Found Deceased AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #6

[cody22]

This is going to take me a while since unfortunately so much of our discussion has been deleted and there is no media thread for DNV (and I'm at work lol). I'll look through the press conferences, but I have in my notes that LE said the footage was bad quality and they couldn't be sure car 3 was different than car 1.
Here's a reminder of how awful the footage is on the surveillance camera (this still is taken from NBC 15 facebook- the link now says they removed the video footage but this remains there)

Does anyone think that now that she's been found, presumably, they'll release the video??? Honestly I don't think there's anything to be seen in it, but maybe it could clear up for us why LE said DNV was "occupying" her vehicle instead of saying she was "driving" her vehicle
Also does anyone think she was killed at the Shell station? Going through old threads looking for an answer for Cody, this was an interesting discussion/question I saw.

Thank you for the above. I remember all this and the many discussions well. I will just wait to see what LE comes up with in the future.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

This is going to take me a while since unfortunately so much of our discussion has been deleted and there is no media thread for DNV (and I'm at work lol). I'll look through the press conferences, but I have in my notes that LE said the footage was bad quality and they couldn't be sure car 3 was different than car 1.
Here's a reminder of how awful the footage is on the surveillance camera (this still is taken from NBC 15 facebook- the link now says they removed the video footage but this remains there)

Does anyone think that now that she's been found, presumably, they'll release the video??? Honestly I don't think there's anything to be seen in it, but maybe it could clear up for us why LE said DNV was "occupying" her vehicle instead of saying she was "driving" her vehicle
Also does anyone think she was killed at the Shell station? Going through old threads looking for an answer for Cody, this was an interesting discussion/question I saw.

I differ in my thoughts about the video providing more information. Why would LE take it down so quickly? If it does not show anything than who cares who sees the video. Possibly there is more video.

 

[mks762]

I differ in my thoughts about the video providing more information. Why would LE take it down so quickly? If it does not show anything than who cares who sees the video. Possibly there is more video.

My thinking was LE wanted whoever did this to think they had something, even if they didn't. If I had done this and knew there was a surveillance video I'd be terrified, but if I had seen the surveillance video and knew how horrible the quality was and saw that you couldn't see anything then I'd rest a lot easier. Just devils advocate. There may very well be something on there, LE did say she was seen occupying her vehicle so they must have been able to see something.
ETA do you think they'll release it now that her car and possibly DNV herself have been found?

Also anyone have any clue as to when we'll get positive ID on the body?
I'm so curious what was found in the car, where she was found in the car, what the odometer read, what the gear shift was positioned on, cause of death and if she's really been there for 9 months. Oh I hope they found some evidence in that car. I so badly want to see the person(s) who did this to her face justice.

 

[3dzer0]

I differ in my thoughts about the video providing more information. Why would LE take it down so quickly? If it does not show anything than who cares who sees the video. Possibly there is more video.

This has always been a huge question for me as well, if the video showed something that could have helped find Daniella why wouldn't it be released, unless the video can be used for some sort of evidence.

Considering the GPS was disabled, quit, broke or fell out at this location and the video was not released points to more happening at the Shell station that we are aware of. IMO only.

 

[3dzer0]

And another small missing piece of information stated by LE:

"
Cpl. DuBose says any information, no matter how small it seem, may help police find and save Vian’s life.

“Something that a camera didn't pick up, something that somebody didn't see that thought later on, ‘You know what, I do remember seeing this,’” Cpl. DuBose said, adding “If you see anything or know anything it doesn’t hurt to give a call.”"


Exclusive: Surveillance video may show missing Mobile mother

 

[Keyedin]

The only comment about identification was that it could take days or weeks due to the level of decomposition. In one of the PC's the chief did say that the car appeared to have been there a while, but didn't clarify if the decomposition was from the water or other elements. "A while" is such a vague, blanket answer.

 

[GiveItArrest]

He lives in Theodore which is about equal distance in opposite direction from the Shell than Saraland.

Theodore property with connection to missing Mobile woman under investigation

Some of his family live/previously lived in Saraland.

 

[otto]

Where in the world did you get that I was implying DNV was “a drunken drugged up part animal” by me saying that LE has said car 1 and car 3 could be the same car???? Please do not put words in my mouth. I’ve followed this case since day one. I’ve never ever been in the camp that thought she was looking for drugs. I was just pointing out that it’s possible there were two cars and not three. DW could have turned around and pulled back in. This is something that law enforcement has said.

That is the initial theory throughout the first discussion. Car 1 and 3 are the same, Danni and her friends were on a party train, they went to the Shell station to buy drugs, Danni was fine when she left the Shell station. It is a theory that has been discussed in depth and which leads to logical consequences such as: Danni left the Shell station voluntarily, she and her friend disabled the GPS on her vehicle.

Let's suppose that the only people at the Shell station were Danni and her friend. She chose to disable the GPS, she chose to abandon her phone, she chose to disappear. Does that make sense given that she was found submerged in her car in 30 feet of water?

 

[otto]

I differ in my thoughts about the video providing more information. Why would LE take it down so quickly? If it does not show anything than who cares who sees the video. Possibly there is more video.

IIRC, there are two photos of the video circulating. They appear to be photos of a computer screen and taken at an angle. I wouldn't discount the importance of the video based on those two poor quality photos.

 

[Keyedin]

That is the initial theory throughout the first discussion. Car 1 and 3 are the same, Danni and her friends were on a party train, they went to the Shell station to buy drugs, Danni was fine when she left the Shell station. It is a theory that has been discussed in depth and which leads to logical consequences such as: Danni left the Shell station voluntarily, she and her friend disabled the GPS on her vehicle.

Let's suppose that the only people at the Shell station were Danni and her friend. She chose to disable the GPS, she chose to abandon her phone, she chose to disappear. Does that make sense given that she was found submerged in her car in 30 feet of water?

I don't think assuming Car 1 and 3 were the same implies that DNV did ANYTHING willingly. There have been no named POI, so I feel like you kind of have to operate under the assumption that nobody has been cleared by LE.

 

[otto]

I don't think assuming Car 1 and 3 were the same implies that DNV did ANYTHING willingly. There have been no named POI, so I feel like you kind of have to operate under the assumption that nobody has been cleared by LE.

Let's break it down a bit.

Hypothetically, Danni and her friend are at the Shell station. No one else is there. She forgot her phone at the pub and they agree to return to the pub to collect the phone.

While she is at the Shell station, her GPS is disabled and police can confirm that she was "occupying" her car. Her friend returns to the pub where her phone has been turned in. He collects the phone, and his time is accounted for including returning his rental car shortly after midnight.

Doesn't that mean that when she left the Shell she was fine? Doesn't it also mean that she and her friend disabled the GPS? No one else was there, so that must be what happened.

Given that she is found 10 months later 17 miles away submerged in her car in 30 feet of water, does it still seem realistic that she disabled her GPS with her friend, abandoned her phone and her life, and put herself in the water?

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Let's break it down a bit.

Hypothetically, Danni and her friend are at the Shell station. No one else is there. She forgot her phone at the pub and they agree to return to the pub to collect the phone.

While she is at the Shell station, her GPS is disabled and police can confirm that she was "occupying" her car. Her friend returns to the pub where her phone has been turned in. He collects the phone, and his time is accounted for including returning his rental car shortly after midnight.

Doesn't that mean that when she left the Shell she was fine? Doesn't it also mean that she and her friend disabled the GPS? No one else was there, so that must be what happened.

Given that she is found 10 months later 17 miles away submerged in her car in 30 feet of water, does it still seem realistic that she disabled her GPS with her friend, abandoned her phone and her life, and put herself in the water?

No it does not. I still believe as you have stated, the phone caused problems. No one expected her to forget/lose her phone.

 

[otto]

No it does not. I still believe as you have stated, the phone caused problems. No one expected her to forget/lose her phone.

Even if we take the phone out of the equation, Danni would still have disappeared that night in her new car. The difference is that her friend would not have reported that she was missing. No one else reported that she was missing. Even though she missed work and appointments with her daughter, no one acted on the fact that she vanished.

Everything else would have happened exactly as it did.

Her mother in law obtained full custody of Danni's daughter a few days later, contrary to Danni's wishes. Danni's apartment was quickly emptied and her belongings left on the curb. Rumors circulated that Danni was a party animal with drug abuse problems who may have chosen to abandon her life.

The one friend who reported her missing was portrayed as responsible for her disappearance in spite of the fact that he is the only person to report her missing. Logically, that is absurd. Who harms a young mother and then reports her disappearance to police?

 

[Chelly]

With no one reporting DNV missing, the family would likely claim, at some point, that on the day Danni drove off in her new car, she abandoned her family and left town for a new life.

 

[3dzer0]

Let's break it down a bit.

Hypothetically, Danni and her friend are at the Shell station. No one else is there. She forgot her phone at the pub and they agree to return to the pub to collect the phone.

While she is at the Shell station, her GPS is disabled and police can confirm that she was "occupying" her car. Her friend returns to the pub where her phone has been turned in. He collects the phone, and his time is accounted for including returning his rental car shortly after midnight.

Doesn't that mean that when she left the Shell she was fine? Doesn't it also mean that she and her friend disabled the GPS? No one else was there, so that must be what happened.

Given that she is found 10 months later 17 miles away submerged in her car in 30 feet of water, does it still seem realistic that she disabled her GPS with her friend, abandoned her phone and her life, and put herself in the water?

Just a couple of points I would like to add. Why I completely understand your way of thinking and it is much along the lines I think as well, we still have no definitive information other than rumors and hearsay.

We do know that someone and Daniella was at the Shell station, we do not know if there was someone else present at the time. We also do not know what information that someone (Likely DW) shared with LE and didn't share with JDT or other friends.

There are a ton of unanswered questions, and just a small one is when DW dropped off his rental car after midnight (Still hearsay) who was with him? Did someone pick him up? did he get in a cab?

I think everyone's theories are great and I love to see people think things through, but in all reality we are ALL operating with such a tiny bit of fact that it is impossible to come to any distinct theory that is viable.

 

[The Night Watchman]

Let's break it down a bit.

Hypothetically, Danni and her friend are at the Shell station. No one else is there. She forgot her phone at the pub and they agree to return to the pub to collect the phone.

While she is at the Shell station, her GPS is disabled and police can confirm that she was "occupying" her car. Her friend returns to the pub where her phone has been turned in. He collects the phone, and his time is accounted for including returning his rental car shortly after midnight.

Doesn't that mean that when she left the Shell she was fine? Doesn't it also mean that she and her friend disabled the GPS? No one else was there, so that must be what happened.

Given that she is found 10 months later 17 miles away submerged in her car in 30 feet of water, does it still seem realistic that she disabled her GPS with her friend, abandoned her phone and her life, and put herself in the water?

BBM

Interesting. Could Danni have disabled her own GPS as part of a plan to disappear with her daughter?

And someone else caught wind of her plan and made sure it did not happen?

 

[otto]

Just a couple of points I would like to add. Why I completely understand your way of thinking and it is much along the lines I think as well, we still have no definitive information other than rumors and hearsay.

We do know that someone and Daniella was at the Shell station, we do not know if there was someone else present at the time. We also do not know what information that someone (Likely DW) shared with LE and didn't share with JDT or other friends.

There are a ton of unanswered questions, and just a small one is when DW dropped off his rental car after midnight (Still hearsay) who was with him? Did someone pick him up? did he get in a cab?

I think everyone's theories are great and I love to see people think things through, but in all reality we are ALL operating with such a tiny bit of fact that it is impossible to come to any distinct theory that is viable.

We have a lot more than rumor. We know what she did that day and during the evening. We know the witness who saw her last, when and where that was. We know that she was alone with an unidentified vehicle when her GPS was disabled. We know that her friend was picking up her phone when she vanished. We know that her friend returned his rental car shortly after midnight and was not ending her life. We know who reported her missing, and that it was not a family member.

It is always possible to follow the logic of a theory. If Danni's friend is portrayed as responsible for her disappearance, why is he the only person to report that she was missing? I've never heard of a murderer reporting to police that his victim is missing so they should start looking for her.

Even if he is not portrayed as a murderer, but only as the person who helped her disable the GPS, why would he report her missing? Under those circumstances he is a friend who helped her skip town without paying for the car and she is not missing.

I cannot see any logical connection between the facts that we have, and Danni's friend having any role other than the only person who was alarmed by her disappearance.

 

[otto]

BBM

Interesting. Could Danni have disabled her own GPS as part of a plan to disappear with her daughter?

And someone else caught wind of her plan and made sure it did not happen?

I'm sure there are easier ways to steal a car than to buy a car and disable the GPS. Furthermore, there's no reason to assume that Danni is a car thief.

 

[Mauig’ma]

We have a lot more than rumor. We know what she did that day and during the evening. We know the witness who saw her last, when and where that was. We know that she was alone with an unidentified vehicle when her GPS was disabled. We know that her friend was picking up her phone when she vanished. We know that her friend returned his rental car shortly after midnight and was not ending her life. We know who reported her missing, and that it was not a family member.

It is always possible to follow the logic of a theory. If Danni's friend is portrayed as responsible for her disappearance, why is he the only person to report that she was missing? I've never heard of a murderer reporting to police that his victim is missing so they should start looking for her.

Even if he is not portrayed as a murderer, but only as the person who helped her disable the GPS, why would he report her missing? Under those circumstances he is a friend who helped her skip town without paying for the car and she is not missing.

I cannot see any logical connection between the facts that we have, and Danni's friend having any role other than the only person who was alarmed by her disappearance.

It seems to be happening right now with another case. A little 4 yr old girl Maleigh Davis. Step father reported her missing and he imo is the reason for her disappearance. It doesn’t shock me for a perpetrator to raise the alarm. It’s one way to try covering for yourself I would think. Moo

 

[sandy11382]

BBM

Interesting. Could Danni have disabled her own GPS as part of a plan to disappear with her daughter?

And someone else caught wind of her plan and made sure it did not happen?

I would assume if she had any plans then probably the 3 people she spent the evening with would know. They are the only ones who might know her plans , where she was heading after the Shell station or if she planned to take Cora and get away. Just because they are not speaking to us / the media does not mean they are not speaking to police. I think they (and especially DW) hold the answer to what happened to her. Not necessarily responsible, but can shed some light on how she was feeling, if she was stressed / worried or whatever. I can't imagine she spent the whole evening with them and didn't mention anything about what's going on in her life, TT or the whole situation.

I still think it was an accident. The only thing that does not fit this scenario is the GPS deactivated.