Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #13 *Arrest*

[Megnut]

Ive never thought she was stupid. Can see how some may find it hard to believe she's not. Just a thought, her use of the word discombobulated, would that clue people in or not?


To me, it was her own behaviour in leaving the hospital that caused cogs to start turning.

And it got the police involved so quickly too.

I do think she genuinely panicked there. But it was a huge mistep. (If she is guilty.)

*I'm not even sure panicked is the right emotion. Trying to pin it down in my mind...

Consciousness of guilt...

 

[katydid23]

Ive never thought she was stupid. Can see how some may find it hard to believe she's not. Just a thought, her use of the word discombobulated, would that clue people in or not?


To me, it was her own behaviour in leaving the hospital that caused cogs to start turning.

Yes.

And it got the police involved so quickly too.

I do think she genuinely panicked there. But it was a huge mistep. (If she is guilty.)

It was a huge misstep, even if she is innocent. IMO

*I'm not even sure panicked is the right emotion. Trying to pin it down in my mind...

Yah, I'm not sure it was actually 'panic' either. It sounded more like she was intentional, oppositional, determined to get some distance so she could finish up some important tasks.

I think that when she heard the doctor say 'suspected mushroom poisoning' her wheels started turning and she knew she needed to get out of there fast so she could tie up some loose ends.

Maybe she was more shocked and surprised than panicked?

 

[katydid23]

That and the fact that she refused to bring in her children for assessment even though the doctors felt they could be in danger. By that time, her lunch guests were in a coma. It shows IMO that she knew very well her kids weren't in danger because they hadn't had the poisoned leftover from the lunch.

Yes, being so resistant to bringing in the children was a big red flag, imo.

Her answer to the nurses, doctors and to Dr R, that " they didn't eat the mushrooms so they are fine" just doesn't make sense. Wouldn't a mother be so worried and concerned that their children had eaten SOME of that poisoned meal that they'd bring them in for an examination, just to be certain?

The kids had eaten the leftovers one day after the lunch guests had eaten the meal so it was possible they were about to get sick. And the 4 lunch guests were severely ill. It's hard to understand why EP was so stubborn and resistant to just having the kids checked out.

Especially if EP was being truthful about her own 'illness symptoms' she claimed she was experiencing.

EVEN IF she had accidentally served foraged death cap mushrooms, she'd still be frightened and worried that her children had accidentally ingested some when they ate the meat.

She supposedly thought the mushrooms were safe and edible when she scraped off the mushrooms for her kid's leftovers. So how carefully did she really do that scraping? How was she instantly so certain that her kids had not ingested any death cap residue from meat that was cooked WITH the death caps paste on top of it?

 

[MrJ]

I'm sorry all, trying not to break sub judice in my posts. I'm exhausted by EP. Whether innocent or guilty, splitting hairs with regards to prosecution questions is rather annoying

 

[MaxDecimus13]

I've said for some time that I think there is a chance that Erin is innocent, but that she has lied to try and make her story sound better, and it is these lies that will ultimately send her down.

For instance, she knows she has put foraged mushrooms in and realises early on that these are DC mushrooms in, but lies to make it look like she got them unknowingly from an Asian grocer and therefore it wasnt really her fault. An obvious lie.

After the Asian grocer story can't be sustained, she tries to make it sound like she probably put them in in a way that would mean she didn't realise until a few days later and therefore she wasn't misleading anyone at the time. Doesn't sound believable and some evidence makes it seem unlikely.

She realises it looks bad that only she has not developed severe symptoms, so she lies that the kids had leftovers and didn't get symptoms either. This ends up looking like an obvious lie too.

She has been caught out trying to pretend she has cancer for sympathy or manipulation, and out of embarrassment concocts a story about a gastric band. This again ends up being found out as a lie.

The jury end up seeing the lies and seeing guilt in the sheer amount of them when it is just a disastrous attempt to make herself look better.

The alternative of course is that she is lying to cover her actual guilt, which is it hard to argue against when you see the sheer amount of unlikely scenarios.

 

[Tricia]

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