AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018

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Danniella Vian car wash fundraiser happening Sunday in Mobile
Car wash donations alone reached a total of $2,356.27. That amount is before Hurricane Grill and Wings donated a portion of their sales.
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  • #462
Yeah, I'm not really sure why the fact it wasn't a private sale would change things. People can be apart of a business and still be creepy. Not that I believe that is an option here.

I do think it’s a possibility that LE needs to check out. Some employees of that car lot would know both how to track her and how to disable the GPS.

Right now, I'm going with the "friend." The friend who appears to not being looking for her.
We know the friend didn’t look for her that night and hasn’t come out to the press but do we know that he’s not helping the MIL now?

I wouldn’t be surprised if a guy her age who had been drinking waited for her to show back up at Dublin’s, assumed she blew him off or something when she didn’t, then decided to continue the party and catch up with her/give the phone back the next day.

Maybe he doesn’t want to come out to the press because he realizes now that not returning to the Shell to look for her was a crappy thing to do and he’s embarrassed. Or he’s married. Or not here legally. Or underage—cops would definitely want to protect a minor, even if he had been using a fake ID to drink.

So I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for these things....

But the fact that he’s the last person to see her is more than enough to make him a suspect IMO.
 
  • #463
I do think it’s a possibility that LE needs to check out. Some employees of that car lot would know both how to track her and how to disable the GPS.


We know the friend didn’t look for her that night and hasn’t come out to the press but do we know that he’s not helping the MIL now?

I wouldn’t be surprised if a guy her age who had been drinking waited for her to show back up at Dublin’s, assumed she blew him off or something when she didn’t, then decided to continue the party and catch up with her/give the phone back the next day.

Maybe he doesn’t want to come out to the press because he realizes now that not returning to the Shell to look for her was a crappy thing to do and he’s embarrassed. Or he’s married. Or not here legally. Or underage—cops would definitely want to protect a minor, even if he had been using a fake ID to drink.

So I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for these things....

But the fact that he’s the last person to see her is more than enough to make him a suspect IMO.
Totally agree. But I won't give someone the benefit of the doubt that doesn't watch out for a friend, especially if they had been drinking. Had she been drinking or taking drugs? How much driving experience did she have at night? Did she know the neighborhood? Could it be possible that the 'friend' didn't go back to Dublin Pub and just happened to have the phone the entire time? We don't know because no details to confirm the gps path of the phone have been provided by LE. Could she have been so impaired that she shouldn't have been driving and somehow managed to drive off a bridge? We don't know. The 'friend' could be helping the MIL. But again we don't know. But it seems suspicious that nobody involved will name the 'friend' including LE and the MIL.

Whats sad is that DV looked like she had goals and was working to get her life on track and take care of her daughter. Her environment and the people around her most likely stood in the way of her changing her life. What about if one of these people in her life tried to hook her back into the past behaviors and they went out partying and something bad happened and she couldn't be saved? I keep posting because I'm baffled. The phone story makes little sense and we really don't know what happened at the Shell Station. LE appear stuck and unmotivated for whatever reason. For all we know DV could have gone on a drinking or drug bender for all this time supported by so called 'friends' and just hasn't been seen. We don't know.
 
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If she was with an active military person perhaps.

Sorry, I'm all over the place and slow, but I am not sure I am following?
 
  • #466
Hi, jump right in with ideas as I've just been thinking and typing away here debating possibilities etc. and would love your POV! I don't see voluntary missing here as she probably didn't have the cash to just disappear as she just spent all her money on a car. So, that leaves involuntary missing. I am scratching my head at the story of the missing phone and the 'friend' leaving the gas station and never realizing that he wasn't being followed and THEN never checking to see what happened to DV. Really? What kind of friend does this? LE doesn't name this person, family won't name this person and press won't/can't name this person? Mmmm. Why will nobody name this person? Why won't the family even name this person unless they are afraid or told by LE not to do so? I also thought it odd that MIL made the specific point of saying 'friend' was interviewed and cleared by LE and then she won't say anything else about them when asked by press? My personal guess is that this 'friend' is the 'trouble agent' in this case and is somebody nobody wants to mess with for whatever reason.

RS&BBM

Yes, this is where I am stuck and struggling too @JoJoJo
 
  • #467
Look at who is leading the finding DV case? MIL. Not the husband. Not the 'friend' that ditched her to go back to Dublin pub. Not her mom who has remained in NC. No other family seems present. She seems to have some friends that pitched in at the recent car wash but everything seems driven by the MIL.

RSBM.

Yes, it's completely odd, isn't it?... I know for sure that if one of my friends was missing I would be out there, making a scene, to get them home... if I was the the last person to see my friend and it went down like this, I would feel so much guilt... it seems like this person is more interested in saving themselves.
 
  • #468
I do think it’s a possibility that LE needs to check out. Some employees of that car lot would know both how to track her and how to disable the GPS.


We know the friend didn’t look for her that night and hasn’t come out to the press but do we know that he’s not helping the MIL now?

I wouldn’t be surprised if a guy her age who had been drinking waited for her to show back up at Dublin’s, assumed she blew him off or something when she didn’t, then decided to continue the party and catch up with her/give the phone back the next day.

Maybe he doesn’t want to come out to the press because he realizes now that not returning to the Shell to look for her was a crappy thing to do and he’s embarrassed. Or he’s married. Or not here legally. Or underage—cops would definitely want to protect a minor, even if he had been using a fake ID to drink.

So I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for these things....

But the fact that he’s the last person to see her is more than enough to make him a suspect IMO.

I agree and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt too, when we know these things for sure. Right now, based on what we can see, I'm a little skeptical.
 
  • #469
Lets be honest, the friend can't win, we feel negatively towards him because he won't come forward, he won't speak out to help find Daniella and so, we feel like he has something to hide. But, if he came forward, there would be those that would call him out for his actions that night. Actions that caused Daniella to disappear. So, I get it, and I don't get it.
 
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Oh my goodness what an unusual case I really hope this young lady is safe and well . I may be shot down in flames for this. I have only seen a couple of posts infer that she may be missing voluntarily.

I have to say the first thing that crossed my mind was the three things that could track the location of a person.
  • Mobile Phone (Left behind mislaid )
  • Car GPS (Disabled at some time after shell)
  • No Credit Card ( Deals in cash only)
I am not sure if I can post the following so please remove if inappropriate.

I have seen mention of Dauphin Street on FB which was reported as the cars last GPS ping near the shipping containers.

I must admit if I wanted to vanish the last thing I would take with me is my mobile or anything that could electronically track my where abouts.

I also notice the PD missing report refers to a 2017 Car not 2014 which one is correct? Not that I know what difference it makes other than value of said car.

I sincerely hope she is ok.

KR
Reacher
Great information. The mention of ping near Dauphin Street is interesting. Where did you see that mentioned? That could mean that is where they headed after Shell Station and maybe that is where things happened? Is the link postable?
 
  • #471
Lets be honest, the friend can't win, we feel negatively towards him because he won't come forward, he won't speak out to help find Daniella and so, we feel like he has something to hide. But, if he came forward, there would be those that would call him out for his actions that night. Actions that caused Daniella to disappear. So, I get it, and I don't get it.
I hear you on the damned if you do damned if you don't theory for the friend. I guess my issue is that if someones life is at stake then it makes sense to take the heat that comes from being called out and do what you can to help rather than hiding. I just believe IMOO that hiding isn't helping find DV and it just makes the 'friend' look shady and as if they have alot to hide. Based on the behavior so far it seems like friend is simply a coward. I also wonder if the 'friend' could possibly be source for drugs or drug connections and so is hiding to protect not only himself but other shady folks? I love to give people the benefit of the doubt always but when someone is actively hiding and even the family isn't talking about them then something isn't adding up in my mind. IDK but its something to think about. I think that when the goal is finding someone it makes making personal decisions very simple for most people. Obviously the 'friend' doesn't subscribe to this way of thinking and is just thinking about himself and possibly others connected to him. JMO.
 
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I hear you on the damned if you do damned if you don't theory for the friend. I guess my issue is that if someones life is at stake then it makes sense to take the heat that comes from being called out and do what you can to help rather than hiding. I just believe IMOO that hiding isn't helping find DV and it just makes the 'friend' look shady and as if they have alot to hide. Based on the behavior so far it seems like friend is simply a coward. I also wonder if the 'friend' could possibly be source for drugs or drug connections and so is hiding to protect not only himself but other shady folks? I love to give people the benefit of the doubt always but when someone is actively hiding and even the family isn't talking about them then something isn't adding up in my mind. IDK but its something to think about. I think that when the goal is finding someone it makes making personal decisions very simple for most people. Obviously the 'friend' doesn't subscribe to this way of thinking and is just thinking about himself and possibly others connected to him. JMO.

I absolutely agree with you, Jo. It's definitely not helping anyone but himself (I know he is making himself look shady, but no one knows who he is to point the finger at him). You just have to take the flack to help your friend, which unfortunately, this guy doesn't seem to understand.
 
  • #473
Sorry, I'm all over the place and slow, but I am not sure I am following?
We were grasping at straws to figure out why the 'friend' might be 'off limits' to the family and LE. Someone suggested military person might get a pass from LE for whatever reason. Military person also might be reluctant to get involved with investigation. I'm totally open to military person idea given the number of military in the area. I also wonder if the friend is somehow politically connected either to police or power structure in Mobile or was working with police in some way on another case. I simply DK. There is nothing here to work with that I can see. LE want this case to drop and end so far as I can tell. Not sure more billboards or posters will help this case given the time that has passed. I think they just need to bring closure for family and find body as I sadly don't believe DV is alive after all this time unless she went off on a bender/spree and didn't want to be found. The reason I doubt this though is she was out celebrating her car and was happy about the freedom her car was bringing her and her family said her apt had cash and hadn't been disturbed.

I also wonder if LE has found the car but is keeping that quiet for whatever reason? We also know husband/baby daddy was in jail for 5 days or so (I've yet to see confirm of this from anyone other than the family BTW) so I wonder who his friend group is and whether they are in any way involved with this situation? Again. We have zero to work with other than we know Dad/baby daddy has issues with LE. I think I'm leaving this case for now as there is nothing to work with. Will check in periodically but I feel like I'm not able to do any more without more information. Its sad because DV seems like a very hard worker and someone who loved her little girl. It just seems the people around her might not have been making it easy to make changes in her life and they weren't looking out for her IMO.
 
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  • #474
The other thing I want to toss out there is that if Mobile LE wanted to find this woman and her car and they didn't have the expertise to track the GPS or solicit the CCTV along the path that she traveled that night then they had the option available of bringing in FBI and Alabama State Bureau. So far as we know nobody from the outside was brought in to do ANYTHING. This is not an encouraging sign in my mind and did a huge disservice to this case. This local police force is no doubt doing its best to deal with a high volume of local violent crime but I seriously question not raising their hands for help. Not sure if its ego on the part the the chief, ignorance as to available technology options or pure laziness/stupidity or maybe they just don't care? IDK but if LE isn't working the case I'm not sure how much I can add?
 
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Oh my goodness what an unusual case I really hope this young lady is safe and well . I may be shot down in flames for this. I have only seen a couple of posts infer that she may be missing voluntarily.

I have to say the first thing that crossed my mind was the three things that could track the location of a person.
  • Mobile Phone (Left behind mislaid )
  • Car GPS (Disabled at some time after shell)
  • No Credit Card ( Deals in cash only)
{snipped by me for brevity}

You won't get flames from me. Voluntary was my gut reaction initially, for the reasons you listed. But...

We were grasping at straws to figure out why the 'friend' might be 'off limits' to the family and LE. Someone suggested military person might get a pass from LE for whatever reason. Military person also might be reluctant to get involved with investigation. I'm totally open to military person idea given the number of military in the area. I also wonder if the friend is somehow politically connected either to police or power structure in Mobile or was working with police in some way on another case. I simply DK. There is nothing here to work with that I can see. LE want this case to drop and end so far as I can tell. Not sure more billboards or posters will help this case given the time that has passed. I think they just need to bring closure for family and find body as I sadly don't believe DV is alive after all this time unless she went off on a bender/spree and didn't want to be found. The reason I doubt this though is she was out celebrating her car and was happy about the freedom her car was bringing her and her family said her apt had cash and hadn't been disturbed.

I also wonder if LE has found the car but is keeping that quiet for whatever reason? We also know husband/baby daddy was in jail for 5 days or so (I've yet to see confirm of this from anyone other than the family BTW) so I wonder who his friend group is and whether they are in any way involved with this situation? Again. We have zero to work with other than we know Dad/baby daddy has issues with LE. I think I'm leaving this case for now as there is nothing to work with. Will check in periodically but I feel like I'm not able to do any more without more information. Its sad because DV seems like a very hard worker and someone who loved her little girl. It just seems the people around her might not have been making it easy to make changes in her life and they weren't looking out for her IMO.

Bolding mine. And also, I asked early on about the SO/ex-SO and we still don't have FACTS. Allegedly he was locked up, but no confirmation of that yet. That's VERY concerning.
 
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Great information. The mention of ping near Dauphin Street is interesting. Where did you see that mentioned? That could mean that is where they headed after Shell Station and maybe that is where things happened? Is the link postable?

It was on fb i am just not sure if i can post or not.
 
  • #477
You won't get flames from me. Voluntary was my gut reaction initially, for the reasons you listed. But...



Bolding mine. And also, I asked early on about the SO/ex-SO and we still don't have FACTS. Allegedly he was locked up, but no confirmation of that yet. That's VERY concerning.
Which SO/ex SO are you referring to?
 
  • #478
I’ve been out of commission for a couple of days and am trying to catch up. I’m so pleased to see so many more interested members. I’m still reading but haven’t seen anyone list her full name yet. Danniella Nickole Vian. I noticed the unusual spelling of her middle name. Does anyone recognize it as a cultural reference? It’s listed here along with additional details of appearance.
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I've been following along this thread for a few days and feel strongly about a few things.

1. I believe DV stopped in that Shell station to use drugs. She was there for 20+ minutes with another car, which may or may not have been the friend she was following, or may or may not have been a drug dealer. I can think of very few other reasons she would be parked in a gas station parking lot in the midst of a night of partying for that length of time.

2. I think her friend may have also been a drug user, and that's why he's been so quiet. I bet he was going with DV to also use drugs. He may have been planning to meet up with her later, after circling back to grab her phone, to do the drugs they were buying in that Shell station parking lot. Maybe DV did a little bump to try it out first, and that's what took her so long.

3. I think DV followed a drug dealer/sketchy person in car #3 to go somewhere. More drugs, another party, something. Somewhere along the way, things went south. I think she probably arrived at a location with this person and then something happened that resulted in her being assaulted and/or murdered, or potentially an OD.

4. Potentially LE is deprioritizing this case because DV and friend are drug users and there is no real evidence at this point that harm has been done to her. They may be thinking, well, she followed some guy home to do drugs with him. Until we have evidence that she's been hurt in some way, what are we supposed to do about it? Not saying that's right, but with a heavy caseload, they may be prioritizing others over her.

IMO.
 
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