Australia Australia - Amesha Rajapakse, 31, Westmead, NSW, 26 Aug 2014

OK, this is a tech question, for any IT people out there!
Sometimes, particularly in the evenings, I've been noticing the websleuths page is particularly slow and the respective web browser tab keeps going through the 'Connecting...' motion every once in a while (regularly), even though I'm already connected.
When I look at the task bar at the bottom of the screen, I see information including 'waiting for...', transferring data from...' and 'connecting to...' a heap of (I don't know what you call the whole gamut of them), but one of them is 'dyldam.com'.
Dyldam bears a relationship to the Monarco complex, I think it may be the property manager or something like that.
What link could there possibly be between websleuths and dyldam??
Can anyone explain?

There are two posts on the first page of the thread, post #16 and post #17, that provide a link to Dyldam's website.

It is very possible that Dyldam have an analytical tool on their website that lets them monitor hotlinks to their website. These are sometimes set up to see if people are stealing their images and misrepresenting them as their own and such (which we don't do). Post #17 has an image from Dyldam's site.

See AWStats at this link ... http://www.sitepoint.com/10-web-analytics-packages-for-tracking-your-visitors/

Explanation of hotlinking ... http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotlinking


I'm no IT expert but am familiar with some things, and this is the only thing that I can think of - though I don't actually see that flipping through Dyldam myself, when I'm connecting to or refreshing this thread. Maybe different internet security programs/settings filter different things. :dunno: I have my privacy settings set really high (which is inconvenient sometimes) and delete cookies regularly.
 
It could just be because some link on some page here has been taken from something originally published on a Dyldam page or something along those lines, but as this level of IT is beyond me, I am curious!!



If you live at the Monarco Estate it could be your internet tower there. Maybe the location? Some sites say the suburb my iPad is pinging from.
 
A reminder guys...

Websleuths is a victim and family friendly site. The family are victims here as well. Until/unless police say something to change that we do not allow sleuthing or speculation of family members.

Please stick to the facts of the case as reported via media or police.
 
Just finished catching up -- and let me offer my welcome to the chorus, for those new members posting here. The insights into Lankan culture are incredibly helpful, thank you so much for them.

I think my main reason for surmising this was not a suicide is that I have a very hard time believing anyone would throw themselves into 3 feet of water and force themselves to stay under while they drown, when there's busy roads nearby, probably train tracks and also high buildings... Of course I have no insight into Amesha's mental workings, but if -I- was distraught and seeking a way out of life, it would NOT be making myself drown in freezing cold, shallow water after climbing a high fence in the rain, traversing a dark and scary place and negotiating thick plant life to get there... It all just seems a bit unfeasible to me, and very very undignified.

Now, if Amesha was *chased* so that she had to clamber that high fence and then run into the bushy creek area to save herself, okay, I can see that happening maybe.. which also would make sense of how she also ended up dead on the other side of that fence.

Or attacked, and somebody felt the powerful need to make her death look like a possible suicide..

Keshi, I believe we are sympatico, in regard to things which are not sitting easy with this case.

Does anyone know how the relationship between police and media works in some detail?
I note that from the outset, msm headlines stated that Amesha was found 'drowned'. On what basis would they have come up with that headline? Wouldn't police have chosen that form of expression? They could have just said that Amesha was found dead in the creek... Just strikes me that they seemed to think, immediately, she died in the water.
But then they (police) also said they needed autopsy results to determine cause of death/whether or not her death was suspicious. I took that as indicating that the autopsy results would somehow help them determine whether she drowned on her own or whether someone, effectively, held her under water to drown her. The drowning seemed a given, based on the headlines...
As to the significance of a scarf wrapped around her neck ... No idea really what the scarf being wrapped around her neck was meant to allude to... I don't usually think of scarves as being long enough to hang yourself with, and they did say it was wrapped around her neck, not tied... Besides, how could she have hung herself from a tree branch, if that branch was directly over the water??? Seems far too logistically complicated a scenario to me.
People upthread raised the point that there would be easier ways of committing suicide than drowning in a shallow creek, such as jumping from a balcony.
Not knowing the layout of their unit, we don't know if that would indeed have been possible, although it's natural to presume it would be...
Then I thought that if something just hit Amesha at that moment, where she felt she had to get out, she probably couldn't jump over the balcony for at least a few hours, with her father being at home. So perhaps the creek was Plan B...
 
I don’t think that police have said a heck of a lot to anyone. When I search through MSM, the only things that are attributed directly to statements from police are the following …

Police said her death was puzzling because of where her body was found but said there were no marks or obvious signs of injury on her body.

"The location she was found at was puzzling; it was hard to get to," a homicide detective said.
"But we really don't know one way or the other."

Police said they would not be able to determine what caused Ms Rajapakse's death until they received initial autopsy results on Thursday.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/scream-he...t-westmead-20140827-108z6w.html#ixzz3CFuQjKOU

None of the Daily Telegraph articles directly attribute anything to police statements - they just make statements and assumptions based on relatives actions/comments, neighbours, building manager, police actions, other info.

Same with news.com.au (Courier Mail, etc.)

And here are the two police media releases … nothing about drowning in them.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/l...vdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDAzODYuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ==

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/m...vdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDAzNzIuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ==
 
Then I thought that if something just hit Amesha at that moment, where she felt she had to get out, she probably couldn't jump over the balcony for at least a few hours, with her father being at home. So perhaps the creek was Plan B...


Maybe she was too afraid to jump off the balcony. Even if we decide to kill ourselves, I think we'd choose the least horrific way to end it all. It's a very personal decision. In most suicides, I have noticed it's males that die violent deaths such as balcony jump-offs, jumping in front of a train or shooting themselves. With female suicides its often by drowning, poisoning or hanging. That is what I have observed but I could be wrong.

I think people can kill themselves in ways we'd not be able to comprehend. It could be the same with Amesha. I think when the mind is disturbed it just doesn't plan things carefully or think through the cleverest, most logical or easiest of ways to die..it just goes and does whatever it takes to end the pain.

About the mentioning of the scarf, I too thought that was a bit odd. To mention it, it must have had a critical role to play in Amesha's death. Police won't release details until they are sure. But that scarf has been on my mind a lot. Also because she used a scarf to jam the door.

This is all too mysterious and silent it's actually disappointing that police hasn't even updated the neighbours because it's important for people in the neighbourhood to know it's not some thief or violent attacker in the vicinity that killed her. Does anyone in the block know anything more or heard from the police?
 
RSBM

Amesha may have suffered a depressive or paranoid disorder or something.
She didn't have friends only family.
That's sad.

I always thought of this one. Mental illness is feared and shunned in our culture. It's like an embarrassment and some families won't even seek help or counselling due to pride and shame issues. Even if Amesha was mentally ill, maybe they never saw a doctor for the reasons mentioned before? If that's the case it's extremely heartbreaking.

But the building manager or some other building personnel stated that she inquired about the gym and the pool recently. If she was suffering from a mental illness would she have done that?
 
Amesha's Obituary notice has just been released in Ozlanka:

http://www.ozlanka.com/2014/sep/amesha.html



ameshah.jpg
 
Thanks Keshi ... at least we know now that Amesha's body has been released by police.

And that Amesha's mum has passed away. And Amesha's full name.

A little more info toward our picture of this young woman who died far too soon.

:rose:
 
If the Police are processing the footage from 74 CCTV cameras, I think it will take a while. If they inspect, say, 2 weeks's worth of history of one Camera, even with fast forwarding and then re-playing and examining the parts of interest, it will take a few days per camera.

Given the close proximity to where the body was found, I was assuming that if this was a homicide, it (or at least the abduction) should have occurered within or near the apartment complex, therefore, at least one CCTV camera should have had the relevant footage. If the Police had encountered such evidence, they would have already made arrests or at least released photos of persons of interest.

Some media reports said that the victim had been reported missing earlier. I believe the family reported her missing to the Police when the victim failed to return home and was searching for her. I've heard that usually the Police give it a few days before taking action on 'Missing Persons' reports.
 
If the Police are processing the footage from 74 CCTV cameras, I think it will take a while. If they inspect, say, 2 weeks's worth of history of one Camera, even with fast forwarding and then re-playing and examining the parts of interest, it will take a few days per camera.

Given the close proximity to where the body was found, I was assuming that if this was a homicide, it (or at least the abduction) should have occurered within or near the apartment complex, therefore, at least one CCTV camera should have had the relevant footage. If the Police had encountered such evidence, they would have already made arrests or at least released photos of persons of interest.

Some media reports said that the victim had been reported missing earlier. I believe the family reported her missing to the Police when the victim failed to return home and was searching for her. I've heard that usually the Police give it a few days before taking action on 'Missing Persons' reports.

:welcome4: Surm


I'm starting to think again that it is a suicide. A theory I put forward earlier in the thread was that the deceased used the scarf tied on a branch of a tree for strangulation, she became unconscious, scarf slipped off branch or branch broke, she fell and rolled into creek, could not revive herself due to being unconscious, and drowned. jmo.
 
Thanks so much for finding that obituary, Keshi.
Just based on the silence from police, I'm leaning towards suicide. Trawling through that amount of cctv footage is a daunting task, even if they have an idea of who or what they might be looking for (and it's not to say they will find it recorded...), so in that instance I would still have thought they'd send out another appeal of some sort to the public for assistance - if they thought it was homicide.
Besides, we don't know if all the cameras were actually working properly or at all...
BUT ... ! ...
What strikes me on the obituary, is that date of death is noted as 27 August - that is the Wednesday on which she was found.
Is that common practice - to leave the date of death as being the date as that on which the victim was found??
I would have thought the autopsy results could have brought to light how many hours she might have been in the water for??
So, if the 27th August is really THE date on which she died, I wonder where she was for the remainder of Tuesday evening?
 
If the Police are processing the footage from 74 CCTV cameras, I think it will take a while. If they inspect, say, 2 weeks's worth of history of one Camera, even with fast forwarding and then re-playing and examining the parts of interest, it will take a few days per camera.

Given the close proximity to where the body was found, I was assuming that if this was a homicide, it (or at least the abduction) should have occurered within or near the apartment complex, therefore, at least one CCTV camera should have had the relevant footage. If the Police had encountered such evidence, they would have already made arrests or at least released photos of persons of interest.

Some media reports said that the victim had been reported missing earlier. I believe the family reported her missing to the Police when the victim failed to return home and was searching for her. I've heard that usually the Police give it a few days before taking action on 'Missing Persons' reports.

Hi Surm and welcome to Websleuths :)

Just wanted to clarify. Once a person is reported to police as missing and they're given the required info from relatives or friends about that person, a police alert and media release is issued immediately. Police don't "give it a few days before taking action"

And these days especially with the help of internet/social media the info about that missing person is spread far and wide quite rapidly.

http://www.missingpersons.gov.au/en/report-a-missing-person/filing-report/unit.aspx
 
What strikes me on the obituary, is that date of death is noted as 27 August - that is the Wednesday on which she was found.
Is that common practice - to leave the date of death as being the date as that on which the victim was found??

I would have thought the autopsy results could have brought to light how many hours she might have been in the water for??
So, if the 27th August is really THE date on which she died, I wonder where she was for the remainder of Tuesday evening?

RSBM
BBM: You would think that the date of death would be whatever is on the death certificate, wouldn't you? :thinking:

And the Coroner provides the death certificate details for reportable deaths (such as Amesha's).


[http://www.coroners.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/coroners/for_health_professionals.html
.
 
Hi Surm and welcome to Websleuths :)

Just wanted to clarify. Once a person is reported to police as missing and they're given the required info from relatives or friends about that person, a police alert and media release is issued immediately. Police don't "give it a few days before taking action"

And these days especially with the help of internet/social media the info about that missing person is spread far and wide quite rapidly.

http://www.missingpersons.gov.au/en/report-a-missing-person/filing-report/unit.aspx

Hi MarlyWings,

Thanks for the clarification. Is it possible to find the missing person media release for Amesha? I could not find it at the URL you listed or via a Google search. The time and content of the media release could shed more light on to this for us.

When (and IF) she had been reported missing, I wonder what actions the Police took apart from a police alert and a media release. For example, did the Police visit the apartment complex, check CCTV footage of the apartment complex and the shop she supposedly went to, talk to the residents of the apartment complex and inspect the vicinity? What I've heard before is that Police give it a few days before doing these because the majority of 'missing persons' return home within a few days and Police don't have enough resources for early intervention in every case.
 
... So, if Amesha committed were to have committed suicide by drowning - whether as a result of falling into the creek if she was trying to hang herself, or as a result of throwing herself into the water - it wouldn't have taken her until the next morning to drown, would it??
 
Hi MarlyWings,

Thanks for the clarification. Is it possible to find the missing person media release for Amesha? I could not find it at the URL you listed or via a Google search. The time and content of the media release could shed more light on to this for us.

When (and IF) she had been reported missing, I wonder what actions the Police took apart from a police alert and a media release. For example, did the Police visit the apartment complex, check CCTV footage of the apartment complex and the shop she supposedly went to, talk to the residents of the apartment complex and inspect the vicinity? What I've heard before is that Police give it a few days before doing these because the majority of 'missing persons' return home within a few days and Police don't have enough resources for early intervention in every case.

I've not seen a missing person report on Amesha. That doesn't mean there was or wasn't one. Family/friends can request it not be published. Perhaps she wasn't reported as missing at all.

All we do know, according to media reports, is this....

August 27, 2014

Detectives are trying to establish whether the woman had been reported missing days earlier.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/distraugh...mead-creek-20140827-108y4a.html#ixzz3BaHyQ4hO
 
My mums date of death was the day she was found. That wasn't the day she died.

Very sorry to hear about your mother Oddsocks. Was it a suicide? You don't have to answer this.

Was also wondering about the date and time on her death certificate...so was that date of death decided by the Coroner and/or police, and does the family get to have a say in it? If the autopsy could tell 'when' a person actually died, is there any reason why they'd not use that date, and instead use the date on which the body was found? I know there are laws associated with it all. I'm going to find out. Thanks
 

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