Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

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Rage to get back at her ex-husband. It's his family she wiped out and now he has to live with the grief. That's her motive as I see it. Plus, they weren't siding with her in her battle(s) with him.
Also her blaming him in her testimony. Calling him abusive and controlling. It sounds as though she even weaponised their* kids against him. I think there was a deep sense of rage and even rejection she felt. Also since she didn't really have any family left she got codependent around them, and when they didn't side with her unquestioningly unlike her Facebook friends, she probably felt personally affronted and that probably snowballed things. all IMO
 
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True. The problem for the defence though, IMO, is that if it was truly accidental, then she and her kids, and probably her dog too, would have also been poisoned.

She ate about the same amount of the 'accidentally poisoned' meal as Gail did. Even if EP had stuffed herself with cake and brought it back up later----that still left several hours for the Death Caps to enter her blood stream and her digestive track. And begin doing major damage.

I don't think there was any convincing evidence shown that EP suffered any health setbacks after she ate her meal. The only 'evidence' of her being unwell is her own description.

If she truly fed her children leftover meat that had been cooking in the oven with Death Cap paste on top of it, scraping off the mushrooms would not have prevented them from severe illness.

So 'accidental' does not ring true for me. If she thought that meal was 'safe', her Labrador would have been given those leftover meat scraps that night, IMO.

It is just too hard for me to believe that Death Caps were accidentally added to that elegant meal, and somehow the ONLY people who were deathly ill were her invited guests.
It really defies belief that she, her kids and her dog somehow avoided the poisonous mushrooms which were mixed in with the safe ones. The DC is extremely toxic and just one can kill several people. Unlike the usual way of serving Beef Wellington, which is to use one large filet which is then sliced for serving, instead she made minis, one for each guest. This meant wrapping each one in puff pastry individually, but normally a cook would make one batch of sauteed mushrooms for the duxelle which would then be spread among each mini. If she did it that way, every mini would have some of the DC mushrooms. To avoid that, she would have to cook two batches separately, one with DCs and one without.
 
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It really defies belief that she, her kids and her dog somehow avoided the poisonous mushrooms which were mixed in with the safe ones. The DC is extremely toxic and just one can kill several people. Unlike the usual way of serving Beef Wellington, which is to use one large filet which is then sliced for serving, instead she made minis, one for each guest. This meant wrapping each one in puff pastry individually, but normally a cook would make one batch of sauteed mushrooms for the duxelle which would then be spread among each mini. If she did it that way, every mini would have some of the DC mushrooms. To avoid that, she would have to cook two batches separately, one with DCs and one without.
Well of course it seems obvious that there was a 2nd batch somewhere either without mushrooms, or at least without the Death Caps. She probably made that one first. She served her kids her batch which was non-toxic.
 
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Apparently Erin is going to be finishing up with her counsel this morning. I wonder what they choose to close on? They have to end it with something powerful and positive. What will it be?

Maybe they will try to clarify why it took her so long to admit to foraging?
 
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It really defies belief that she, her kids and her dog somehow avoided the poisonous mushrooms which were mixed in with the safe ones. The DC is extremely toxic and just one can kill several people. Unlike the usual way of serving Beef Wellington, which is to use one large filet which is then sliced for serving, instead she made minis, one for each guest. This meant wrapping each one in puff pastry individually, but normally a cook would make one batch of sauteed mushrooms for the duxelle which would then be spread among each mini. If she did it that way, every mini would have some of the DC mushrooms. To avoid that, she would have to cook two batches separately, one with DCs and one without.
EXACTLY. That^^^ is a big problem for her.

She had already admitted earlier that she ate 'about half' of her BW. The same amount as Gail, who became severely ill on the same night as the luncheon. By Monday night Gail was deteriorating rapidly. By Tuesday her organs were shutting down.

At that same time Erin was 'feeling much better.' After some Imodium and herb tea she was good to go. Her lunch guests were intubated and in induced comas.
 
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EXACTLY. That^^^ is a big problem for her.

She had already admitted earlier that she ate 'about half' of her BW. The same amount as Gail, who became severely ill on the same night as the luncheon. By Monday night Gail was deteriorating rapidly. By Tuesday her organs were shutting down.

At that same time Erin was 'feeling much better.' After some Imodium and herb tea she was good to go. Her lunch guests were intubated and in induced comas.
And don't forget, drinking coffee, which is both acidic and a diuretic. Not what you want to ingest if you've really been vomiting/had diarhhea.
 
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"Erin Patterson will resume giving evidence in her murder trial shortly after today's proceedings kick off at 10.30am.

Lead defence barrister Colin Mandy SC is expected to finish questioning his client before the prosecution lead by Dr Nanette Rogers SC will have an opportunity to cross-examine the accused killer.

A crowd started to gather outside Morwell Court, a small regional courthouse about two hours east of Melbourne, from 7am with people eager to see Patterson give evidence."

 
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"Erin Patterson will resume giving evidence in her murder trial shortly after today's proceedings kick off at 10.30am.

Lead defence barrister Colin Mandy SC is expected to finish questioning his client before the prosecution lead by Dr Nanette Rogers SC will have an opportunity to cross-examine the accused killer.

A crowd started to gather outside Morwell Court, a small regional courthouse about two hours east of Melbourne, from 7am with people eager to see Patterson give evidence."

Thank you. I've been anxiously waiting for the start time today...
 
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She’s barely treading water with her defence questioning her. Going to be a disaster in cross. I cannot wait
 
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Thank you. I've been anxiously waiting for the start time today...

Just about an hour from now. Subject to the usual delays, of course. :)
 
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