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  • #101
If the plane was short of the runway, as has been reported, why was it still so high in the air? From the videos, it appears the plane came in at an angle with the nose already a fireball and went nose first into the runway.

By saying the plane was short of the runway, should it not have been descending, ready to set its wheels on the runway and crashed before hitting the runway?

Why don't we see a crater in the runway? There is no way it could have been filled this quickly as there would be major investigation taking place inside that crater.

My opinions only.
 
  • #102
watcher9 said:
They seem to keep changing the story as to what happened.
Found this and wonder why the pictures being posted don't show a big hole in the pavement. Could the pictures be of a different crash at the same airport or is this bad reporting?

Closed-circuit TV footage showed the plane going down at a steep angle and exploding. The powerful explosion left a big crater in the runway and pulverized the plane and passengers' remains.

http://www.wtoc.com/story/31519902/russia-black-boxes-from-plane-crash-site-are-badly-damaged
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Hi watch

I so agree - its like they think everyone is an idiot and they get away with it

it is obserd, there is no evidence of fire on any of those runway pics they have been releasing ad nausim

they claim it was short of the runway-- so why are you guys only showing the world pics of uncharred, pieces of wreckage with no evidence of a runway burn.

I really wish someone would do the time thing

I wanna know how light it was, that CCTV footage that appeared faster than a bolt of lightening, and looked looked like total darkness in the middle of the night , and like a meteroite, and in black and in black and white -

it is 2016 eho the hell is running black and white CCTV - tell me africa maybe it is just getting silly


same cr%p they did with MH 17 one, after it totally gets out of the news cycle they come up with some can of coke that distroyed ( the 777 is a JUMBO)

give me a break

and fine if were in the cold war how it works its insulting how stupid do you think the world is

and I am not being weird - but here on WS as time goesz by you think any of US are buying this nonsense

that is why we all are here knock out the lies

two nights ago Don Lemmon called it a 787 which would be fine a boo boo but there is a 787, DreamLiner it Boings latest entry in the world .

god thats like saying the victim was female when it was a man

fact checking if you pls
ok I shall calm- in any sitution no human likes being lied to how it works

and where is the media, asking sorry what you are putting out makes no sense


its the ame nonsense as Malasia did with 370 just dumb sh%t


trust me here, the NTSB is dying in their conversations ....

They are saying we will have out results in the next 3 weeks

average time for NTSB to release their "final" is 18 -24 MONTHS
 
  • #103
1&2&3 said:
If the plane was short of the runway, as has been reported, why was it still so high in the air? From the videos, it appears the plane came in at an angle with the nose already a fireball and went nose first into the runway.

By saying the plane was short of the runway, should it not have been descending, ready to set its wheels on the runway and crashed before hitting the runway?

Why don't we see a crater in the runway? There is no way it could have been filled this quickly as there would be major investigation taking place inside that crater.

My opinions only.
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I believe that the pilot had aborted the landing and was going around for another attempt when the plane just dropped out of the sky. It’s pretty obvious that it impacted the runway, not short of it. The runway should have about 17 to 23 inches of concrete. I think that should be adequate to withstand the impact of a 737 without leaving a significant crater. There is some reports that there is some damage to the runway, which they are repairing before the airport can be reopened.
 
  • #104
1&2&3 said:
If the plane was short of the runway, as has been reported, why was it still so high in the air? From the videos, it appears the plane came in at an angle with the nose already a fireball and went nose first into the runway.

By saying the plane was short of the runway, should it not have been descending, ready to set its wheels on the runway and crashed before hitting the runway?

Why don't we see a crater in the runway? There is no way it could have been filled this quickly as there would be major investigation taking place inside that crater.

My opinions only.
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Thank you 123
 
  • #105
KaaBoom said:
I believe that the pilot had aborted the landing and was going around for another attempt when the plane just dropped out of the sky. It’s pretty obvious that it impacted the runway, not short of it. The runway should have about 17 to 23 inches of concrete. I think that should be adequate to withstand the impact of a 737 without leaving a significant crater. There is some reports that there is some damage to the runway, which they are repairing before the airport can be reopened.
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Hi Boom

Respectfully!

but we have to go with the black and white nonsense, which looked similiar to a baby nuclear bomb

I am looking for FIRE!! On both the runway and debris ---- none

back to video the exlosion could not have have left nothing with FIRE!!
 
  • #106
CARIIS said:
Hi Boom

Respectfully!

but we have to go with the black and white nonsense, which looked similiar to a baby nuclear bomb

I am looking for FIRE!! On both the runway and debris ---- none

back to video the exlosion could not have have left nothing with FIRE!!
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I’m not sure what you are trying to say. I think if you look at the pictures closely, you will see a lot of evidence of fire.
 
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CARIIS said:
Russian authorties (posted earlier) say the opposite

Black boxes from crashed FlyDubai flight are in normal condition and are decipherable, source says - Interfax


longer we go more i smell more fish!!
Russian investigators agree to removal of wreckage from FlyDubai crash site, emergency headquarters official says - Interfax

In a crash site like that NTSB would be there easily a week IMO

In a video , you folks release, where something appears to be a glow, you state this

FlyDubai CEO Ghaith al-Ghaith says there is no suspicions that a bomb caused the crash - AlArabiya

At this point do how you even say that? Noone can even tell us the actual point of impact and what you all already did residual testing for explosives on a million pieces spread all over god knows where.

It took NTSB ages to rule in or out bomb TWA 800. Lockerbee was not "annonced" a bomb for some time. That was amazing -- they found a tiny circuit chip from the Toshiba radio that had the explosive in it!!! Amazing.
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Nothing about the whole incident seems right. Just like the plane shot down that they tried so hard to hide....
Not the flightradar24. I run that from my phone. Not the black and whites. Not the way the damage was gone thru.. amazingly quickly. I didn't see much with the cadaver dogs or body bags. Or an identifiable peace of good sized fuz.
I have jazz hands and they are waving so hard at this being a red flag.
For who what and why hmmmpf I doubt we'll ever know


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  • #110
Another Boeing 737 was grounded in Moscow today
Due to something 'malfunctioning' ......

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  • #111
^^^^ as quoted by RT. Sorry still can't fathom out how to share a link here

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  • #113
Gigi-G said:
Nothing about the whole incident seems right. Just like the plane shot down that they tried so hard to hide....
Not the flightradar24. I run that from my phone. Not the black and whites. Not the way the damage was gone thru.. amazingly quickly. I didn't see much with the cadaver dogs or body bags. Or an identifiable peace of good sized fuz.
I have jazz hands and they are waving so hard at this being a red flag.
For who what and why hmmmpf I doubt we'll ever know


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I dont know if we are ever gonna know either. There moving stuff out of the debris field already. That messes everything up.

Just an example of how detailed real investigators tag and record where wreckage lands.

No way can they do that IMO in two days in that weather.

And it actually gives them tons of info from the debris and where and how it impacts etc .

So they have already "skipped" that part. British Frend Candian US all do it that way.

But has anyone seen any video of where the hypothetical fireball was . If that exlosion suppossedly happened on the runway shots, I think we would see much more fire.

I was kinda expecting like the main intial impact spot to be on grass before the runway no?

Just shady IMO
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  • #114
So much stuff just does not seem burned "enough" from the way the balck and white video - starting to really wonder if that was actually the plane.

Scroll down on link there is interesting video near the bottom of the page.

It will be intersting to see if they claim the recorders were "playable"

Flightradar 24, a website which monitors live air traffic, suggests flydubai's FZ981 was not the only aircraft to have difficulty landing at Rostov-on-Don last night. According to this data, an Aeroflot flight from Moscow also made several landing attempts but eventually gave up and diverted to Krasnodar.





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-plane-crash-dozens-reported-dead-latest.html
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Check out picture below here, (orange and white piece of wreckage and then look at picture of intact one - where the orange is - its like 13 rows ahead of the wings Fuel tanks. The explosion on the black and white sure looks like the wreckage on that part would have intense burning . I see no evidence of fire at all belwo.
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  • #115
New angle of black and white shot


[video=youtube;jEThAV3Y2_I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEThAV3Y2_I[/video]
 
  • #116
I will see if I can get any local opinions from my dad. My stepmother is from this region though her family moved to Ukraine when she was a little girl. She still has family living there though.
 
  • #117
CARIIS said:
New angle of black and white shot


[video=youtube;jEThAV3Y2_I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEThAV3Y2_I[/video]
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Well I definitely saw 1 ball of fire come down. Before the secondary 'hit' then you have the 2nd 'hit' then thirdly the final explosion.
Anyone else's thoughts?
Still not adding up for me.
The Lockerbie flight that was said to have exploded mid-air if you look at the damage and tearing up of the land/houses. The search teams pulled up yet still fairly huge pieces of fuz. I think even there was an almost a complete engine.
Another plane downed short or overshot in UK actually took out a major Motorway (freeway). I'll see if I can find some shots..
Oh another thing.... earlier one news team were stating that the black boxes were in good condition. Which should pull up some vital information. Yet a few hours later a different media outlet are saying the boxes are too badly damaged that there's much doubt they'll be able to recover any data?
I'm sniffing [emoji90]

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  • #118
Rostov is a major regional hub, connecting southern Russia to destinations across the former Soviet Union, as well as international destinations including Prague and Istanbul

what is this with all this horrible resolution cameras at a busy airport!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12198573/Russian-plane-crash-dozens-reported-dead-latest.html
 
  • #119
Yhe edit timeout did it again!!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12198573/Russian-plane-crash-dozens-reported-dead-latest.html

Moscow Times - story is 4 paragraphs!!
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/...s-while-landing-in-russias-rostov/562968.html

normal so-called glide slope for landing is 3 degrees, but as we can see in the video, the slope was about 30 degrees, maybe more, maybe 40 degrees.

an Aeroflot aircraft had three failed attempts at landing in between the FlyDubai’s first attempt,
majority of them were diverting.

Rostov isn’t the easiest airport to land at on an ordinary day.

flight radar data available online suggests that this aircraft was trying to take off again – in other words, aborting the landing a second time. They say that it’s on that second attempt to abort landing and to initiate a go-around that this crash happened. As the aircraft tried to climb back into the sky it fell violently and crashed.

 It’s interesting at this stage that straightaway terrorism is being ruled out largely...


.......... If this video is genuine....................


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/336350-flydubai-crash-russia-flightfz981/
 
  • #120
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Lockerbie... note even though it was blown up mid air. The crater. And large parts of plane identifiable. Even to the untrained eye.

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