who DNV prearranged to meet at the Shell did something. No stone unturned though...

I understand DW texted MK at 11:37 to say he arrived at Dublin's but lost DNV along the way so he was waiting for her. He waited 20 minutes and then arrived at Ollie's at midnight. That would line up with him being Car 1, leaving Shell at 11:07, arriving at Dublin's at 11:22, parking, looking for the phone, talking to the bartender, waiting a few minutes and texting MK at 11:37.

If he's car 3 (leaving Shell 11:24), he wouldn't have had time to pull into Dublin's, walk inside, get her phone and text MK by 11:37.

I don't know if any of this is true but I do think 20 minutes is a reasonable time to wait for your friend and then go to the next place to see if maybe you misunderstood and she went right to Ollie's.
 
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I understand DW texted MK at 11:37 to say he arrived at Dublin's but lost DNV along the way so he was waiting for her. He waited 20 minutes and then arrived at Ollie's at midnight. That would line up with him being Car 1, leaving Shell at 11:07, arriving at Dublin's at 11:22, parking, looking for the phone, talking to the bartender, waiting a few minutes and texting MK at 11:37.

If he's car 3 (leaving Shell 11:24), he wouldn't have had time to pull into Dublin's, walk inside, get her phone and text MK by 11:37.

I don't know if any of this is true but I do think 20 minutes is a reasonable time to wait for your friend and then go to the next place to see if maybe you misunderstood and she went right to Ollie's.

I honestly keep thinking maybe it was a possible drug deal with intent to hook up after. When she didn't show DW thought she second guessed.
 
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Its an interesting idea but I keep coming back to the Car 3 pulling in quickly after DW left DNV at Shell station. Could DNV have been driving around like you said and have been followed and didn't realize it and the Shell was perfect opportunity to abduct DNV after DW left the Shell to return to Dublin's?

This is one of my theories. Someone followed DNV from Dublin's not realizing she was following DW. When they signaled DW pulled off, DNV pulled off, and Car 3 kept driving or pulled off into one of the many deserted-looking lots next to the Shell Station. When Car 1 left, Car 3 immediately pulled in alone with DNV and something happened.

Was it someone known to her who lured or emotionally manipulated her to follow? Or someone who harmed her there and she drove out as an occupant, not a driver, of her car?
 
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Its an interesting idea but I keep coming back to the Car 3 pulling in quickly after DW left DNV at Shell station. Could DNV have been driving around like you said and have been followed and didn't realize it and the Shell was perfect opportunity to abduct DNV after DW left the Shell to return to Dublin's?
I think it might be a possibility. And, I’ve wondered whether the vagueness of DW’s reported phone conversation with JDT the next morning may be due to the possibility of being overheard by his spouse while making the call. And, when researching whether someone can make a call on a locked phone, I found this.
How to Make a Call From Your iPhone Lock Screen
 
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I think it might be a possibility. And, I’ve wondered whether the vagueness of DW’s reported phone conversation with JDT the next morning may be due to the possibility of being overheard by his spouse while making the call. And, when researching whether someone can make a call on a locked phone, I found this.
How to Make a Call From Your iPhone Lock Screen

I think you're right. That makes perfect sense. If he told his wife he was meeting RC for some drinks he may have told her he found one of RC's friend's phone - just some girl.
 
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I understand DW texted MK at 11:37 to say he arrived at Dublin's but lost DNV along the way so he was waiting for her. He waited 20 minutes and then arrived at Ollie's at midnight. That would line up with him being Car 1, leaving Shell at 11:07, arriving at Dublin's at 11:22, parking, looking for the phone, talking to the bartender, waiting a few minutes and texting MK at 11:37.

If he's car 3 (leaving Shell 11:24), he wouldn't have had time to pull into Dublin's, walk inside, get her phone and text MK by 11:37.

I don't know if any of this is true but I do think 20 minutes is a reasonable time to wait for your friend and then go to the next place to see if maybe you misunderstood and she went right to Ollie's.


I agree- if this scenario is accurate, then it satisfies my doubts that I mentioned before. Thank you
 
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Everyone is pointing fingers at the 3 friends for not making a public statement but why hasn't TT made any statement when the mother of his child disappeared into thin air?
 
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I honestly keep thinking maybe it was a possible drug deal with intent to hook up after. When she didn't show DW thought she second guessed.
This sounds very plausible.
 
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Its an interesting idea but I keep coming back to the Car 3 pulling in quickly after DW left DNV at Shell station. Could DNV have been driving around like you said and have been followed and didn't realize it and the Shell was perfect opportunity to abduct DNV after DW left the Shell to return to Dublin's?

Trying to better under the service road leading to the Shell station

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This is one of my theories. Someone followed DNV from Dublin's not realizing she was following DW. When they signaled DW pulled off, DNV pulled off, and Car 3 kept driving or pulled off into one of the many deserted-looking lots next to the Shell Station. When Car 1 left, Car 3 immediately pulled in alone with DNV and something happened.

Was it someone known to her who lured or emotionally manipulated her to follow? Or someone who harmed her there and she drove out as an occupant, not a driver, of her car?
Bingo !!...... This is what I too believe happened. I wish I knew the answers to your last two questions.
 
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Everyone is pointing fingers at the 3 friends for not making a public statement but why hasn't TT made any statement when the mother of his child disappeared into thin air?
Preach it!!!
“He’s cleared” because he was in jail, rehab, halfway house.. or possibly on vacation in the Bahamas. Hasn’t been confirmed yet o_O
 
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Everyone is pointing fingers at the 3 friends for not making a public statement but why hasn't TT made any statement when the mother of his child disappeared into thin air?

When I first found out his name... I googled and saw where he made a post somewhere on SM and sharing the missing persons flyer and referred to DNV as his girlfriend... but of course I can’t find it any more
 
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I understand DW texted MK at 11:37 to say he arrived at Dublin's but lost DNV along the way so he was waiting for her. He waited 20 minutes and then arrived at Ollie's at midnight. That would line up with him being Car 1, leaving Shell at 11:07, arriving at Dublin's at 11:22, parking, looking for the phone, talking to the bartender, waiting a few minutes and texting MK at 11:37.

If he's car 3 (leaving Shell 11:24), he wouldn't have had time to pull into Dublin's, walk inside, get her phone and text MK by 11:37.

I don't know if any of this is true but I do think 20 minutes is a reasonable time to wait for your friend and then go to the next place to see if maybe you misunderstood and she went right to Ollie's.

I was trying to post a thought last night but the systems was very slow so I went to bed. I think this timeline is accurate. I am thinking, what if the plan was to buy some weed and the contact was DNV's. The plan was made prior to leaving Dublin to meet at the Shell Station. There was not any flashing of lights. DNV and DW arrive at the planned spot and DNV realizes she forgot her phone at Dublin, remembers placing it on a car while she looked through her purse for her keys or something ( I have done this). Since she knows the supplier she stays and DW goes to retrieve her phone and says she will meet him at Dublin. She never arrives, he cannot contact her so goes to Ollies. In his mind she knows the supplier so he would not be concerned anything bad happened so he would not think to go back to the Shell Station. Sounds like DNV would know several people who could supply weed and most seem to have a dangerous side to them. Maybe they saw DW leave the parking lot and was not happy she was with another fellow. MOO
 
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This is one of my theories. Someone followed DNV from Dublin's not realizing she was following DW. When they signaled DW pulled off, DNV pulled off, and Car 3 kept driving or pulled off into one of the many deserted-looking lots next to the Shell Station. When Car 1 left, Car 3 immediately pulled in alone with DNV and something happened.

Was it someone known to her who lured or emotionally manipulated her to follow? Or someone who harmed her there and she drove out as an occupant, not a driver, of her car?

Now I like this theory as well!
 
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This is one of my theories. Someone followed DNV from Dublin's not realizing she was following DW. When they signaled DW pulled off, DNV pulled off, and Car 3 kept driving or pulled off into one of the many deserted-looking lots next to the Shell Station. When Car 1 left, Car 3 immediately pulled in alone with DNV and something happened.

Was it someone known to her who lured or emotionally manipulated her to follow? Or someone who harmed her there and she drove out as an occupant, not a driver, of her car?

There may be more information that DW shared with LE, and this third car could be part of the information. The area of the Shell station is a closed off area, any vehicle getting off the interstate or in the general area would be very visible. You can see this on the street view.

Right next to the Shell Station is a place that sells outdoor buildings. Plenty of places to park for a "meeting", then just east of there is a Pawn shop called Eddies Wholesale Jewelry. They used to be open 24 hours with a walk up window but I'm not sure if they do that any longer. As you continue heading Northeast on the service road just past Cottage Hill Road you will come across Hotel Row. This is one of the areas in Mobile that is pretty seedy, drugs, prostitution, crime ... etc etc. Matter of fact there was just a murder there a week or so ago.

I still think DW is involved and has something to do with her disappearance or knows exactly who was responsible. He is absolutely the key.
 
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I was trying to post a thought last night but the systems was very slow so I went to bed. I think this timeline is accurate. I am thinking, what if the plan was to buy some weed and the contact was DNV's. The plan was made prior to leaving Dublin to meet at the Shell Station. There was not any flashing of lights. DNV and DW arrive at the planned spot and DNV realizes she forgot her phone at Dublin, remembers placing it on a car while she looked through her purse for her keys or something ( I have done this). Since she knows the supplier she stays and DW goes to retrieve her phone and says she will meet him at Dublin. She never arrives, he cannot contact her so goes to Ollies. In his mind she knows the supplier so he would not be concerned anything bad happened so he would not think to go back to the Shell Station. Sounds like DNV would know several people who could supply weed and most seem to have a dangerous side to them. Maybe they saw DW leave the parking lot and was not happy she was with another fellow. MOO

This was my very original theory... back on the other thread. then the discussion became focused on why would a drug deal be set up in a public parking lot with cctv... from everyone I’ve asked most drug deals are set up in parking lots of public places. The dealers don’t invite people to their houses generally. I wonder if the dealer was a friend or Acquaintance of TT? Is that why JCD “knew” what happened to DNV according the victim in his case?

RCs friend TW stated that all three of her friends have been cleared by LE and we should be looking elsewhere and not focused on them...
 
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Asking a person that would know... they said anytime they’ve bought weed here in Mobile it’s been at a gas station. And the dealer usually gets in the back seat and the exchange takes place.

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With all the recent drug bust here in town I would bet that if the third car was a dealer and they saw Car one meet then pull off they would be highly suspicious and think there was a set up especially if it’s more than weed being bought
 
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I keep thinking back to MT case, there was so much hyper focus on her family and her Bf and his family, Bc that’s all we had to focus on
I can’t remember if it was here or on fb, but a poster floated out the idea of migrant farm workers and was rather dismissed, possibly Bc of the use of the word migrant
FF, and bam, it was a non-migrant farm worker
I am stuck over the fact her car hasn’t been found...so possibly chop shop, but I have this gut feeling it, and danni, are going to be found in water. And the 3 sets of initials will be able to say to the lynch mob, see how wrong you were?
 
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I keep thinking back to MT case, there was so much hyper focus on her family and her Bf and his family, Bc that’s all we had to focus on
I can’t remember if it was here or on fb, but a poster floated out the idea of migrant farm workers and was rather dismissed, possibly Bc of the use of the word migrant
FF, and bam, it was a non-migrant farm worker
I am stuck over the fact her car hasn’t been found...so possibly chop shop, but I have this gut feeling it, and danni, are going to be found in water. And the 3 sets of initials will be able to say to the lynch mob, see how wrong you were?

I keep getting the feeling her car might be in a bigger city... With possibly a switched tag blending right in. If she is no longer alive then I would not be surprised if her body is somewhere else other than mobile… Some where along the way to wherever her car is.
 
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