Attorney Seeks To Spare Casey Anthony From Death Penalty

[ExpectingUnicorns]

"The State Attorney's Office would not confirm whether it received the report, which is not public record."

So, how did the Sentinel get the report?

I can't imagine. How do you think they got it, Chilly?

 

[strach304]

How does one "unwittingly" overdoes a two year old on grown up sedatives? She beats all that I have ever seen-she gets the prize. I think she has almost managed to put Scott P. into 2nd place sociopath!

She certainly makes him look like a genius.

 

[essies]

I also am wondering if the defense has gotten wind that someone has been spending some time with LE and maybe been thinking about cutting a deal for a lesser sentence and testifing against Casey before they go down with her. I have no knowledge of any such thing but it may play into why this is coming about now from the Casey wing of the A camp.

There's an interesting idea. There are quite a few candidates that could possibly wind up "going down" with her if not careful. I would hate to think someone was an accomplice to doing the "deed" whatever that turns out to be. But, perhaps there is someone who is a party to the coverup.

 

[strach304]

We already know she is not normal. Is stupidity a defense?

 

[technicalconfusion]

It did not LOOK like ppd...Andrea Yates FIT THE TICKET/Casey Anthony does NOT. She had post partum I do not want to be a mother, never wanted to be a mother and will not be a mother when I am DONE-she had a PLAN and she made a DECISION and she killed her child and did God only knows what with her, and no amount of baby-pictures or insane theories is going to change that. She took her daughters life, and should lose her own, in my own opinion.

Now tell us how you really feel, lol.

Wayyyyy to sweet, my friends usually say hey B!^*h, what's shakin'?

I know, I know, they are so crude.:crazy:

That's nice & sweet and I bet your friends feel loved. Mine on the other hand are a little rough around the edges, if I called one of them love or ma lady they would ask "You been drinkin' & takin' that Zanex again"? JK:crazy:

Seriously! My friends would instantly cart me off to the ER if I called em anything other than bimbo.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I wish I could be there with you. I look at my husband from time to time in all of this and say I have GOT to get to Florida! I need to go to Florida! Can you find a way for me to go to Florida? I am in Virginia and have 5 children at home and one out on his own with a new grand-baby, so my leaving for even an evening gives my family the "shakes", but I do so wish that I could be there with you and I will have you upmost in my thoughts and in my prayers that you will be led by that Spirit of Light and that the Light will shine upon our Caylee...Blessings to you and all the others who will search with you!:clap:

I have added a picture of my own beautiful family for you guys to meet. Of course I am the lady in the midst of them.

What a beautiful family.:blowkiss:

 

[shadow of my mind]

RROO4

I am not sure. Mark Furman from GVS said something about also but I can find it to save my life. I think..... this is just my memory talking to me... that it is this same Baily D. The interesting thing about this name is that Kiomarie C. brings him up in her interview with LE. Something about he was the one that talked her into contacty the police. I don't remember the word for word but that was the general jist. He was a great guy and he treated her better than her own father yada yada..

 

[OneLostGrl]

Thank you, Chilly!! As someone who suffered from post-partum depression after the birth of my twins, I can assure everyone here it 'ain't' no party!
Panic attacks when my husband would leave to go to work (mom would come over at 7 am) heck, I was afraid to DRIVE let alone drive to a bar, grocery store, Target for some push up bras. You get my drift. My goal seemed to be just trying to make it through a day and feed, diaper, snuggle my boys!

:blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Last I heard there are over 60 search dogs coming in for this search, including some water cadaver dogs and over 100 boats. I believe the defense is aware of the area and know this time she will be found.

Unbelievable! Talk about helpin' your fellow man...in this case a child but the point is the same. 60 dogs...I have so much faith in our four legged friends.

 

[LetJusticePrevail]

Where did you get that info? I heard Tm say tonight they were coming from 32 states, Canada and PR. I can't wait to see video of the searchers-I kinow I'm gonna start bawlin'. It's Thursday now-just hang on alittle longer Caylee-you're almost home!:bananalama::detective::beagle::cop::soldier::bud::beagle-flip::beagle-flip:

I already started 2 days ago when I tried every single flight combination (maybe if I leave on this day or at this hour or connect from this city or drive to depart to this city, I can afford it or maybe renting a car as opposed to sleeping in a hotel would be cheaper and I'll then either sleep in the car or at the campsite even though I'm deathly afraid I'll be eaten by alligators even though everyone's assured me otherwise).

I wanted, personally to do this for Caylee. I hope she will be watching all of the people out there looking for her - there will be an overwhelming amount of love for her there represented by wonderful selfless people from all over the country.

 

[DotsEyes]

The 30 page memorandum that is being discussed is not that big of an issue or indicative of anything one way or the other. Let me explain . . .

The prosecution has to decide if the State will seek the death penalty. This decision has not been made yet but must be made prior to trial on the merits.

The defense has submitted a memo outling its argument against a capital trial. Since we haven't heard that the State intends to seek the DP, I would rule out that this is a Memorandum in Opposition to a Sate motion. However, this was pre-trial hearing, which is the time for pre-trial motions on issues such as defenses. This is likely a memorandum of law and evidence on the issues in dispute. (If there were no issues in dispute, there would be no need for a trial). I don't know why NG made such a huge deal of this tonight.

The first defense of course would be that Caylee is alive. (At trial, experts will disagree on the scientific evidence and defense experts may be able to convince jurors that the test results do not conclusively prove that Caylee is deceased.)

Another defense could be an alternative defense such as "even if the science is not disputed, and without conceding the defense of Caylee being alive, the State can not prove that Caylee was murdered."

The defense argument will be that there is nothing in the State's case to prove murder as opposed to other scenarios such as an accidental death. (No matter how negligent the act of KC).

As an example, a child is overdosed on benedryl. Two scenarios exist: the child got into the medicine cabinet or someone gave the child too much, whether by accident or intent. Intent would of course make it murder, but it is only 1 of 3 scenarios and the other 2 are also believable. The defense argues that even if the State can prove death by ingestion of a toxin, it still can not prove intent. So, without intent, there is no "murder" at all and the DP is illegal. This is normal stuff.

The defense is not conceding death much less murder.

I haven't read the memo so I can't be 100% sure, but I am guessing it is what I described above.

 

[OneLostGrl]

No therapist, ect. could find out enough about her in an evaluation that was that brief to make a valid diagnosis..IMO

What was it, the jail psych evaluation?

 

[DotsEyes]

I was just wondering about something. If Casey fesses up than there is no trial, right? If there is no trial than the any issue with paternity does not become public knowledge as well as any other information on the case. It would be concidered closed and off to jail she would go for whatever the sentece was determined to be. Does anyone know if that is correct.

Yes. If KC confesses, there will be no trial. Further, I am not sure that paternity is an issue for the State in this particular case.

 

[magic-cat]

Another defense could be an alternative defense such as "even if the science is not disputed, and without conceding the defense of Caylee being alive, the State can not prove that Caylee was murdered."

The defense argument will be that there is nothing in the State's case to prove murder as opposed to other scenarios such as an accidental death. (No matter how negligent the act of KC).

As an example, a child is overdosed on benedryl. Two scenarios exist: the child got into the medicine cabinet or someone gave the child too much, whether by accident or intent. Intent would of course make it murder, but it is only 1 of 3 scenarios and the other 2 are also believable. The defense argues that even if the State can prove death by ingestion of a toxin, it still can not prove intent. So, without intent, there is no "murder" at all and the DP is illegal. This is normal stuff.

The defense is not conceding death much less murder.

I haven't read the memo so I can't be 100% sure, but I am guessing it is what I described above.

Snipped for space...

But if the State CAN show premeditation, ie Missing Child Sites and Chloroform recipes, then the argument is nil and void isn't it?

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Now tell us how you really feel, lol.








Seriously! My friends would instantly cart me off to the ER if I called em anything other than bimbo.

Sounds like my kind of gurlz.

 

[shadow of my mind]

The 30 page memorandum that is being discussed is not that big of an issue or indicative of anything one way or the other. Let me explain . . .

The prosecution has to decide if the State will seek the death penalty. This decision has not been made yet but must be made prior to trial on the merits.

The defense has submitted a memo outling its argument against a capital trial. Since we haven't heard that the State intends to seek the DP, I would rule out that this is a Memorandum in Opposition to a Sate motion. However, this was pre-trial hearing, which is the time for pre-trial motions on issues such as defenses. This is likely a memorandum of law and evidence on the issues in dispute. (If there were no issues in dispute, there would be no need for a trial). I don't know why NG made such a huge deal of this tonight.

The first defense of course would be that Caylee is alive. (At trial, experts will disagree on the scientific evidence and defense experts may be able to convince jurors that the test results do not conclusively prove that Caylee is deceased.)

Another defense could be an alternative defense such as "even if the science is not disputed, and without conceding the defense of Caylee being alive, the State can not prove that Caylee was murdered."

The defense argument will be that there is nothing in the State's case to prove murder as opposed to other scenarios such as an accidental death. (No matter how negligent the act of KC).

As an example, a child is overdosed on benedryl. Two scenarios exist: the child got into the medicine cabinet or someone gave the child too much, whether by accident or intent. Intent would of course make it murder, but it is only 1 of 3 scenarios and the other 2 are also believable. The defense argues that even if the State can prove death by ingestion of a toxin, it still can not prove intent. So, without intent, there is no "murder" at all and the DP is illegal. This is normal stuff.

The defense is not conceding death much less murder.

I haven't read the memo so I can't be 100% sure, but I am guessing it is what I described above.

Thank you for taking the time to explain that in plain speak. I can get through the case law and come out the other side, worn and dented but with a understanding but this is so much nicer to have someone else do the hard read.

 

[magic-cat]

Yes. If KC confesses, there will be no trial. Further, I am not sure that paternity is an issue for the State in this particular case.

I think paternity would almost HAVE to be an issue in any missing child case, due to the fact that although the Anthony's SAY the father is not in the picture, he is dead, he does not want anything to do with her, he wanted to meet her and be her dad but he died, and all the other stories they have concocted, it IS possible that Casey DID indeed tell the father, and therefore it would be imperative to discover the father if possible to rule out HIS involvement, ie: maybe HE killed her and Casey is protecting HIM, or maybe he is a drug lord and she is afraid of him and what he has done to Caylee and so she remains silent...you get my meaning. I would think it would be extremely valuable for them to identify this man if at all possible. I may be wrong, I often am.

 

[RR0004]

RROO4

I am not sure. Mark Furman from GVS said something about also but I can find it to save my life. I think..... this is just my memory talking to me... that it is this same Baily D. The interesting thing about this name is that Kiomarie C. brings him up in her interview with LE. Something about he was the one that talked her into contacty the police. I don't remember the word for word but that was the general jist. He was a great guy and he treated her better than her own father yada yada..

Oh...that I remember, but even tonight on NG LP talked of the "hands around the neck" incident. Was that LA who told LP? Again, it's only hearsay...not "documented" to my knowledge...but he's said it often enough. I just can't remember who told him about it.
Thanks for your help. That whole "K and B" thing seemed sketchy to me.

 

[RR0004]

Yes. If KC confesses, there will be no trial. Further, I am not sure that paternity is an issue for the State in this particular case.

I was wondering about the "unanswered" questions if this weren't to go to trial. I really don't care who Caylee's father is...but I do believe HE has the right to know. Especially, if they're able to bring her home and put her to rest.

 

[technicalconfusion]

Anybody notice this little paragraph at

http://www.wftv.com/news/17912485/detail.html

Eyewitness News learned that dissention among the defense team may be behind the release of those documents. The death penalty-qualified attorney, who is helping Jose Baez, said he wanted Casey to be evaluated by a nationally known psychologist who was involved in the Unabomber and the Elizabeth Smart cases. The attorney thinks Casey is mentally ill, but we’re told Baez rejected his suggestion.

One attorney sees the light and is trying to be a real defense lawyer, and Baez is still trying to play one on TV.