All Things Britney Spears Part 4

[Pocono Sleuther]

I know it's difficult to get someone abusing drugs, alcohol, and suffering from a mental illness to listen and get help, but Britney has shown time and again that she is a danger to herself. My question is WHY can't her parents go to court and declare her incompetent to have her committed and force her to get help? This had to be done for my aunt and she was not nearly as 'lost' as Brit. My heart breaks for her. Yes, she's addicted to drugs and that is her issue. BUT she's ill. Very seriously ill. I think she does the drugs and drinks to numb the pain. I have never abused drugs or alcohol but have suffered from depression and panic attacks. It's painful and it ruins you. I was lucky enough to have a wonderful doctor who noticed my ppd running out of control and stepped in. Britney has only 'yes men' and enablers. She needs someone to draw the line for her or I fear she'll be dead in six months.

So, why can't they declare her incompetent temporarily and place her in a good facility far away from this media mess?

 

[JBean]

People is reporting that BS tested clean for alcohol and rugs. Has this been mentioned already? sorry.
also says she did not threaten suicide.

http://www.people.com/people

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

People is reporting that BS tested clean for alcohol and rugs. Has this been mentioned already? sorry.

I read that too. I don't know who/what to believe, if any. I just know I feel awful for Britney and think someone needs to step in NOW to save her.

 

[JBean]

Britney Spears tested free of illegal drugs and alcohol during her two-night stay at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, a reliable source tells PEOPLE.

"She tested clean," the source says. "This lady is as clean as clean can be, and has been for some time."

The source adds the pop star never threatened suicide during the four-hour standoff at her Studio City home Jan. 3, saying such rumors were "bull----."

Spears, 26, was hospitalized early the morning of Jan. 4 under California's "5150 Hold," in which she was deemed a danger to herself or others and could be held for 72 hours for evaluation. Based on officers' observations at the scene, police said she appeared to be "under the influence of an unknown substance."

Two separate sources who are acquaintances of the family tell PEOPLE they believe the singer has an undiagnosed bipolar disorder. One of those sources says Spears has "suffered from a psychological disease for years."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20169688,00.html

 

[JBean]

I read that too. I don't know who/what to believe, if any. I just know I feel awful for Britney and think someone needs to step in NOW to save her.

I think her inner circle is too scared to stage an intervention of any kind.
If she needs psychological help, there isn't much anyone can do, unless she is deemed incompetent and that would be pretty tough. At this point she has to come to understand she needs help and get it.
The most important thing is that KFed got custody of those babies.I am assuming her visits will have to be monitored?

 

[believe09]

I respect your opinion of course, and support your right to it, but I don't think he is a god or effective by any stretch. I think he is a master at marketing pop psychology and consider him strictly an entertainer/businessman. It does not surprise me to hear the Spears' would put their faith (perhaps) in someone with such a superficial treatment background as himself-he has not had patients in private practice for almost 10 years. It is clear that a quick fix is not going to work for Brit-Dr. Phil is all about the quick fixes...it is a bad combination.

The joke is on us that we continue to be riveted by this situation; it is akin to staring at a traffic accident. I hope and pray that all of this has not brought permanent emotional damage to her children-they are the ones who need to be protected first and foremost.

 

[JBean]

I respect your opinion of course, and support your right to it, but I don't think he is a god or effective by any stretch. I think he is a master at marketing pop psychology and consider him strictly an entertainer/businessman. It does not surprise me to hear the Spears' would put their faith (perhaps) in someone with such a superficial treatment background as himself-he has not had patients in private practice for almost 10 years. It is clear that a quick fix is not going to work for Brit-Dr. Phil is all about the quick fixes...it is a bad combination.

The joke is on us that we continue to be riveted by this situation; it is akin to staring at a traffic accident. I hope and pray that all of this has not brought permanent emotional damage to her children-they are the ones who need to be protected first and foremost.

I know someone who went on his show and let's just say Dr Phil is full of carp.

 

[SeekingJana]

The key word is illegal drugs. Remember, ANS had prescriptions for every drug found in her system, I believe.

Britney Spears tested free of illegal drugs and alcohol during her two-night stay at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, a reliable source tells PEOPLE.

"She tested clean," the source says. "This lady is as clean as clean can be, and has been for some time."

The source adds the pop star never threatened suicide during the four-hour standoff at her Studio City home Jan. 3, saying such rumors were "bull----."

Spears, 26, was hospitalized early the morning of Jan. 4 under California's "5150 Hold," in which she was deemed a danger to herself or others and could be held for 72 hours for evaluation. Based on officers' observations at the scene, police said she appeared to be "under the influence of an unknown substance."

Two separate sources who are acquaintances of the family tell PEOPLE they believe the singer has an undiagnosed bipolar disorder. One of those sources says Spears has "suffered from a psychological disease for years."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20169688,00.html

 

[believe09]

I know someone who went on his show and let's just say Dr Phil is full of carp.

That is a common story if you spend any time ready commentary by some of his guests..lol...he is laughing all the way to the bank. How about that diet book? OMG, what is Dr. Phil's BMI and cholesterol levels do you suppose? I could care less incidentally-I support and cherish differences in body types etc...I just thought it was so funny...

Please don't attack...

 

[SeekingJana]

If I had a substance abuse or psychological problem, the last thing on earth I would do is run to the phone or computer and contact the Dr. Phil show. I really don't understand the mindset of the people who do go on his show.. but I do think the principles he lays down on air the times I have watched the show are valid psychological principles. I've never heard him say anything which contradicts current trends in mental health treatment.

He's never said he was a cure-all. In fact, he's gone out of his way to say that problems cannot be solved in one hour. He gives a broad blueprint as to how the person can get help or resolve a sometimes superficial problem.
He is about on par with Keith Ablow.

Yeah, I'm finished with the Britney talk. She lives or she dies. It's her choice to make.

I respect your opinion of course, and support your right to it, but I don't think he is a god or effective by any stretch. I think he is a master at marketing pop psychology and consider him strictly an entertainer/businessman. It does not surprise me to hear the Spears' would put their faith (perhaps) in someone with such a superficial treatment background as himself-he has not had patients in private practice for almost 10 years. It is clear that a quick fix is not going to work for Brit-Dr. Phil is all about the quick fixes...it is a bad combination.

The joke is on us that we continue to be riveted by this situation; it is akin to staring at a traffic accident. I hope and pray that all of this has not brought permanent emotional damage to her children-they are the ones who need to be protected first and foremost.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

What is your source for this sanction he received from the Texas Board of Psychologists? I have never heard of any hint of misconduct in private practice by this man.
In fact, Robin has said on more than one occasion that they have never cheated on each other, and have been married over 25 years.
If his cheating was a matter of public record like you say, it sure makes her a big ole fool for saying something like that on TV.

And another thing, doesn't it make sense to you that if a person is going on TV to get advice for a problem, then they are giving up confidentiality by default? He wouldn't have much of a show if everyone was called " John Doe", was shown in silhouette, and with their voice disguised, would he? Part of the human condition is observing interaction and reaction.

I have to wonder if some of you might feel threatened by his no BS approach.

Britney didn't go on his show and those who do must sign a release. Until and unless someone does, he cannot share their problems with the world.

 

[SeekingJana]

Britney didn't go on his show and those who do must sign a release. Until and unless someone does, he cannot share their problems with the world.

Yes, I know that he has lengthy contracts for guests or prospective guests to sign. I also know that some people decide at the last minute not to go on.. I admire them just as much, if not more, than the people who go on TV and gripe because their husbands don't put the seat down, etc.

A little bit of the show goes a long way, IMO, but I stand my my evaluation that I have never seen him give harmful advice or offer harmful solutions to anyone.

 

[believe09]

I never said harmful, SeekingJana-just "25 words or less." If I see you shooting up on the street, I can walk up to you and demand that you stop because it is a stupid thing to do for obvious reasons. You might not consider it a very effective approach-but hey, it is advice dispensed with marching orders...lol

Peace to you...

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Yes, I know that he has lengthy contracts for guests or prospective guests to sign. I also know that some people decide at the last minute not to go on.. I admire them just as much, if not more, than the people who go on TV and gripe because their husbands don't put the seat down, etc.

A little bit of the show goes a long way, IMO, but I stand my my evaluation that I have never seen him give harmful advice or offer harmful solutions to anyone.

I agree. He's pretty harmless. I can't imagine Britney going on his show and I feel that it was wrong for him to show up at the hospital, even if her father did ask him to do so. She's a grown woman. If she's going to get help, she's going to have to realize for herself first of all that she really needs it and secondly that she's ready for it. Until she admits to herself that she's got a problem, they can't force her to get help. She was in rehab for a month and when she came out she was even worse than before. If taking her children from her isn't the "rock bottom" that they were hoping for, they'll have to wait until she its her own definition of rock bottom before she'll be ready to face the fact that substances or not, she needs some help.

 

[MsPooh]

ok if hubby and I were to split and he started demanding $$$$ immediately, accusing me of being "unfit", dragging me through the mud time and time again, say that I am an alcoholic and drug user (when he turned me onto most of it to begin with..and still probably has a problem himself)..constantly dragging me to court for at least a year...questioning my integrity at every turn...demanding MORE $$$$....dragging me to court AGAIN...constantly trying to get sole custody..for MORE than a year...I would start having serious issues...ohhhh throw into the mix that I cannot go anywhere without being trailed by a bunch of loons with cameras following absolutely everything I do, do we see KFED everytime he picks his nose?...he is smelling like a rose on her dime, but is he supporting her at all?!?!? She is after all the Mother of his children, or his meal ticket at least (always has been)..like I have posted before, who has she had to depend on in the last oh say 6 months?!?!.....I do not see any bi-polar in her...she is a Mother that has had the constant threat of losing her children by their spermdonor that isn't any better than her, she doesn't know which way is up I am sure...
I would be soo off the chain if this were me.......

 

[nanandjim]

I know someone who went on his show and let's just say Dr Phil is full of carp.

JBean - I'd be interested in hearing more details about this Dr. Phil experience. I take Dr. Phil for what he is. He really seems to be full of himself, more and more. He thinks that he is a big celebrity. I see him as a vehicle of awareness, to let people see the problems of the world. I don't think that he claims to be able to "fix" people's problems in one hour. Doesn't he often arrange for guests to see professionals free of charge? I figure that is the only reason the average person would air his/her problems to millions.

I also see that Dr. Phil's main interest is in himself and keeping his show on the air. I don't see this as being any different from the average joe who wants to keep his job and doing whatever is necessary to ensure that s/he does.

 

[JBean]

JBean - I'd be interested in hearing more details about this Dr. Phil experience. I take Dr. Phil for what he is. He really seems to be full of himself, more and more. He thinks that he is a big celebrity. I see him as a vehicle of awareness, to let people see the problems of the world. I don't think that he claims to be able to "fix" people's problems in one hour. Doesn't he often arrange for guests to see professionals free of charge? I figure that is the only reason the average person would air his/her problems to millions.

I also see that Dr. Phil's main interest is in himself and keeping his show on the air. I don't see this as being any different from the average joe who wants to keep his job and doing whatever is necessary to ensure that s/he does.

I can't speak of the details, sorry. but I can tell you what he said and did was pretty much a load of bullcarp.
He is defintiely an entertainer.

 

[CarpeDiem]

I can't imagine how her family feels. Everytime the phone rings. It must be a relief that the kids are safe, but the heartbreak at where she is at in life - Unimaginable. If she didn't have such wealth, she would be on the streets and no one would know where she was.

 

[deanws]

I have to tell you, if it is shown Britney was NOT on drugs during this episode I may begin to change my mind about her.

I agree with you OLG. I had already given up on her. If this is true mental illness, which is what it looks like, I hope she gets help and gets to see the children. I know she loves them. By the way...LOVE your doggie signature!!!!

 

[deanws]

I can't speak of the details, sorry. but I can tell you what he said and did was pretty much a load of bullcarp.
He is defintiely an entertainer.

But, he does do good works for others. He or his advertisers spend a lot of money helping people, and I admire that. I don't care if it is just for show. The people benefit from it and that is all that matters. I know that some entertainers are not what they seem. I am sorry if one of your friends got hurt from his show. That sucks!