Found Deceased AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #6

[imstilla.grandma]

I’m sure someone will let me know if this is not allowed and I’ll delete it...pay attention to the hashtag

Stuckphoneinbag#
Is that what you’re referring to?

 

[otto]

Case was turned over to the Homicide unit on 7/25/18–the same day ex boyfriend was released from Metro. From what I have read according to JDT, they let him out for a week before sending him to Rehab to spend time with CT.

I’m starting to think there was more than one person in one of the vehicles. DW was already lying to RC about going to get/had the phone while he was on CCTV at Shell. That’s why I think the phone was expected to be missing in this case. Another reason is this photo on ****social media and the hashtag

Edit-picture deleted. I’m not sure this is allowed

BBM
Danni left her phone at the Dublin. It was found by a stranger and given to staff. Danni's friend returned to the Dublin to retrieve the phone and received it from staff. He did not have her phone when he was at the Shell station.

 

[Bryant_Denny]

I can only speculate this is about how her phone went missing or where they hid it

 

[otto]

Great insight! For some reason I want to think she wasn’t alive at the time the vehicle entered the water. I am not sure if I can post what I stumbled upon last night, but it was quite disturbing to say the least. Some of you may already have knowledge and it may have been posted in a previous thread. MOO is these drawings tell a story. Surely LE has looked into them further.

Who is the artist?

 

[Mauig’ma]

BBM
Danni left her phone at the Dublin. It was found by a stranger and given to staff. Danni's friend returned to the Dublin to retrieve the phone and received it from staff. He did not have her phone when he was at the Shell station.

I must have missed the link stating this as fact. Would you please be so kind to provide so I can see it. Tyia

 

[otto]

I am also surprised JDT said her reason for getting everything moved out early on was because she knew DNV didn’t leave on her own and wouldn’t be back anytime soon—if she did come back she wouldn’t want to stay in the apartment alone, she would want to be with them (“in-laws”)

That doesn't make much sense. Danni was a 25 year old woman who had a home, a job, friends and a life. Why would she give that up and live under the rules of an ex-boyfriend's parents?

At the time that Danni's apartment was cleared out, it looked like her ex-boyfriend was a bit too eager to dismantle her life and dispose of her possessions. There was a finality about it that betrayed a knowledge that she would never return.

 

[Bryant_Denny]

BBM
Danni left her phone at the Dublin. It was found by a stranger and given to staff. Danni's friend returned to the Dublin to retrieve the phone and received it from staff. He did not have her phone when he was at the Shell station.

I agree, he did not have it with him at that time. However, according to timelines at 11:22pm there was contact made from him to RC saying he has DNV phone since she didn’t show up at Dublin’s and he is on the way to Ollie’s. If that 2nd car is his, it was still on site at Shell until 11:24pm. Timelines may be incorrect, it’s just odd. Maybe this is one of the conflicting stories?

 

[otto]

I must have missed the link stating this as fact. Would you please be so kind to provide so I can see it. Tyia

That information is from the beginning of this discussion. I don't know where that information is anymore.

Are you questioning whether her friend retrieved her phone from the Dublin?

 

[otto]

I agree, he did not have it with him at that time. However, according to timelines at 11:22pm there was contact made from him to RC saying he has DNV phone since she didn’t show up at Dublin’s and he is on the way to Ollie’s. If that 2nd car is his, it was still on site at Shell until 11:24pm. Timelines may be incorrect, it’s just odd. Maybe this is one of the conflicting stories?

According to Shell CCTV timestamp, Danni's friend left the Shell station at 11:08. I don't know anything about who he phoned afterward.

 

[Bryant_Denny]

That doesn't make much sense. Danni was a 25 year old woman who had a home, a job, friends and a life. Why would she give that up and live under the rules of an ex-boyfriend's parents?

At the time that Danni's apartment was cleared out, it looked like her ex-boyfriend was a bit too eager to dismantle her life and dispose of her possessions. There was a finality about it that betrayed a knowledge that she would never return.

I couldn't agree more!

 

[Mauig’ma]

That information is from the beginning of this discussion. I don't know where that information is anymore.

Are you questioning whether her friend retrieved her phone from the Dublin?

I am. Idk who or when DV phone was retrieved. There’s been hearsay from various people involved. I guess I’m wanting to see LE stating info about this is all. I know it’s been discussed in previous threads. Wondering if we have le statements to back it up so we know for sure.

 

[Bryant_Denny]

According to Shell CCTV timestamp, Danni's friend left the Shell station at 11:08. I don't know anything about who he phoned afterward.

I was under the assumption it was the same vehicle. They have a voicemail at 11:11pm and 11:12pm of a male and female that seem to be lookingfor something-presumably him and DNV looking for her phone in the car

 

[otto]

I was under the assumption it was the same vehicle. They have a voicemail at 11:11pm and 11:12pm of a male and female that seem to be lookingfor something-presumably him and DNV looking for her phone in the car

Danni and her friend were together at the Shell station until 11:07 according to CCTV timestamp.

Danni's friend placed calls to Danni's phone while they were at the Shell station. Those calls have a digital timestamp.

This is not the first time where CCTV timestamp is not the same as digital timestamp.

 

[theides]

I was under the assumption it was the same vehicle. They have a voicemail at 11:11pm and 11:12pm of a male and female that seem to be lookingfor something-presumably him and DNV looking for her phone in the car

Danni and her friend were together at the Shell station until 11:07 according to CCTV timestamp.

Danni's friend placed calls to Danni's phone while they were at the Shell station. Those calls have a digital timestamp.

This is not the first time where CCTV timestamp is not the same as digital timestamp.

We just don't know that the CCTV timestamps are wrong though. We can't rule out the possibility that they are correct because the times still fit with certain scenarios. If they are right, and align with the voicemails, would that potentially validate that Car 1 and 3 are the same? Yes. I doubt that the CCTV at the gas station is pulled infrequently due to the crime rate, and it is possible an employee would know the discrepancy and would have told NBC that. But on the same note, yes, it is possibly not correct and whoever leaked the footage did not realize, or even that we were told a fake voicemail time. All are possible. We cannot allow any sort of confirmation bias to squash discussion. It's worth it for Danni to explore everything.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Who is the artist?

The ex TT

 

[otto]

We just don't know that the CCTV timestamps are wrong though. We can't rule out the possibility that they are correct because the times still fit with certain scenarios. If they are right, and align with the voicemails, would that potentially validate that Car 1 and 3 are the same? Yes. I doubt that the CCTV at the gas station is pulled infrequently due to the crime rate, and it is possible an employee would know the discrepancy and would have told NBC that. But on the same note, yes, it is possibly not correct and whoever leaked the footage did not realize, or even that we were told a fake voicemail time. All are possible. We cannot allow any sort of confirmation bias to squash discussion. It's worth it for Danni to explore everything.

Every discussion I've followed here where there is CCTV footage from a business, there is a discrepancy between the CCTV timestamp and real time.

Furthermore, the 11:11 and 11:12 cell call times work perfectly with Danni and her friend being at the Shell station for 2 minutes. What it tells us is that the CCTV timestamp is 5 or 6 minutes slow.

If the calls were 3 or more minutes apart, then we would know that Danni's friend was at the Shell station after 11:08 (CCTV timestamp). When the 2 calls are one minute apart and CCTV shows them together for two minutes, I'm going to assume that there's a timestamp difference.

 

[theides]

Every discussion I've followed here where there is CCTV footage from a business, there is a discrepancy between the CCTV timestamp and real time.

Every rule can have exceptions.

Furthermore, the 11:11 and 11:12 cell call times work perfectly with Danni and her friend being at the Shell station for 2 minutes. What it tells us is that the CCTV timestamp is 5 or 6 minutes slow.

It also works perfectly with Car 1 returning and there only being 2 cars. Who knows if they immediately started calling it? I would, sure, but that doesn't mean that's what they did.

If the calls were 3 or more minutes apart, then we would know that Danni's friend was at the Shell station after 11:08 (CCTV timestamp). When the 2 calls are one minute apart and CCTV shows them together for two minutes, I'm going to assume that there's a timestamp difference.

It could also indicate that the friend pulled out and returned when they noticed DNV hadn't pulled out after them, and the timestamps are all correct. I'm not saying it's not possible the CCTV timestamps are off. They very well could be, and what you are saying could exactly be the case.

I, personally, don't want to settle on a specific scenario with so many unknown variables. We have the NBC report, we have the comments from the reporter from the Lagniappe, and we have hearsay. That's it. I don't think anything certain can be pulled out of that, but I will agree to disagree.

 

[otto]

Every rule can have exceptions.

It also works perfectly with Car 1 returning and there only being 2 cars. Who knows if they immediately started calling it? I would, sure, but that doesn't mean that's what they did.

It could also indicate that the friend pulled out and returned when they noticed DNV hadn't pulled out after them, and the timestamps are all correct. I'm not saying it's not possible the CCTV timestamps are off. They very well could be, and what you are saying could exactly be the case.

I, personally, don't want to settle on a specific scenario with so many unknown variables. We have the NBC report, we have the comments from the reporter from the Lagniappe, and we have hearsay. That's it. I don't think anything certain can be pulled out of that, but I will agree to disagree.

What I see are two people at the Shell station for 2 minutes (CCTV footage), and 2 phone calls placed from one person's phone to the other person's phone one minute apart (call history). From my perspective, that does not mean that these two people were together at the Shell station for 3 or 16 minutes.

 

[theides]

What I see are two people at the Shell station for 2 minutes (CCTV footage), and 2 phone calls placed from one person's phone to the other person's phone one minute apart (call history). From my perspective, that does not mean that these two people were together at the Shell station for 3 or 16 minutes.

And that's fair. From my perspective, I trust nothing and nobody but LE at this point (LE who have said nearly nothing) and am taking everything else with a grain of salt and questioning it all. Like, who supplied the call history? What is the source? Who said "this occurred at this time and that occurred at that time" as far as the voicemails, and did they have motive to lie? Did they have motive to tell the truth? Is there an actual screenshot of the times the calls were made? How long did the phone ring before it went to voicemail? How long is each voicemail exactly? Why didn't they hang up when the call went to voicemail - that's a period of time it would no longer be ringing? When I am looking for my phone and use my husband's to call it, even while digging around couch cushions, I hang up as soon as the voicemail comes on so that I can call it again.

 

[Bryant_Denny]

And that's fair. From my perspective, I trust nothing and nobody but LE at this point (LE who have said nearly nothing) and am taking everything else with a grain of salt and questioning it all. Like, who supplied the call history? What is the source? Who said "this occurred at this time and that occurred at that time" as far as the voicemails, and did they have motive to lie? Did they have motive to tell the truth? Is there an actual screenshot of the times the calls were made? How long did the phone ring before it went to voicemail? How long is each voicemail exactly? Why didn't they hang up when the call went to voicemail - that's a period of time it would no longer be ringing? When I am looking for my phone and use my husband's to call it, even while digging around couch cushions, I hang up as soon as the voicemail comes on so that I can call it again.

You are more than likely sober when doing that? I only assume they were not because they had been at the bars since 6:30pm and DNV mentioned in a txt she was drinking.
When I call my phone from someone else’s looking for it, after I hear the first ring on the line I take the phone from my ear so I can listen for the vibration..my phone is always on vibrate. Maybe hers was too, in a crowed bar I can see having your phone set to vibrate because you wouldn’t hear any notifications anyways.