Found Deceased AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #6

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  • #621
This may not be a popular opinion here but I think this was an accident. I believe she had a couple of drinks and got lost without her GPS/phone and accidentally ended up in the water. Occam's razor and seeing similar cases like that so frequently on here make me lean that way more so. I sincerely hope there is strong evidence if something else occurred. RIP Daniella.

That would require that her GPS was accidentally disabled while she was with another unidentified vehicle at the Shell station, and then she accidentally forgot how to get to Olie's (which was near her apartment).
 
  • #622
This may not be a popular opinion here but I think this was an accident. I believe she had a couple of drinks and got lost without her GPS/phone and accidentally ended up in the water. Occam's razor and seeing similar cases like that so frequently on here make me lean that way more so. I sincerely hope there is strong evidence if something else occurred. RIP Daniella.

I agree with @otto ,if the GPS hadn't been intentionally disabled (there's really no way to unintentionally disable one) then I'd agree with the occam's razor saying this was an accident. Also it seems like a very specific place where her car was found. I don't see her accidentally driving all that way to then accidentally drive down a boat ramp.

I think she's been there for 9 months and I think this all has to do with custody of her daughter. From what we've uncovered in the last 9+ months (which honestly isn't a whole lot), no one had anything to gain from DNV's disappearance except for someone who would get full custody of her daughter without having to fight her for it if she (DNV) was gone. That's really the only conclusion I can come up with.
The one thing that does make this theory difficult is whoever wanted her gone had no way of knowing she was going to lose her phone that night and that she was going to pull over at that Shell station to look for it.
Unless someone was just following her and waiting for the right time to strike and they happened to get lucky?
 
  • #623
I agree with @otto ,if the GPS hadn't been intentionally disabled (there's really no way to unintentionally disable one) then I'd agree with the occam's razor saying this was an accident. Also it seems like a very specific place where her car was found. I don't see her accidentally driving all that way to then accidentally drive down a boat ramp.

I think she's been there for 9 months and I think this all has to do with custody of her daughter. From what we've uncovered in the last 9+ months (which honestly isn't a whole lot), no one had anything to gain from DNV's disappearance except for someone who would get full custody of her daughter without having to fight her for it if she (DNV) was gone. That's really the only conclusion I can come up with.
The one thing that does make this theory difficult is whoever wanted her gone had no way of knowing she was going to lose her phone that night and that she was going to pull over at that Shell station to look for it.
Unless someone was just following her and waiting for the right time to strike and they happened to get lucky?

I think it was only because she forgot her phone that she was even reported missing. Excluding the phone, the assumption would be that she decided to take off with her new found independence (the car). If she hadn't been abducted at the Shell station, it would have been later that evening when she was alone in her car. I've always assumed that someone was following her that evening and saw the perfect opportunity when she was stopped at the deserted gas station.
 
  • #624
I agree with @otto ,if the GPS hadn't been intentionally disabled (there's really no way to unintentionally disable one) then I'd agree with the occam's razor saying this was an accident. Also it seems like a very specific place where her car was found. I don't see her accidentally driving all that way to then accidentally drive down a boat ramp.

I think she's been there for 9 months and I think this all has to do with custody of her daughter. From what we've uncovered in the last 9+ months (which honestly isn't a whole lot), no one had anything to gain from DNV's disappearance except for someone who would get full custody of her daughter without having to fight her for it if she (DNV) was gone. That's really the only conclusion I can come up with.
The one thing that does make this theory difficult is whoever wanted her gone had no way of knowing she was going to lose her phone that night and that she was going to pull over at that Shell station to look for it.
Unless someone was just following her and waiting for the right time to strike and they happened to get lucky?
Bingo ! Maybe she was being stalked that evening and night and the first time she was truly alone, they pounced, and Danni "was gone" ?......moo
 
  • #625
Does anyone know how far "the nephew" lives from the boat ramp?
 
  • #626
That would require that her GPS was accidentally disabled while she was with another unidentified vehicle at the Shell station, and then she accidentally forgot how to get to Olie's (which was near her apartment).
I personally don't think it was disabled, I think it malfunctioned because it hit the water. I am no expert on GPS technology but any device I have ever had or tracked had a time-lag. JMO though, and I value all the other input here of course.
 
  • #627
I personally don't think it was disabled, I think it malfunctioned because it hit the water. I am no expert on GPS technology but any device I have ever had or tracked had a time-lag. JMO though, and I value all the other input here of course.

It was reported by the car dealership that it last pinged at the Shell station, I believe it was said that it pinged every two minutes. I’ll have to try and find that again. It was a comment made by JDT in the FB group told to her by Pearl Motors.
 
  • #628
Does anyone know how far "the nephew" lives from the boat ramp?
We used to. His location was in the old threads from his kidnapping arrest. He lived with his Father and his younger brother lived in the area also.........moo
 
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I personally don't think it was disabled, I think it malfunctioned because it hit the water. I am no expert on GPS technology but any device I have ever had or tracked had a time-lag. JMO though, and I value all the other input here of course.

The GPS was disabled at the Shell station.
 
  • #632
I was just reading some early comments about cars 1, 2 and 3. Car one was Danni's friend, car two was Danni, and car three has never been identified. Danni and the unidentified vehicle were together at the Shell station and then left together. She was described as "occupying" her vehicle. During this time, her GPS stopped transmitting.

"The company where Vian purchased her car confirms the car’s gps pinged at the Dublin and then at the shell gas station on Government and I65 that night."​

July 27, 2018
Candlelight vigil for missing Mobile mom
 
  • #633
The GPS was disabled at the Shell station.

And the boat launch is 26 minutes / 17 miles along the shortest route. If she went through downtown Mobile and up back roads it could be a considerably longer drive. What happened to the GPS that whole time?

The very first day I read about this case, before the information about the GPS and Shell Station was released, I thought she accidentally went off one of the industrial docks in downtown Mobile into the Mobile River or Mobile Bay. I could see her getting disoriented and within minutes of leaving the Shell entering the water. There's a LOT of water here. Why go all the way up to a tiny residential park away from your friends and family? Why was she up there in the first place?

Traveling 25 minutes north east, away from her apartment, away from her friends' homes, away from her usual hang-outs to a tiny creek in a residential neighborhood does not seem reasonable at all. Everyone who I've spoken to who lives in Mobile has said this is a very out of the way small neighborhood park. You would never go there unless you lived near there and intentionally sought it out. The google maps shows a big house RIGHT THERE, you're practically in their backyard. If she went up I-65 by accident and turned off at this exit, she drove right past Saraland Blvd (Route 43) which is a main and populated street and would have been a reasonable street to turn on and drive down to get back down to her neighborhood near Ollie's and Dublin's.
 
  • #634
And the boat launch is 26 minutes / 17 miles along the shortest route. If she went through downtown Mobile and up back roads it could be a considerably longer drive. What happened to the GPS that whole time?

The very first day I read about this case, before the information about the GPS and Shell Station was released, I thought she accidentally went off one of the industrial docks in downtown Mobile into the Mobile River or Mobile Bay. I could see her getting disoriented and within minutes of leaving the Shell entering the water. There's a LOT of water here. Why go all the way up to a tiny residential park away from your friends and family? Why was she up there in the first place?

Traveling 25 minutes north east, away from her apartment, away from her friends' homes, away from her usual hang-outs to a tiny creek in a residential neighborhood does not seem reasonable at all. Everyone who I've spoken to who lives in Mobile has said this is a very out of the way small neighborhood park. You would never go there unless you lived near there and intentionally sought it out. The google maps shows a big house RIGHT THERE, you're practically in their backyard. If she went up I-65 by accident and turned off at this exit, she drove right past Saraland Blvd (Route 43) which is a main and populated street and would have been a reasonable street to turn on and drive down to get back down to her neighborhood near Ollie's and Dublin's.

True, regarding early speculation that she accidentally drove into the water, but early information was also that she was three sheets to the wind, doing a drug deal with partiers at the Shell station, and then partying some more. Over time it became clear that none of this was actually true.

It always made sense that the best place to hide the car is in the water, but there were too many possibilities to narrow it down.
 
  • #635
True, regarding early speculation that she accidentally drove into the water, but early information was also that she was three sheets to the wind, doing a drug deal with partiers at the Shell station, and then partying some more. Over time it became clear that none of this was actually true.

It always made sense that the best place to hide the car is in the water, but there were too many possibilities to narrow it down.

The water was one of the first places that came up in the beginning and like you said there were just too many areas to even begin a search, especially since it was never released what direction she went after leaving the Shell Station. Even if we had known a direction I would have never guessed that her car would be 17 miles away in Saraland.

I am still under the premise that LE may know a lot more than they have ever released, including possible leads that DW may have given them.

We also have another child (father unknown) to also consider in this.

I have to say that this is by far one of the strangest cases I have ever seen, so many twists, turns and shady characters that it is hard to even begin to guess what happened to Daniella that night. I just hope I am right that LE at least has something to work with and is able to find out who is responsible.
 
  • #636
Not sure if this has been shared.

Daniellas friend speaks out:

"I don't think Danniella drove her car 20 some odd miles north of Mobile and drove into a boat launch," she said. "She loves Cora and never would have done that it's not plausible."

Haden says at this point there are more questions than answers.

"Even though it does bring some closure, it just kind of brings up this whole other box of what if's and how’s and who’s," she said.

She says now that Danniella is possibly home, it's not over.

"We are content with knowing what happened has happened and now we just need to find who did it," Haden said. "The car's been found so it'll only be a matter of time before the truth does come out."

"This isn't the outcome any of us wanted" Danniella's friend reacts to new development
 
  • #637
Also residents of the Bayou Sara speak out.

(If this has been shared, my apologies, just thought it was pertinent to the recent posts)

"There are so many unanswered questions to this as to when did this come and how," said Kim Stracener. "There's just no way it's been there for 9 months. As much boat traffic, fishing and swimming that goes on, it was just a surprise to everyone."


Stracener says they never noticed anything out of the ordinary.


"For a car to skid through you would have tire tracks or skid marks. Not been any of that," she said.


Stracener says the community feels like something isn't adding up.


"When they brought it out, the white license plate, the crisp and clean, looked like it hadn't been here long," said Stracener. "Almost like the car was just brought here recently."

Residents shocked after missing Mobile mother's car, human remains found in Bayou Sara
 
  • #638
I just don't think that boat launch is one that someone would "accidentally" happen upon. Even if she had wound up in Saraland on accident, there are plenty of exits along the way she could have used to turn around on. I know that at this point anything is possible, but IMO if she drove herself to that specific launch it was intentional. I just don't think she happened upon a random boat launch, that you travel through neighborhoods to get to, and accidentally drove off in the water. I just rank that really low on the possibility list.

This could be absolutely unrelated, but in looking for any updates I stumbled across an update from Cassie Fambro stating there was a heavy police presence at Summer Chase Apartments in Mobile. These apartments are located near Medal of Honor Park, which if I recall correctly was a place that DNV liked to take CT.
 
  • #639
I was just reading some early comments about cars 1, 2 and 3. Car one was Danni's friend, car two was Danni, and car three has never been identified. Danni and the unidentified vehicle were together at the Shell station and then left together. She was described as "occupying" her vehicle. During this time, her GPS stopped transmitting.

"The company where Vian purchased her car confirms the car’s gps pinged at the Dublin and then at the shell gas station on Government and I65 that night."​

July 27, 2018
Candlelight vigil for missing Mobile mom

Also something to note- car 1 and car 3 could be the same car. The surveillance video isn’t great quality and those who viewed it (LE) have said its possible car 1 left and turned around and pulled back in as “car 3”
 
  • #640
What was the name of Danni’s apartment complex? Didn’t she live right there?
 
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