Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #3

[CityKid]

Admin, please delete if not allowed. Both Erin and Simon both still follow each other on Instagram.

Simon follows BOTH of Erin’s accounts.

Presumably they are still friendly or on good terms. Wouldn’t you unfollow if you didn’t want to continue a friendship with the person or there was a lot of animosity in a relationship or friendship?

All imo.

Not necessarily. I might just ignore, or mute, rather than doing something like unfollow that the other person could notice.

 

[Ellery84]

So let me get this straight because I’m confused by the entire concept of She can’t be guilty because he follows her on instagram?


This seems like one hell of a stretch to me.

Mooo

Who suggested that she can’t be guilty because he follows her on Instagram? That’s a very long bow to draw, imo.

She may very well be guilty of poisoning, I’m not sure.

 

[bearbear]

So let me get this straight because I’m confused by the entire concept of She can’t be guilty because he follows her on instagram?


This seems like one hell of a stretch to me.

Mooo

of course not, just that they may still be friends after their separation

I’m not sure but here is the link to the upcoming television program “investigating” this case: UNDER INVESTIGATION with LIZ HAYES returns to expose what happened at that mushroom lunch

no i was just being silly, they both seem to be always giving their opinion on any crime cases on tv

 

[Salah11]

of course not, just that they may still be friends after their separation



no i was just being silly, they both seem to be always giving their opinion on any crime cases on tv

Safe to say they are now not friends considering he thinks she poisoned him and his family.

 

[Kittybunny]

I decided to dive into this thread just a little bit ago, had no idea what I was getting into!

I realize we don't have all the evidence, of course, but I'm definitely finding EP and her actions highly suspicious.

I also find it interesting that so many people seem willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, whereas I think if she was a man accused of attempting this sort of thing, I don't think that would be the case. And they do say poison is a woman's weapon.

As for motive, I do believe it's likely financial, custodial, and revenge. I surmise that if Simon and her were only separated, perhaps he was asking for a divorce, so he could move on to the next relationship. A divorce would be final, and if she is the one who had more assets, she would have to share them with him potentially (I do not know Australian law on this though, but in the US, it varies from state to state, but there could definitely be a situation where he would be entitled to 50% of all her assets) and perhaps a different custody arrangement.

It could also be revenge. "You left me, if I can't have you no one will". And then when he didn't show up, she decided to inflict pain on him in a different way.

There was a recent case in the US where the husband shot the kids right in front of the mother because she was going to leave him. He didn't kill her, but he did kill the children knowing the pain it would cause her for the rest of her life.

This is an unusual situation, no doubt, because it involves the in-laws. But if she saw them as influencing him to not get back together with her, then that definitely could be motive. And anyway trying to ascribe rational motives to murderers, is always almost an exercise in futility.

Have they said how long toxicology is expected to take?

 

[SMK777]

maybe, if she is guilty, she just wanted to harm them a little,for whatever reason,not kill them?

Death cap mushrooms are known to be highly toxic and fatal even in small doses.

 

[Chelly]

It’s definitely hard to believe anyone would ever expect to get away with it, and even less so with no pre-considered cover story. One of those cases that doesn’t really make sense whatever way you look at it, so far!

Possibly she didn't realize the potency of the mushrooms and just wanted them to become sick. Their deaths may have come as a surprise to her.

 

[jjenny]

Possibly she didn't realize the potency of the mushrooms and just wanted them to become sick. Their deaths may have come as a surprise to her.

That's very unlikely considering death cap is known to be highly toxic and people in the area are warned not to pick these mushrooms.

 

[SMK777]

Possibly she didn't realize the potency of the mushrooms and just wanted them to become sick. Their deaths may have come as a surprise to her.

I don’t think so, because she was an experienced forager and the death caps are known to be extremely dangerous and fatal for everyone.

 

[Chelly]

I don’t think so, because she was an experienced forager and the death caps are known to be extremely dangerous and fatal for everyone.

Good explanation. Thanks!

 

[jepop]

Safe to say they are now not friends considering he thinks she poisoned him and his family.

That is still only "reportedly". Moo

 

[kittythehare]

Yes, I agree with you. I don't think MSM would entirely make up a source and then make up that source's statement. IMO "SP's friend" has somehow been able to convince MSM that he/she is indeed SP's friend (although the source is unverified), and has then provided a statement (or two...or three...) MOO

hmmm.

 

[Salah11]

That is still only "reportedly". Moo

Mushroom cook Erin Patterson admits lying to the police about beef wellington lunch and reveals her husband accused her of poisoning his parents.


So came straight from the horses mouth

 

[SMK777]

That is still only "reportedly". Moo

 

[jepop]

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Right, I was only referring to the notion that he thinks she poisoned him (in 2022). That is according to his friend's communications to Msm, reportedly.

Was responding to this
"Safe to say they are now not friends considering he thinks she poisoned him and his family."

I missed the family bit at the bottom. I've read that part of EP's statement and believe it is true. Moo

 

[jepop]

Mushroom cook Erin Patterson admits lying to the police about beef wellington lunch and reveals her husband accused her of poisoning his parents.


So came straight from the horses mouth

RE his accusation re poisoning his family, yes, I know and I believe her: he said that to her at the hospital infront of their children. I was referring to the comment "Safe to say they are now not friends considering he thinks she poisoned him ..." Didn't see the words "and his family" at the end there. Whoops.

 

[JBowie]

I’m not sure but here is the link to the upcoming television program “investigating” this case: UNDER INVESTIGATION with LIZ HAYES returns to expose what happened at that mushroom lunch

Oh, thank goodness someone is finally going to "expose" what happened.

Given that the police are saying nothing, and EP has gone quiet, and SP has said nothing, and the survivor is presumably too ill to talk to the media, I'll be intrigued to know who the exposer is (pardon my sarcasm).

 

[al66pine]

Why Suppose Mushrooms Were Foraged?

That’s it don’t understand why people are claiming they are foraged as she has never once claimed that as her story.

@Salah11
EP publicly admitted lying to LE on one point (or more? and made hinky-dinky sounding stmts), so some posters, including me, would not be surprised to learn that she foraged the mushrooms but simply has not admitted it.

[ETA: I don't know if anyone is absolutely, positively CONVINCED that EP foraged the death caps, either purposely or by accident, but imo some are CONSIDERING it as a possibility.]

Personally am considering multiple possibilities re various
factors here. In absence of LE stmts on many of thise factors, I'm not convinced of anything on those points.

 

[Charlot123]

Theodore Woodward once said, “When you hear hoofbeats behind you, don't expect to see a zebra.”

Another way to put this is 'when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.’

What is more common? What is more likely to have happened?

Unless you are in Africa, or Highway 1, California.

Why California has wild zebras

The California zebras were originally part of the Hearst Castle private zoo. Now they roam the San Simeon grasslands, growing in numbers.

bigthink.com

What I want to say, context matters.

This story is fantastically interesting because if is almost a "locked room mystery". Five people are served Beef Wellington, four are poisoned, one OK. Who is the poisoner?

Only we don't know the situation- at all.
What was the poison? Where did they stay before? What was said to the EMTs? Etc, etc.

 

[Charlot123]

You would think being a grown man he was in the process of burying loved ones and not thinking about unfollowing his Ex Wife on a social media app?!


Of course just My Opinion

We don't know about the burial. Maybe it is delayed because of poisoning. But of course, his hands are full anyhow. I wouldn't unfollow in this situation, precisely. Following doesn't only mean, friends.