AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018

[Deleted member 227095]

Does anyone know how the flyer distribution is going?

Thanks in advance,

ETA: The car wash fundraiser was a good idea. It gets Danniella's information out and helps to fund costs of flyers and missing posters.

Danniella Vian car wash fundraiser happening Sunday in Mobile

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

I'm not really adding much to the conversation, but I've felt for quite some time that LE knows what happened and is just getting their ducks in a row. They took down the video almost immediately after releasing it, there were no real pleas for the public's help, etc. Sadly, based on their lack of urgency, I don't think it's going to end well. Just my opinion, etc.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I'm not really adding much to the conversation, but I've felt for quite some time that LE knows what happened and is just getting their ducks in a row. They took down the video almost immediately after releasing it, there were no real pleas for the public's help, etc. Sadly, based on their lack of urgency, I don't think it's going to end well. Just my opinion, etc.

And that just about sums it up. I agree with your opinion.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I don’t want to give up hope as I do still believe in miracles.
The thought that LE is waiting to lock in justice with the recovery of her body as the final piece looms in my mind.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

Dear Reacher,

I agree that many times when there is no news from the police that means that they are working hard in the background. Hopefully answers are soon.

Hoping and praying that this young woman is found safe and sound.

I would bet that everyone in this thread who has been trying to figure out what happend to DV would echo your heartfelt thoughts @zencompass! With the storm going on in the area I am not sure how much is being done on the case now but hopefully the homicide detectives will return to the case soon. There was another homicide in Mobile today (someone shot dead in the head on the street in broad daylight) so that looked to be consuming resources of the department this past afternon.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

After reading and re-reading, this biggest missing piece is who was at the gas station.. something that LE has made sure we don’t find out.

Has the idea that somehow TT was one of the cars at the gas station been brought up? That could be a reason for the family keeping tight lipped about “friend” who has been cleared...

As far as I’ve looked online, and read in this thread, there has been zero proof of TT being in jail, like JDT has said on Facebook.
Until we see proof of him being in jail, I think he should be looked at.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

After reading and re-reading, this biggest missing piece is who was at the gas station.. something that LE has made sure we don’t find out.

Has the idea that somehow TT was one of the cars at the gas station been brought up? That could be a reason for the family keeping tight lipped about “friend” who has been cleared...

As far as I’ve looked online, and read in this thread, there has been zero proof of TT being in jail, like JDT has said on Facebook.
Until we see proof of him being in jail, I think he should be looked at.

Double think with you. Btw, love your username

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

After reading and re-reading, this biggest missing piece is who was at the gas station.. something that LE has made sure we don’t find out.

Has the idea that somehow TT was one of the cars at the gas station been brought up? That could be a reason for the family keeping tight lipped about “friend” who has been cleared...

As far as I’ve looked online, and read in this thread, there has been zero proof of TT being in jail, like JDT has said on Facebook.
Until we see proof of him being in jail, I think he should be looked at.

Piggy-backing off my own post, it has been brought up that they could be trying to protect a military member.. it looks like TT might be military, or prior military based off a Facebook profile I found

Tyler Thomas

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Would love to know what you’ve found! I am so invested in finding this girl

Me too. I came over from Mollie's thread and like others was shocked at the difference in coverage. I looked at SM and News articles and I just can help but think something is goofy here. I am not a psychic or anything but just something is giving me a odd feeling. Nothing particular, just one of those things I cannot place my finger on.
I wonder how Alethea made out with her tweets. I am planning on doing the same.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

After reading and re-reading, this biggest missing piece is who was at the gas station.. something that LE has made sure we don’t find out.

Has the idea that somehow TT was one of the cars at the gas station been brought up? That could be a reason for the family keeping tight lipped about “friend” who has been cleared...

As far as I’ve looked online, and read in this thread, there has been zero proof of TT being in jail, like JDT has said on Facebook.
Until we see proof of him being in jail, I think he should be looked at.

Totally agree. I checked mobile county jail and didn’t see him listed but he was supposedly in jail someplace for 5 days.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

Me too. I came over from Mollie's thread and like others was shocked at the difference in coverage. I looked at SM and News articles and I just can help but think something is goofy here. I am not a psychic or anything but just something is giving me a odd feeling. Nothing particular, just one of those things I cannot place my finger on.
I wonder how Alethea made out with her tweets. I am planning on doing the same.

Me too. I came over from Mollie's thread and like others was shocked at the difference in coverage. I looked at SM and News articles and I just can help but think something is goofy here. I am not a psychic or anything but just something is giving me a odd feeling. Nothing particular, just one of those things I cannot place my finger on.
I wonder how Alethea made out with her tweets. I am planning on doing the same.

Little makes sense here. It’s like the wizard of oz and we are waiting to see who is behind the curtain. Based on time passed dv is sadly gone or far away. Many ships leave the port every day so perhaps she was put on one or dumped in a storm ditch or pitched in the bay? Maybe she is being held someplace? We dont know much of anything.

LE has the cctv footage and knows who is involved but has done nothing. I think one of the very early posters who said that Mobile police work missing persons cases by waiting for the dead bodies to show up was sadly correct as that is how this case has been managed. Many people have gone missing in mobile al and the police oddly never seem able to find them.

I try to stay optimistic but in this case I don’t see any reason for optimism as apparently the police cannot even find the car let alone Dv. The friends with her that night have never come forward and they remain in the shadows along with most of the family.

Many dramatic scenarios can probably be created for this case but most realistically this could simply be a group of friends partying hard and something happened or it was a car jacking and abduction. The lack of activity from le is baffling as the incident occurred in an area with lots of security cameras. So the press conference where the police chief said they are out of leads is frankly unbelievable. Further it is likely that if it was just a matter of on Star not being activated then le could have paid to activate the service assuming of course that the gps wasn’t physically dismantled.

I feel for the young mother whose daughter is too young to understand what is going on but I am also saddened that this young woman didn’t have people in her life that cared enough or have the personal character to report her missing sooner or made sure she made it home safely after a night of partying. I think she is gone and that makes me sad. I hope I’m wrong but it doesn’t look like the police will do anything until they find a body.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

After reading and re-reading, this biggest missing piece is who was at the gas station.. something that LE has made sure we don’t find out.

Has the idea that somehow TT was one of the cars at the gas station been brought up? That could be a reason for the family keeping tight lipped about “friend” who has been cleared...

As far as I’ve looked online, and read in this thread, there has been zero proof of TT being in jail, like JDT has said on Facebook.
Until we see proof of him being in jail, I think he should be looked at.

TT as a character has been absent from this case. DV is supposedly “married” to this person and no word, not one. No proof of marriage either from LE but DV lists her FB profile as single as does TT. TT family refers to DV as DIL but no
proof via MSM that this is anything other than a fabrication. I wonder why someone would say someone is married if they are not? Could it be some common law marriage? We don’t know but it’s another unexplained detail in this young woman’s life. Is TT somehow involved in this sad situation? Why is there no proof that he was in jail? Was he working with police in some way and things went south and DV somehow has gone missing as a result? The media has done a poor job of telling us much about our poor victim and who she was and they have done an even worse job telling us about the friends and family that surrounded her and did nothing. I hope DV is found and justice is served but I sadly don’t believe the local mobile al police will solve this case without divine intervention. If the FBI or state bureau were involved I might have some confidence but the local force seems to be a shambles operation in a very high crime city.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

I’m new-ish here so.. forgive me if this isn’t even allowed? Has anybody reached out to JDT or TT?

 

[MimosaMornings]

Danniella did not have a credit card or debit/ATM card. Yet she was working and living in her own place (is it an apt or living with a friend). Her phone is a pay as you go? Or is it on JTs family plan?
And how did this “mystery friend” know JT and have her contact information? Sounds hinky.
It was mentioned up thread that she came from a military family but I have not seen any mention of Danniella’s father?

 

[DakotaMayi]

Danniella did not have a credit card or debit/ATM card. Yet she was working and living in her own place (is it an apt or living with a friend). Her phone is a pay as you go? Or is it on JTs family plan?
And how did this “mystery friend” know JT and have her contact information? Sounds hinky.
It was mentioned up thread that she came from a military family but I have not seen any mention of Danniella’s father?

Also, did she buy that car in full? Seems odd for a 24 year old to be able to do, the car was not old. She must have had a bank account in order to have finance on the car? You can't do anything these days without a bank account.

What was the statement regarding her not having an ATM card?... Was it just "Oh she usually only uses cash" or was it "She does not have a bank account and only has cash"? Because those are two different things imo. She might have a bank account but only uses cash on a night out or whatever as opposed to not having one at all.

I am just going on... moving on...

 

[Vail]

I spoke with someone who was at the car wash fundraiser, and apparently The First 48 interviewed some folks that were there, and it will be part of an episode to be released later. They don't usually cover missing person cases, do they? I don't think I've ever seen an episode about one.

Now I'm not surprised in the least there is so little in the media. I believe they have evidence to suggest she is deceased which is why focus has been on warrants and detective work vs public searches. Still confused why there is no BOLO on the car, but if they think she was carjacked that won't help much now.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[Deleted member 227095]

Me too. I came over from Mollie's thread and like others was shocked at the difference in coverage. I looked at SM and News articles and I just can help but think something is goofy here. I am not a psychic or anything but just something is giving me a odd feeling. Nothing particular, just one of those things I cannot place my finger on.
I wonder how Alethea made out with her tweets. I am planning on doing the same.

I think the big difference in the MT case vs DV case is resources. In the MT case the Sheriff and family immediately called in the Iowa Bureau and then the FBI showed up.

In this case there was a missing person on Tuesday and the 'in law family' didn't file a report until Friday by all accounts. So, most likely nothing was done at the earliest until Monday by LE (just a guess) when the file hit the desk of someone in LE. In this case it didn't get bumped to Homicide for awhile and most likely nothing was done to gather up CCTV along the route in the interim. Not all systems archive tape so who knows what was available to LE by the time the case settled with a detective and they started doing something. Assuming they had to get warrants that would mean they were trying to track down CCTV nearly 2 weeks after the disappearance.

No wonder the Chief seemed out of leads and low energy IMO as the poor detective that got the file had next to nothing to go on other than Shell station footage. When the Chief spoke at the PC he seemed out of leads and out of ideas and was asking the public to help but didn't supply any new information as to direction and other cars in the party train group. The PC with the Chief seemed to be a sham as it had none of the detail that we are so used to with a real missing persons case and there was zero sense of urgency.

So, maybe this isn't a 'real' missing persons case? If not, what is it? Car jack? Drug Buy gone Bad and Violent? Abduction? Watch the PC to get a sense of what seemed to be going on at the time in LE and IMO it wasn't much. This could have been a ruse by LE but for what reason?

Was there a BOLO on the car? We don't know. Was there a BOLO for DV? Again we don't know. Did DV meet the criteria for Amber Alert? Maybe, but we don't know. Did LE find and interview all the people on the party train ride that night? We don't know. On FB 'MIL' stated that the person that turned out of the Shell station in front of DV in order to go back to Dublin's to look for the phone had been interviewed by police but wasn't a suspect or some similar language. Did DV really lose her phone or was it stolen from her? We don't know. I believe it would be unlikely for LE to share information about anyone at such an early stage of the investigation so I really wonder why the 'MIL' said what she did about the person on FB. I wonder if the 'family' is afraid of any of the people on the party train ride and so are complicit in keeping their names and faces out of the spotlight. Most 'family' would be shining a light on the people who were the last to see their loved one hoping for some bit of information that might find their loved one. Not in this case. The party train people have vaporized and LE let it happen because they knew who they were. Why? Are any of these people affiliated with LE or the military? We don't know.

So far, MSM hasn't tracked down or interviewed or NAMED any of the people on the party train ride who were the last people to see DV alive. Is this suspicious? Absolutely. The press decison to pull the Shell station footage is also questionable as we are all sitting here so many days later with no info, no arrest and no way for the public to help find DV. Why won't the station that pulled the tape put the tape back up and let the public help? As far as I am concerned that station is now just as responsible as LE for NOT FINDING DV as they withheld key evidence that perhaps would allow someone from the public to provide critical information to locate DV! This would make an interesting lawsuit IMO! Pro Bono atty's are you out there to take case this on? The station took the tape off the internet most likely believing an arrest or some action was imminent. So far there has been nothing from LE. What is the argument to continue to withhold the tape? Why isn't the family out arguing publicly with the station that pulled the tape to put it back on the air and internet? This is just another mystery.

LE has released no names of POI or Suspects? No update on whether DV car was ever found and why GPS wasn't working. Why wasn't FBI engaged to reactivate GPS and find car and DV? We don't know. No update on which direction DV was heading as she left the Shell station. What is the LE theory as to what happened so that maybe the public can assist in this case? We don't know. Why did the local station agree to pull the Shell station CCTV when that information could possibly have allowed the public to have enough information to find DV? We don't know.

This case is odd because everyone seems to just be going through the motions. Its as if the people involved know what happend but aren't sharing it and are just waiting for DV to show up alive or in a body bag. From the beginning its felt like as sleuthers we were in the twilight zone with nothing to grasp on to and nobody in the immediate family/friends circle that appears credible or believable. TT and Mom have been absent from the process and a 'MIL' who appears to have custody of DV child (although we have zero information on the legality of the custody arrangement) is leading the charge to locate DV because in her words, "...she doesn't want her granddaughter to have to look for her mother years from now...". DV allegedly wasn't being searched for because she was loved and missed by these 'in law people' but rather only because of her daughter. DV by all accounts is estranged from most of her birth family and doesn't appear close to the 'in law' family in Mobile. The custody situation must have been difficult for all involved. I can't say with any of the MSM reporting that any of us know much if anything about DV other than she worked hard and long hours in two restaurants to afford to buy her car? Did she go to school? Did she ever go to school? What happened along her life journey that might have derailed her and left her in Mobile surrounded by people that don't seem to have her best interests at heart? We sadly don't know much about who DV is/was? I am surprised that the press or the 'family' has done zero to humanize DV and make her a real and relatable human being?

Mobile being a port city has an interesting and diverse crime profile and has significant violent crime for a city its size which has been trending upward in recent years. But I'm not sure whatever resources the local LE had to work with were deployed to find DV and this makes me angry. Sadly my guess is that DV is no longer with us as so much time has passed since her disappearance. But what makes me sadder is that her poor young daughter who doesn't even have the ability at age 4 to completely process what has happened will never know what happened to her mom due to inaction and ineptitude by the Mobile PD. JMO BTW!

 

[Suglo]

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Sounds like she really wanted to get her child C*** back. Most of those goals had to do with being a better mother to her.