GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #17

[mamamama9873]

Wow, just wow. Thank you for sharing. Note the tennis court nearby too.

I get that prisoners need excercise, fresh air and something to pass their free time, but c'mon! The aerial shots make it look like a resort I might consider staying at for some R&R. And this is a MAXIMUM security prison. Not happy Jan!

(For those of us who aren't Australians, C'mon is a shortened way of saying Come On, like you might question something by saying Really? Not Happy Jan was from a commercial in 2000 referencing displeasure, and has become part of the vocabulary as a result. Check out Youtube for a clip of the ad if interested)

That is ridiculous, a swimming pool seriously?! For murderers? The tax payer (us!!) pays for it, wt?!

 

[L_B]

I saw this elsewhere, someone saying that the interview the doctor did calling her a sociopath etc, that the defense can use this as part of making an appeal... Is this possible or not?

 

[al66pine]

Previous Poisonings.

At pre-trial hearing, Simon explained multiple suspected poisoning attempts, w the first involving ingredients stored in a Tupperware container.*
At trial, we learned the dodgy dehydrated mushrooms were stored in a Tupperware container.

Wrongful Conviction? Blame it on Tupperware?/ s

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* Alleged previous poisoning. "November 2021... Erin fed him ‘penne pasta Bolognese,’ from a Tupperware container in the fridge... vomiting the following morning,... admitted to hospital... impending kidney failure. After five days on a drip..." discharged.
sbm ibm Editted for Aussie legal reasons.

https://archive.md/2025.07.07-132416/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14881551/shocking-secret-mushroom-killer-kept-Australia-GUY-ADAMS-reveals-sensational-truth-trial-rocked-nation.html

@jake TYVM for this ^ link.

 

[Porky1]

The word cult has come up in several previous posts. What were this group’s interests or beliefs? Although it has been stated Erin is highly intelligent, I find it difficult to believe she has the social skills to endear herself to others and have a following of sorts. Can someone fill in the gaps I am obviously missing for it to make more sense please.

I think the cult like comments are likely a personal attack rather than based on actual knowledge of EP belonging to something akin to a cult.

It seems that there are some that share an experience, some kind of acquaintance or relationship in the past with EP. While it might be the case, unfortunately it also provided an opportunity for people to embellish their experience or blame others for their history, it might be 5 mins claim to fame perhaps. I can’t help to feel suspicious. The more people are hell bent on tearing people down, I can’t help to wonder what they’re hiding that may have contributed to their bitterness.

 

[Tortoise]

I agree without toxicology evidence it would have been very hard to prove anything with the hospital presentations. Especially as the last - with paralysis and seizures was dissimilar to the gastro-type ones.

Even if he’d decided to get the cookies tested, how would that work? Do you just turn up to the police and say you think they contain poison, or maybe go to a private toxicology lab?

And what do you ask them to test for? Is there a sort of plant-toxin series or “poisons found at home that can be baked in food” panel?

I think it’s likely she did poison him, but so hard to prove

I agree with the decision to keep out the historic incidents.

However, EP admitted that she would have served Simon the sixth pasty in the bin had he shown up as invited, and it contained death caps. Whether she would have admitted that if she had still been charged with his attempted murder I don't know. But I do think the charge of attempted murder on that occasion should not have been disallowed in this trial, or dropped by the prosecution. It would have given the prosecution more latitude to argue motive, not because they need to have one, but to make it make sense. Maybe the other victims, particularly Heather and Ian, were invited to make Simon feel safe, or to coerce Simon to accept, and it would show the lengths she was prepared to go to to make it look more like an accident, as opposed to just Simon being invited on his own and dying.

Attempted murder law allows the charge even if the murder would have been impossible because he didn't attend the lunch.

 

[LadyL]

Are we allowed to use Dr. Webster's quote in our signatures? Asking for a friend...

they're all heroes in the hospitals but I think I fell in love with him when I read that quote lol

 

[mamamama9873]

trying to do what?
it's not like they have any choice about the rules in there

In my opinion, the only thing convicted murderers should be able to earn through good behaviour is time outside their cells - in a secure courtyard. Access to luxuries like a swimming pool and a tennis court? Absolutely not. Their victims no longer draw a single breath - they had their lives taken away and don’t get any privileges, so why should their killers??

 

[Sarahlou]

they're all heroes in the hospitals but I think I fell in love with him when I read that quote lol

A man who knows a monster when he sees it. Not afraid to be honest about it too.

 

[Porky1]

It’s absolutely crazy to think if her original plan had worked her children would have been fatherless with her rotting away in jail.

Just imagine wanting to put your children though such god awful pain.

That’s been a sticking point for me. It’s hard to imagine anyone doing that to the kids. She doesn’t sound like she is a delinquent mother.

 

[Moll]

I saw this elsewhere, someone saying that the interview the doctor did calling her a sociopath etc, that the defense can use this as part of making an appeal... Is this possible or not?

How? He didn't say it during the trial.

 

[LadyL]

The astonishing admission that almost derailed Erin Patterson’s trial

The revelation came during Simon Patterson’s time on the stand.

7news.com.au

Simon Patterson’s astonishing admission that almost derailed Erin Patterson’s trial​

The revelation came during Simon Patterson’s time on the stand.

“There is a matter I need to raise with you in the absence of the jury,” Justice Beale said to Patterson, as the court resumed following a lunch break.

“I made certain assumptions and I just want to confirm that those assumptions are correct.

“The spouse of an accused person has a right to object to giving evidence. I’ve assumed, that, from the history of this matter, you’ve been informed of that right previously and were willing to give evidence nonetheless.

“Now, are those assumptions correct?”

Simon responded “no”, prompting quiet gasps from members of the media.

Justice Beale offered Simon the opportunity to have some time to consider whether he was still willing to participate, but the father-of-two said he was happy to proceed.

“I’m willing to give evidence,” he said.

“I think if I had of been offered that before, I still would have said the same thing. I’m quite comfortable about that.”

whattttttttttt - no one from the prosecution told him that???

 

[katydid23]

But they were able to use her visits to the inaturalist site? When the user was equally ambiguous?

However, minutes later she ordered a family meal from a pub. And she said the children did not order that meal. Seems obvious it was her.

I think that^^^ is the reason they could pin that visit to that site on Erin.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

More from DM​

Read mushroom murderer Erin Patterson’s savage hate-filled texts about her own mother - whose death made her a multi-millionaire and gave her the home where she served up her deadly beef Wellington lunch​

• Death cap mushroom murderer's secret texts to friend revealed
• Hateful about mother but excited about inheriting millions

Secret text messages sent by Erin Patterson reveal how she hated her own 'alcoholic' mother, but was delighted by the millions she inherited after her death.


Patterson used the cash to buy land for her 'forever' home at Leongatha, 140km southeast of Melbourne, where she hosted her deadly beef Wellington lunch

Her candid texts to her friend, obtained by Daily Mail Australia, can finally be revealed after she was convicted of killing her parents-in-law, her husband's aunt, and attempting to murder her husband's uncle.

In Patterson's texts after her own mother's death, she spoke disparagingly of both her parents, but was thrilled to be inheriting half her mum's wealth.

Patterson sent the brutal texts in May 2019 while she was clearing out her mother's house in the NSW south coast town of Eden.

In the no-holds-barred messages, she called her father, who died in 2011, 'a doormat' and said her mother was a 'cold alcoholic'.

She also said her own childhood had been 'like being brought up in a Russian orphanage where they don't touch babies'.

But Patterson was jubilant about her inheritance from her mother's estate which let her buy the land to build her dream home where she later committed mass murder.

Sending her friend a link to the land sale, she texted: 'I bought this today. Literally so excited I can't breathe!!!

'I've been eyeing off that block for months. I have inspected it fifteen times!

'It's been a dream to build all my life and can only do it thanks to mum's house selling. Silver lining to her passing!'

Patterson said she had a 'notebook full of sketches of house layouts I've been drawing for years' and was 'going to build on it ASAP'.

While Patterson was depicted as a loner during her trial, she had online friends in Facebook groups devoted to true crime and notorious baby killer Keli Lane.

Patterson posted photos of the books she cleared out of her mother's home following Dr Scutter's death, insisting she 'loves books' and 'spent my childhood reading in my room'.

She also disclosed that 'my mum was ultra weird her whole life'.



Erin's post on buying the land on which the murder house was built, just after inheriting her mother's fortune made her 'so excited I can't breathe'

Erin's text after clearing out books from her mother's Eden house, which she then packed into a van and drove back to Victoria before building the house where she committed mass murder

Stunning oceanfront house Erin Patterson inherited after her mother died in 2019, which helped fund the house at Leongatha she built and in which she then hosted the murder lunch
She added: 'We had a horrible upbringing. Mum was essentially a cold robot.

'Dad wanted to be warm and loving to us but mum wouldn't let him because it would spoil us so he did what he was told.

'She would shout at him if he did the wrong thing so he became very meek and compliant.

'Mum was actually a really hard person to love and made my life tough growing up, but you still feel the loss in spite of the difficulties.'





Patterson and her sister Ceinwen Scutter inherited their parents' oceanfront property, and money for property investments to make Patterson independently wealthy.

They grew up in the Melbourne suburb of Glen Waverley, the daughters of parents, government worker Eitan Scutter and Dr Heather Scutter, a Monash University lecturer in 19th-century adult literature and a renowned children's literature academic.

When the Scutters retired in 2009, they moved from Victoria to the stunning Eden property, on the clifftop above Aslings Beach overlooking the Pacific Ocean.

Heather Scutter became ill with cancer, eventually dying in 2019, although in her texts, Patterson claimed she died from excessive alcohol.

'My sister and I would hide in our rooms most of the time,' she posted. 'Mum was a massive drinker.


The victims: Don and Gail Patterson, the parents of Erin's estranged husband, Simon, (top) and Simon's aunt Heather Wilkinson, all of whom died with Ian Wilkison (bottom, right) the only survivor

Erin Patterson, 50, at the death house before her arrest on three counts of murder and one of attempted murder

The living room at Leongatha where the four guests ate the poisoned meal which killed three of them, Ian Wilkinson only surviving after drastic transplant surgery

Forensic samples of the fatal lunch show a layer of finely chopped mushrooms which tested positive to the Amanita toxin found in one of the world's most deadly plants served up by Erin Patterson (pictured, right, in her twenties)
'She drank herself to death. That's how she died. Drank herself into a coma.'

Following her mother's death and the inheritance of the Eden house, Erin Patterson built a two-storey house on the one-hectare block at Leongatha.

She lived at that house with her two children from her marriage to her now-estranged husband Simon Patterson, until her arrest on November 2, 2023.

Texting her friend four years earlier, Ms Patterson said: 'It's amazing, really closer to the town where my kids go to school but still feels like a bush block.'

Patterson had been so confident she would be found not guilty of murder that she had the Leongatha home covered in black plastic tarpaulins for privacy once the trial ended.

But since the guilty verdict, the future of that house is now in doubt with Patterson facing decades behind bars for the murders.

Her friend, Alison Rose Prior, who attended Patterson's murder trial as the killer's sole supporter, is believed to hold power of attorney over her assets and properties.

She will be sentenced at a later date.

Mushroom killer Erin Patterson's secret texts about family she hated

Secret text messages sent by Erin Patterson before the mass murders reveal how she hated her own 'alcoholic' mother but was overjoyed about the money she inherited.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MrJ]

the photo of the living room table makes my skin crawl.

 

[Old Soul]

More from Dr Webster on Erin’s behaviour in hospital:

He said her actions whilst there set off alarm bells in his mind as she sat down "not far from Ian and Heather".

"Erin sat in a chair and I don't even remember her looking in the direction of Ian and Heather Wilkinson … they weren't barriered, there were opened curtains on the cubicle," he said.

He said she lacked "any sort of expected normal human emotional response" to being in that situation.

"When people come through the doors that I led Erin through, they usually make a beeline for their [loved one]. They go straight to that bed and they embrace the loved one," he said.

BBM

Erin Patterson labelled 'evil' by doctor who came face-to-face with killer

A doctor who first alerted police to now convicted triple-murderer Erin Patterson describes the moment he grew suspicious of her.

www.abc.net.au

 

[LadyL]

Wow, these hospitalisations were really serious! Not just a touch of the well-known "Erin's Collywobbles"!

I'm learning so much Australian slang, some UK slang too on this thread.

• Collywobbles is a slang word for a stomachache or bellyache, possibly derived from cholera morbus by folk etymology. Learn more about its origin, usage, and related words from the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

 

[Sarahlou]

I wonder how long before their deaths Erin last saw her parents?

 

[Parker Knoll]

Next time I need a password I’m having ErinErinErin.
Lunatic.

 

[JBowie]

Her candid texts to her friend, obtained by Daily Mail Australia, can finally be revealed after she was convicted of killing her parents-in-law, her husband's aunt, and attempting to murder her husband's uncle.

[bbm]

Good old DM, inventing the news again.

Those messages calling her mother a cold robot have been published ages ago, for instance here back on November 21, 2023:

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/erin-patterson-shared-details-of-her-horrible-upbringing-in-revealing-2019-text-messages/news-story/64c964a2a37d52dd5193f5828beb94c2

 

[Deleted member 363451]

That’s been a sticking point for me. It’s hard to imagine anyone doing that to the kids. She doesn’t sound like she is a delinquent mother.

Really?