GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #17

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  • #741
I realize they have lost their mother, to a degree, but I'm relieved for her children in one regard: she seems like the person who would have taken their truth-telling as betrayal. She even called them as much as liars on the stand. If she hadn't gotten a guilty verdict, it chills me to think of how she may have turned against them over it.
 
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  • #743
Agree, it really didn't help their case
She had to though, in order to explain the 9 sec visit to the toilet at the servo and make up the vomiting after the meal narrative
 
  • #744
To believe the defense's version of events, you'd have to accept that Erin suffered the most improbable set of coincidences ever. She somehow managed to be the sole unaffected person at the lunch yet all the circumstances made her appear incredibly guilty.
Yeah, and that EVERYONE else is a liar or mistaken, but Erin.
 
  • #745
So glad so many people including Ian and The other Victims’ families can get some level of closure. Doesn’t change the heinous impact this woman has had on their lives. Best wishes to all here for some closure too for what it can provide. There will be an Appeal but unlike some other cases, I really hope the weight of evidence works in favour of the jury verdict.
 
  • #746
I've been saying this since the beginning. I also think she probably has a history of hurting pets and other animals. I also wonder if there's any odd fires she was connected to.

Although the amateur psychologist in me sees the behavior pattern of a covert narcissist, I don't get the impression that she has those attributes which are often attributed to psychopaths.

Narcissists hold deep grudges and react strongly to slights -- real or imagined.

Psychopaths just enjoy inflicting pain on others for the sake of it.
 
  • #747
GUILTY!!

😍

Thankyou jury xxxx
Well dang, I missed it watching a boring documentary. So happy with the verdict and pray for everyone affected by the fatal lunch. Has sentencing been scheduled? Thank you everyone for all the updates and conversation during this trial.
 
  • #748
Evil in our midst: Jury finds Erin Patterson guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty


During the 10-week trial, the court heard from 53 witnesses, viewed 125 exhibits and run up almost 4000 pages of transcripts.
 
  • #749
It is, but it likely leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those around Leongatha. There should be no shame in it, but there will be stigma. To be fair, changing their names and moving interstate would not be a crazy move for their future.

I agree there will be stigma - those poor kids.
 
  • #750
Although the amateur psychologist in me sees the behavior pattern of a covert narcissist, I don't get the impression that she has those attributes which are often attributed to psychopaths.

Narcissists hold deep grudges and react strongly to slights -- real or imagined.

Psychopaths just enjoy inflicting pain on other for the sake of it.
I think Erin held onto the grudges against Simon's family long after the angry texts that she was done with them. Narcissistic injury I think is the correct term. They perceive slights even where there are none. But this undoubtedly wasn't her first attempt at harming someone...
 
  • #751
A collective massive sigh of relief from everyone (rational) round the world, for all of us who’ve been following this trial from the time of the four victims still battling for their lives, to THE KILLER’s arrest, crocodile tears to the camera, as each piece of evidence unfolded to the wild twist of her taking the stand, watching with jaws on the floor at her outlandish egregious lies being exposed, held our breaths for a week as the jury deliberated, to letting out a cheer as she is served with the justice she arrogantly believed she would get away with

My thoughts and tears go out to Gail, Don and Heather who suffered an agonising prolonged death, slowly realising they were dying as the others passed away one by one, suspicion creeping in that this was no accident, by someone they’d only ever been kind to and loved.

To Ian, who miraculously pulled through such grave illness from the brink of death, waking up to be told his beloved wife, brother and sister-in-law, and to Simon who had to sit and watch helplessly as they his mother, aunt and uncle got sicker and sicker and died. They both now have their own life sentences of pain, survivors guilt and wondering who the hell they loved (and married in Simon’s case), unimaginable disbelief and horror knowing that this pain, suffering and loss was inflicted deliberately.

And lastly to the poor children, who have to live knowing their own mother who attempted to rip away the five closest and only members of their immediate family, causing the loss of three of them. They will struggle with trust their whole lives after seeing their mother, the one person they trusted with their lives to keep them safe, not only violate that trust by tricking them by slyly slipping food they didn’t like into baked treats, but then gloating to them and to her online friends about the deceit. all under the guise of caring for them by giving them more nutrients, but all along actually using them as guinea pigs for her evil plot. They’ve had to sit as she called Simon, Ian, and Heather, nurses, doctors, liars and even thrown THEM under the bus, gaslighting them saying their testimonies they bravely made in fear, were “remembered wrongly” too.

They now know their mother maliciously killed three caring, beloved elder members, leaving one devastated grandparent, and would have murdered their dad too if she had her way, leaving them with nobody but her. Thank god Simon started finding the strength to say no to her, and they are now out of her clutches and still have their loving dad and grandfather. And now she has left them without a mother too.

No amount of years served in prison will bring the family back, or undo the immense damage she has caused. I only hope the remaining survivors manage to find some semblance of peace, and take comfort in each other’s love.

And all this destruction, pain and suffering to six completely innocent souls, for no other reason but a petty, evil, woman, with a narcissistic wound to her vast, self-absorbed, selfish ego, caused by nothing more than the mildest distancing THAT IS A NORMAL “THAT’S LIFE” HAPPENING in a dissolving relationship.

I hope this unconscionable excuse of a woman has the life she deserves.

Lastly thank you all, sleuths, for everyone’s contribution, for every single comment, question, answers and commentary filled with curiosity, insight and knowledge plus respect of the process, the victims and each other. I live a very lonely life with chronic pain that’s left me housebound, I don’t talk to anyone for days on end, and having this community gives me human connection I’d not have if I only had sterile news articles.

But sorry for the me-rail! I’m now going to log off, get a glass of wine, light a candle and have a quiet reflection while I process, pay thought to the victims, find ten things I’m grateful for today, two of which will be my life, and “there but for the grace of god go I”, because every case I read shows you never really truly know what someone you trust is capable of.
 
  • #752
It was such a feminine murder..... either it was Erin, or it was some other woman... The gathering of the mushrooms, the recipe hunting to incorporate mushrooms into a meal for guests . the preparation , drying the mushrooms , the rolling out of the puff pastry , folding the mushrooms around the fillet steak..... setting the table, sending out the invitations, choosing the plates, serving it up ..... waiting for the effect to take place ( I have no doubt she waiting for the call to say her chosen victims were ill ) no bloke would be bothered, he'd just hit them over the head ..

A correct verdict, and because she pled not guilty , she gets no discount on her sentence.. Pleading guilty gets you a 15% discount.. Erin gambled on her belief that she was terrifically persuasive, she'd probably believed this all her ridiculous life.
Ah Troops, good to see you pop in .
 
  • #753
Outside court, Patterson’s close friend Ali Prior was mobbed by cameras, but refused to answer any questions.

Do you know this person?
EP's friend and POA
 
  • #754
To believe the defense's version of events, you'd have to accept that Erin suffered the most improbable set of coincidences ever. She somehow managed to be the sole unaffected person at the lunch yet all the circumstances made her appear incredibly guilty.

I always said to not be guilty she needed an incredible amount of coincidences.

However, the worst of these IMO they didn't have access to.

Ultimately, the web of lies meant the jury were able to get past any possible doubts.
 
  • #755
I always said to not be guilty she needed an incredible amount of coincidences.

However, the worst of these IMO they didn't have access to.

Ultimately, the web of lies meant the jury were able to get past any possible doubts.

This mass murder event is only the start of how the public know Erin. There is much much much more from her background which the jury never got to see. She's clearly ASPD, IMO.
 
  • #756
Well done to the jury - for it to be unanimous was a tough ask - but well done to them for achieving this.
 
  • #757
The thread title has finally been changed to reflect the verdict. So are we still under sub judice?
 
  • #758
From the Supreme Court of Victoria

Sub judice contempt

Concerns material which may interfere with or prejudice legal proceedings, especially a jury trial. If a person plead guilty or is found guilty, sub judice contempt is no longer an issue, but suppression orders may remain in force.

 
  • #759
Victoria Police just reported on Channel 7.
Chanel 7 news initially reported the case.

The chief detective will soon report here, on channel 7.
If others can, check channel 7.

It will take 2 hours to get her, in a prison van, to her prison.
She had been in a protection centre, as prisoners treat people who hurt children, or elderly, BADLY.

BOTH Simon and Ian Wilkinson were not present in court.

Can watch channel 7 here.

 
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