AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #4

[Keyedin]

DNV left Shell station alone in her car per Exclusive: Surveillance video may show missing Mobile mother

If the footage is too bad to make out vehicles and/or whether anyone got out, then how could they say with any certainty that she left alone?

Family says that DW says he was headed home and DNV must have gotten confused, but everyone has been clear in that she knew where Ollie's was. So, why would she not just go there upon realizing he was either passing it or going the wrong direction? Especially if they barely knew each other and she had closer friends at Ollie's. I am unsure about where I stand on the DW knowledge of the incident, but what I do know is it doesn't entirely make sense.

If the reporter could make out that DNV left the Shell on her own, I would think she would have made a point to say if anyone at any time had gotten out of their vehicle, much less been in or near DNV's car prior to any of the vehicles leaving the Shell.

I don't think it's any safer to assume anyone exited their vehicle than it is to say they stayed in their vehicle.

Supposedly DW is both car 1 and 3, which really questions how he made it from Dublin's to the Shell in 20 minutes and then back in like 10. How is that possible? Why leave the Shell to just come right back?

If he's just Car 1, at what point did he text MK? When he first got to Dublins or after he waited a while?

My whole point to the timeline I posted this morning was to use the information that we know, without a shadow of a doubt, is true and can be confirmed by LE or MSM- through sources outside of "she said that he said"...I understand there's not that much, but again the best way to hide is in plain sight- so starting from the bottom what could have been missed that's right in front of our faces?

 

[Cmpeezy251]

We do not know DNV but TT has been arrested for heroin possession with intent to distribute so that's why I kept asking about harder drugs. That's a different and much more dangerous world than drinking and smoking pot.

And that would confirm the “possible additional footage in a more populated place” I recall reading.

More populated might be the 24 hour gas station on the opposite side of the overpass maybe?? Going towards the area of the other carjackings... if she set up a deal somewhere then she would’ve called or text someone to do so.

 

[CabinFever]

We do not know DNV but TT has been arrested for heroin possession with intent to distribute so that's why I kept asking about harder drugs. That's a different and much more dangerous world than drinking and smoking pot.

Well, in my experience, with relatives that are or have been addicted to heroin, I have never seen a long term relationship with the addict where the significant other does not also partake.

She couldn't have been using through the pregnancy (and maybe not for awhile before, who knows), but the adoption agency likely would have had blood tests done through the pregnancy. Her work history supports the fact that she wasn't likely a current user also.

As for that night, who knows?
You know, now that it's been confirmed that Shell was not the last sighting, but why was LE was so sensitive about the tape coming out?

Another thing, did I hear that right that she said DW & DV were at the Shell Station for about 20 min together?!

MPR Talk Radio: Missing Person, Danniella Nikole Vian

 

[AtticusFitz]

In the interview, JDT says everyone is a suspect, even herself.

She also says in this interview that TT was in jail "for a month but not for anything major". TT was living with DNV as 'best friends' at the time of her disappearance but they weren't together.

 

[AtticusFitz]

And who is answering the questions?

JDT.

 

[Keyedin]

And that would confirm the “possible additional footage in a more populated place” I recall reading.

More populated might be the 24 hour gas station on the opposite side of the overpass maybe?? Going towards the area of the other carjackings... if she set up a deal somewhere then she would’ve called or text someone to do so.

Or downtown?

 

[AtticusFitz]

And that would confirm the “possible additional footage in a more populated place” I recall reading.

More populated might be the 24 hour gas station on the opposite side of the overpass maybe?? Going towards the area of the other carjackings... if she set up a deal somewhere then she would’ve called or text someone to do so.

Possibly Waffle House? Chief made reference to searching all along the corridor for additional CCTV.

 

[Alethea]

Where is downtown Mobile, what JDT calls midtown? Can someone put it on a map compared to Dublin's, Ollie's, and the Shell?

 

[Cmpeezy251]

Could car 1 & 2 be dealer and buyer (DW or DNV) 3 be either DNV or DW? Maybe she had to go to the restroom before she headed back to the Dublin...so she went to that 24 hour station or one of the other places open.

Those 24 hour stations creep me out

 

[Keyedin]

Where is downtown Mobile, what JDT calls midtown? Can someone put it on a map compared to Dublin's, Ollie's, and the Shell?

It is opposite of Dublins. When leaving the shell, you would take a left on Government and just go continue down into midtown until you run into downtown.

 

[Alethea]

It is opposite of Dublins. When leaving the shell, you would take a left on Government and just go continue down into midtown until you run into downtown.

East of Shell? Like further away from Dublin's?

 

[CabinFever]

Danniella was loving mother, worked very hard, good saver of money. Everything she did was with the purpose of getting daughter more often. Daughter was custody of "in-laws" for stability and insurance, until parents could take over custody (which was in the process).
She met a guy and happened to get pregnant. It was open and amicable. Open adoption that DV was comfortable with doing. Bio-father not mentioned other than that she met & got pregnant. It was not TT.
She had a car that was wrecked so went without a car for around 6months. She saved for the downpayment for this car & actually still owed a balance on the down & this is why she went straight back to work after birth.
Everyone is a suspect.
She was with TT on/off for 6+ years. He was in jail for about a month when she disappeared for "nothing major". TT says through JT that DV knew the one male server "well" and TT had met him, but didn't really know him.
Danni lost phone often so JT wasn't alarmed when DW called having her lost cell phone.
Had note put on apartment door saying JT knew where her lost cell was so call.
JT felt there was something wrong Thursday night and filed report Friday am.

"Apparently they sat there for about 20 minutes or so and he (DW) said let's go back and look there (at the previous pub)". Story given by DW to JT. When she asked why they were so far away from where they were headed, JT feels DW made up a little story about DV following him home by mistake. JT discussed that discrepancy with LE and he said DW probably told him much more than he told you (JT). She was fine with that answer.

JT says, "they do have DV and DW leaving Shell Station separately in their individual cars. They see them on surveillance and they were able to follow them for awhile and they did actually split up. He (DW) was actually headed toward where he said he was headed and and she (DV) went off in a different direction toward mid town on her own basically. She was headed to a more populated area"

She was begging LE to prove to her it was not a sex trafficking case and they did not feel it was. That is the reason for giving her the extra info of DV leaving Shell Station.

MPR Talk Radio: Missing Person, Danniella Nikole Vian

 

[Cmpeezy251]

East of Shell? Like further away from Dublin's?

Yes... the area the shell is in is kinda on the outskirts of midtown... maps aren’t my forte. But this general area

 

[CabinFever]

So if we believe this radio interview, DW and DV were at Shell together for longer than just a couple of minutes? Maybe that was true that there were only 2 cars total at the Shell Station as mentioned earlier. That DW is car #1 and #3? That makes sense to me. That would explain why LE was upset that the tape was released. They were trying to put pressure out making it look like they saw something there they didn't, and divert attention from DW since they may believe he's not involved.

DV probably used his cell phone to call the person they were initially supposed to be meeting on the down-low. So DW offers to go grab the phone since it's DV's connection and she can go the opposite direction and get what they'd planned. (I'm speculating).

That's why he (DW) waited 20 min for her at Ollie's with the phone and thought she blew him off and was not alarmed. That would also explain why LE told JT that DW was a little more forthcoming with info to them, than he was her and she accepted that answer so easily.

Now I have to wonder, did any family members of JT's (MIL) live near a "more populated area"?

 

[Alethea]

I'm waffling on what I think.

 

[CabinFever]

If DV was in recovery or sober for any real period of time, her family would not keep referring to her as "getting her life together" instead of saying adamantly that she no longer used. I am getting the feeling that this was a drug deal gone south. It had to be people she knew or she wouldn't have headed there alone.

TT sounds (speaking through mom JT) as if he's accepted that she is not living.
Does anyone have the link to the phone interview done by TT's aunt early on? When it was suggested in that interview that it was a drug deal, she said something like "that's what we figured might have happened" ...
I am not saying she is reliable, or there is evidence of this. I am saying this is all sounding like a more likely scenario.
Poor girl =(

 

[Keyedin]

Yes further

East of Shell? Like further away from Dublin's?

 

[Keyedin]

Listening now, but I keep starting it over trying to rewind. Ugh

 

[Cmpeezy251]

If DV was in recovery or sober for any real period of time, her family would not keep referring to her as "getting her life together" instead of saying adamantly that she no longer used. I am getting the feeling that this was a drug deal gone south. It had to be people she knew or she wouldn't have headed there alone.

TT sounds (speaking through mom JT) as if he's accepted that she is not living.
Does anyone have the link to the phone interview done by TT's aunt early on? When it was suggested in that interview that it was a drug deal, she said something like "that's what we figured might have happened" ...
I am not saying she is reliable, or there is evidence of this. I am saying this is all sounding like a more likely scenario.
Poor girl =(

Yes... The could’ve been the first time she went alone... and someone decided she was an easy target. That area she was heading (if accurate) makes me suspect that even more.

My daughter was freaked out at a 24 hour gas station she went to a year or so ago... one of the clerks came from behind the counter and locked the door. When she asked him what he was doing he just kept walking towards her while she kept walking backwards. He kept asking why she was running away and backing up he only wanted to take a picture with her which was not likely considering her hair was not fixed and she just threw on something to run up there not to mention that’s weird as hell... thankfully a customer came up and started banging on the door.

 

[AtticusFitz]

Yes... the area the shell is in is kinda on the outskirts of midtown... maps aren’t my forte. But this general area

One of the early statements by JDT that was subsequently retracted/erased was that the DNV vehicle was last pinged on Dauphin Street which I believe is where some bars and/or restaurants might have been open at the hour when DNV was leaving Shell station. Maybe she was looking for some of her friends to hang out with as she had so far spent the night with people who were more acquaintances versus friends her own age? RC was an exception as he was a longstanding work friend but the others in the group seem to have been longstanding friends of each other and not necessarily DV. I wonder how she decided to start the evening with the group of people she did as it seemed an odd choice to me. Where were her usual friends that night?