Attorney Seeks To Spare Casey Anthony From Death Penalty

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  • #381
The defense is trying the case in public. Trying to use the media for themselves yet blaming the prosecution for doing EXACTLY what they claim the prosecution is doing. More pot/kiettle

I agree. My first thought when I read the defense did this was that if they are admitting death and a crime, without actually admitting it, and they were profferring accidental OD that the actual cause of death is probably going to be much worse.

In reading the articles, I also noted there is no "source." The article doesn't say who gave media the documents. It makes me question if the defense isn't actually the source of this leak. The State's Attorney's Office is not even admitting that they have recieved the document.

So did defense submit the article themselves? The stated objective is that they are trying to prevent the death penalty. But is the actual objective something more? Perhaps a way to finally admit to the death and plant the story of the "accidental OD" in the publics mind in order to lessen the impact at trial and begin to give what they hope to be an acceptable or at least better reason for Caylee's death?
 
  • #382
Doesn't this remind you of the 1,2,3 some LEs use to tell families that a loved one is dead? First you tell them there has been an accident, then you tell them that there were serious injuries and then you tell them that their loved one didn't make it. This seems to be a variation on that strategy and pretty much in the same way politicians handle this kind of problem - first they float rumours themselves to counteract the other rumours, then they offer up a tidbit of info to reinforce the rumour and gauge public reaction and then they make a statement confirming whatever it is they're trying to manage. If the defense did do this, they may be trying to gauge public opinion to see how much outrage would be generated by a plea deal. Naturally the prosecution is going to demand as much time as the sentence would allow, while the defense is going to try and negotiate as little time as they think the public will tolerate before they cross a line.

Defense - manslaughter, 5 to 10
Prosecution - homicide 20 to life
The sentence could fall somewhere in between the two.
 
  • #383
I would gladly exchange the DP for a confession and LWOP if it leads to KC saying where Caylee is. With TES showing up in less than 48 hours, the doc dump and discovery that should now be in the defense' hands, it might be that KC's legal team finally is seeing the writing on the wall.
 
  • #384
Oh my goodness, I don't think I could ever believe that any child is really truly evil and not suffering very early, undiagnosed, and poorly studied childhood mental illness. I can't believe Casey was evil very young either, but she does have to answer now. Maybe this attorney is trying to set up some future claim that Casey imagined real harm and locked Caylee in the trunk as protection.
 
  • #385
Follow me here;

That paper was written for her to get a lesser charge.
And this was released to seek PITY for possible jurors.
Well Sorry it backfired for the pity. Casey is a Sociopath, she knew what she was doing, accident or not if it was the chloroform because she REASEARCHED IT ONLINE.
So she is NOT mentally disturbed!!!!.
And people are MORE enraged now, after all the LIES about the Anthonys searching for an alive Caylee.
Bottom line, the pity party MIGHT work for the prosecutors, BUT, it WONT work in the publics opinion!
Sorry now Im MAD, doesnt ANYONE care about CAYLEE?
YES Tim Miller, LP, LE and the PUBLIC CARE!
Why oh why doesnt Caylees family care? This poor little girl is being used as a pawn for CASEY! Its disguisting!

We're thinking along the same lines. I like it! This is pure posturing and positioning for the defense. I think going to trial is what they want; first because they think the people of Florida are ignorant and second, the media exposure for the attorneys (good or bad) is worth more than the bill they could slap the state or the client.
 
  • #386
I have a feeling they want assurance that the State will not seek the death penalty by trying to convey doubt to LE that their evidence is flimsy at best. I think a confession is just around the corner IF it assures she could sidestep the DP.

Think you are right Baz...I just doubt that it will ever be the real truth about what KC did to that baby...she will lie til she dies...

I just hope they hurry up & tell LE where Caylee is before any more searchers are sent out there.
 
  • #387
JG (under oath): "Her and Casey started having an argument about something, and I stuck up for Casey. I said, 'Please don`t do this while I`m here. Don`t talk to her like that. You know I love your daughter.'"

And then she immediately just throws Casey under the bus, in proverbial terms, just lays her out there, "How do you want to be with somebody who`s got no future? She didn`t even go back to get her high school education. You know, She`s got a -- she got a job at a place where she doesn`t really even make enough money to support Caylee. I`m doing -- I`m the one supporting Caylee."

CA apparently didn't fail to use KC's lack of a hs diploma against her in front of friends before Caylee went missing..

Thank you so much for that. But of course, there will be people who have to find the .05% chance of it meaning something else. If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck....sorry, it's a freaking DUCK.
 
  • #388
IMO kc probably learned from a very young age ger mother would cover up for all of her lies.

But my question is why lie in the first place? 4 year olds that lie to their teacher's (and parent's) face when the evidence CLEARLY points in the opposite direction. You can explain to them "listen, it's always better to tell the truth, you'll get in more trouble for lying to me than just telling the truth about what happened". These kids will STICK TO THEIR STORY no matter what! Finally you just give up and try to get to them by giving all the attention to their victim. That tactic really works by the way.:rolleyes:
 
  • #389
I think the TES search brought this about. Most TES searches, they haven't given the location until after the search. But this time, the locations and the number of searchers expected have been publicized. The fact that many professionals are to be included in the searchers is publicized. I think they do believe that Caylee's remains will be found this time and I think that has them worried because it will blow their "Caylee is alive" position out of the water. And if Caylee is found, there goes their trump card to try to exchange the DP for the location of her remains. So they admit to the "possible" death and crime before the fact in order to lessen the shock value of her remains being found.
 
  • #390
I think KC must be freakin' out. She knows where she left Caylee, knows TES is getting close and this whole thing isn't going to plan. She's running out of chances.
 
  • #391
What friends described her as not rational ? My memory is that
they all said they had no idea she was lying or capable of this .
They didnt notice anything OFF .

I too think getting death may be difficult - havent been many women
on death row in Fla . LWOP means she would be imprisoned much
longer

maybe they want her in mental health facility like John Hinkley
or Mark Chapman . Dont think that will happen

Timing is indeed interesting -
 
  • #392
I don't believe the timing has anything to do with the upcoming search. The prosecution will soon decide whether to push for the death penalty. Now is the appropriate time for the defense to attempt to prevent that from happing. The search is irrelevant.

I agree that this is a pretty typical pleading to be filed in a capital case such as this one, BUT I find it interesting, to say the least, that it was prepared and filed BEFORE the very public date TES begins searching again.
Why?
I would bet you Park Place that the defense, who has had a less-than-stellar showing, IMHO, during the bond and motion hearings, for starters (don't even get me started on the pressers that never should have taken place) has plenty of other work to complete (depositions, followup discovery, subpoenas, etc.) that would normally be completed prior to the defense turning to the preparation of the DP filings - which are usually some of the FINAL documents prepared. (The reason they are usually prepared near the end of the case is because it is only at that point that both the state and the defense have had the opportunity to size up the entirety of each other's case - and make decisions re: whether or not to offer/enter into any type of plea bargains, or to file this type of motion.)
Soooo...the defense has my attention for completing and filing this so quickly...there really was no rush. Nothin to gain tactically/procedurally re: whether it was filed this week or in late December - the effect for sentencing will be the same. Which leads me to the conclusion: why get it filed before the TES search, then, if not to "put it out there" before any real possibility of Caylee being found? :waitasec:
Only reason I can come up with is that they are preparing to drop the gauntlet IF Caylee is found and Casey is in a position of having to admit to something in order to be spared the DP (e.g., we still don't know how Caylee died, so what if Casey's worried about there being more than soft tissue injnuries, etc.)
 
  • #393
Ah. What is this? Why on earth would this come out now? Are they indicating that they are willing to bargain? I don't understand what this report is or why it would be released. :eek:

It's the "oh God, they are going to find her body this weekend and we need to come up with something quick before they announce it" defense
 
  • #394
There is no evidence of a fight at this point and certainly no evidence of Casey taking Caylee and moving out. All Caylee's things were left behind. I don't like to pretend that everyone involved with Caylee on the 15th and 16th of June is a liar or to 'imagine' scenerios and then twist the facts to fit them.
(emphasis added by Chezhire)
which was June 15...in his statement to LE. I'll look for the link for you, k.
 
  • #395
She is..and has been caught sleeping with a couple guards..Go Figure! Pull her picture up under SC inmate search, it's from 2007 I believe, she is all made up, looking happy as a clam. :furious:

As another poster stated so eloquently not too long ago: Casey will start trying to "date" any man in her vicinity at the prison (guards, social workers, therapists, etc.) :eek:
 
  • #396
It's the "oh God, they are going to find her body this weekend and we need to come up with something quick before they announce it" defense

lol yeah i've heard how successful THAT defense has been! boy, she sure has picked a couple of outstanding attys!
 
  • #397
I agree that this is a pretty typical pleading to be filed in a capital case such as this one, BUT I find it interesting, to say the least, that it was prepared and filed BEFORE the very public date TES begins searching again.
Why?
I would bet you Park Place that the defense, who has had a less-than-stellar showing, IMHO, during the bond and motion hearings, for starters (don't even get me started on the pressers that never should have taken place) has plenty of other work to complete (depositions, followup discovery, subpoenas, etc.) that would normally be completed prior to the defense turning to the preparation of the DP filings - which are usually some of the FINAL documents prepared. (The reason they are usually prepared near the end of the case is because it is only at that point that both the state and the defense have had the opportunity to size up the entirety of each other's case - and make decisions re: whether or not to offer/enter into any type of plea bargains, or to file this type of motion.)
Soooo...the defense has my attention for completing and filing this so quickly...there really was no rush. Nothin to gain tactically/procedurally re: whether it was filed this week or in late December - the effect for sentencing will be the same. Which leads me to the conclusion: why get it filed before the TES search, then, if not to "put it out there" before any real possibility of Caylee being found? :waitasec:
Only reason I can come up with is that they are preparing to drop the gauntlet IF Caylee is found and Casey is in a position of having to admit to something in order to be spared the DP (e.g., we still don't know how Caylee died, so what if Casey's worried about there being more than soft tissue injnuries, etc.)

Exactly...with all the spins the defense has afforded KC, I felt very uneasy about the "Unwittingly" overdose or whatever..If Caylee's precious body is found and there are broken bones, skull fracture, not so unwittingly is it?
 
  • #398
lol yeah i've heard how successful THAT defense has been! boy, she sure has picked a couple of outstanding attys!

I am curious to one thing..Folks have alluded that KC picked up JB's phone number the first time she was in jail, then someone said KC went to school with JB's daughter. Does anyone know for sure how JB was hired? Are we sure KC didn't know him prior to her arrests?
 
  • #399
As another poster stated so eloquently not too long ago: Casey will start trying to "date" any man in her vicinity at the prison (guards, social workers, therapists, etc.) :eek:

I don't think she'll limit herself to men. Remember the Hot Body contest picture from Fusion? She seemed pretty into the girl in the tube top. And the way she used to text Amy calling her "luv" and "me lady" always made think EWW! My best girlfriends and I don't even talk like that to each other, granted she's only 22 but still-EWW!:puke:
 
  • #400
I don't think she'll limit herself to men. Remember the Hot Body contest picture from Fusion? She seemed pretty into the girl in the tube top. And the way she used to text Amy calling her "luv" and "me lady" always made think EWW! My best girlfriends and I don't even talk like that to each other, granted she's only 22 but still-EWW!:puke:

Wayyyyy to sweet, my friends usually say hey B!^*h, what's shakin'?

I know, I know, they are so crude.:crazy:
 
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