Australia Australia - Amesha Rajapakse, 31, Westmead, NSW, 26 Aug 2014

[MsAnais]

It is weird that there has been NO info released about whether it was suicide or murder. But I don't think that the silence necessarily means that it was suicide.....

....because I'm thinking about other cases on WS - such as Maddie West and Kylie Blackwood - and both of those women were violently killed but LE never came out and told the general public that they didn't need to be afraid of a random killer. (turns out Maddie was killed by her bf and Kylie's killer is still on the loose)

I just thought I'd mention that, as it seems like LE don't necessarily make those reassuring statements to the public.

I'm also wondering how difficult it is to determine with absolute certainty whether it was suicide or murder if it was a drowning?

 

[MsAnais]

Would so many Sri Lankan papers have published articles about Amesha's death if it was thought to be suicide? Although it seems that they are just re-publishing our articles.

Here is another one - the Hiru News this time. It has some reader comments underneath, but Google translate cannot seem to translate them .. perhaps a local dialect. Wish we could see what they say. :sigh:

http://www.hirunews.lk/90701/lankan-found-dead-in-sydney

I found that too, SouthAussie - and wished the exact same thing re translation!!!:gaah:

 

[MsAnais]

Just found this about drowning, which confirms that it is difficult to determine whether a drowning was murder if no obvious signs of struggle are on the body:


Drowning is difficult to prove beyond the accidental death stage simply because of the nature in which it happens. Proving that an unknown assailant in some way aided the death of another by drowning is difficult to establish and can usually only be established if there are physical wounds such as cuts or bruises or indeed if an eye witness has saw the event take place.

.....Indeed there may well be occasions when it proves difficult to establish whether or not the deceased was alive when they entered the water; this is because that even if an individual is deceased when they enter the water, providing the body remains submerged for a period of time, then the lungs will fill up anyway.

http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/drowning.html


Not that we even know if COD was drowning. The scarf around the neck suggests the possibility of strangulation. In that case, it's all very clear cut I would suspect.

 

[SouthAussie]

So how does one suicide in a creek, even a raging creek, where one can stand .. waist deep according to reports? Must be difficult to fight the urge to lift your head, especially when you keep floating to the top. It is not like people who wade then swim deep out into the ocean to die in such a manner.

Most common ways of suicide in Sri Lanka apparently are hanging, poison, jumping from height. Poor rural folk use poison due to the availability of agricultural poisons, apparently.


http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Sri_Lanka

http://www.srilankasumithrayo.org/statistics.html


(Not saying suicide is not the cause ... just seems unlikely to me, at this point.)

 

[MsAnais]

So how does one suicide in a creek, even a raging creek, where one can stand .. waist deep according to reports? Must be difficult to fight the urge to lift your head, especially when you keep floating to the top. It is not like people who wade then swim deep out into the ocean to die in such a manner.

Most common ways of suicide in Sri Lanka apparently are hanging, poison, jumping from height. Poor rural folk use poison due to the availability of agricultural poisons, apparently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Sri_Lanka

http://www.srilankasumithrayo.org/statistics.html

Not saying suicide is not the cause ... just seems unlikely to me, at this point.

bbm. Me too, SouthAussie.

 

[SouthAussie]

"Suicide by drowning is the act of deliberately submerging oneself in water or other liquid to prevent breathing and deprive the brain of oxygen. Due to the body's natural tendency to come up for air, drowning attempts often involve the use of a heavy object to overcome this reflex."

Was Amesha found under a heavy object, I wonder? And, if so, how did her brother find her? Especially in the half-light of the early morning (scream heard at 5:30-6:00am according to the building manager).


http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods

 

[Ausgirl]

I really do not think this was a suicide. I somehow can't see this woman jumping a fence and throwing herself into a shallow creek to drown. It doesn't gel in my mind, at all..

So, IMO, that leaves accident (maybe she was taking a shortcut and slipped), or foul play (which is where I'm headed with it so far, the loud scream is pretty telling, plus other things aren't adding up to anything else).

How many scarves was Amesha wearing that day? One jammed in the door,another around her throat in the creek.. and I agree with whoever raised the point that a suicide would not be concerned at all with getting back into her building..

Nope, this smells like murder to me.

 

[Oddsocks]

Was Amesha found under a heavy object, I wonder? And, if so, how did her brother find her? Especially in the half-light of the early morning (scream heard at 5:30-6:00am according to the building manager).


http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods

This is why I'm wondering if her brother could see over the fence from a balcony or something. I'm very suspicious and also getting a bit worried about the silence from police and media. Things have been happening too close to home then nothing.
Like Dane McNeill. No updates.

 

[fruity]

Hmm. So the news on TV said that her scarf was wrapped around her neck (insinuated she had been strangled) but I can't find much about this online.

 

[fruity]

She was reportedly found with a scarf around her neck in a swollen creek in a hard-to-get to area on the other side of a large wall.

http://colombogazette.com/2014/08/29/australia-police-probe-lankans-death/

 

[fruity]

A SCARF was found wrapped around the neck of a woman whose body was found beside a swollen creek in Western Sydney on Wednesday.

The grisly discovery of Amesha Rajapakse’s body at the rear of *Absolute Waterfront Apartments Monarco, Bridge Rd, Westmead, at 7.30am has triggered a homicide *investigation as Strike Force Mandaring try to piece *together her last movements.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r-just-a-mystery/story-fni0cx12-1227038411749

 

[fruity]

You would think there would be more details about this, imo.

 

[SouthAussie]

This is why I'm wondering if her brother could see over the fence from a balcony or something. I'm very suspicious and also getting a bit worried about the silence from police and media. Things have been happening too close to home then nothing.
Like Dane McNeill. No updates.

I was alarmed by the incident close by in Parramatta yesterday, where someone hit a woman sitting in her car over the head with a shovel, then stole her mobile phone. Made me wonder about Amesha. But Amesha's car made it back to the apartment complex (IF she drove it to the shops that night) and it would have taken some effort to get Amesha's body down to that creek to 'hide' it - through the mud and brambles.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/woman-bea...-in-attempted-carjacking-20140829-109t08.html

 

[Ausgirl]

Just from a quick read through the available msm reports, it seems Amesha was pacing about the foyer of her building on the Tuesday, around 7.30 pm for some reason, and may have been entering and exiting the building while doing so, because one report says she was 'coming and going". Strange behaviour for a woman who was just nipping out to get butter (according to her brother)?

She doesn't have her access card to the building (why? why not just go back to her apt and fetch it?) so jams the door with a scarf. Presumably wanders in and out, and then - vanishes until her body is found 12 hours later at 7.30am Wed. morning, drowned and with a scarf around her neck. Same scarf? This could be an important detail. I wonder if CCTV picked up any other activity in the 12 hr period that might help work out who removed the scarf from the door. I have to presume it wasn't still jammed in there when police arrived..

She also left her phone in the apartment.


"Mr Rajapakse said he called her mobile phone from work on Tuesday but his father answered.

“I ask where Amesha is, he (my father) said she still not come. He said I will tell her to call you. Then I did not get a call so I called in an hour,” he said with his distraught father by his side, both in tears.

“That day (Tuesday) I called on her mobile (which her father answered). She went to get milk and butter. I said that’s fine use the gift cards.”

Is that a bit odd, calling her phone, when he knows it's been left at home.. unless that's the ONLY phone in the house. Or was the brother at this point (being at work Tuesday night?) unaware his sister was missing?

Why would he tell their father it's ok to use the gift cards, if Amesha had already left?



A man believed to be a relative has his pockets searched by police before he's taken away for questioning - pic below


He looks very distraught there, doesn't he.

Why are there no pictures of Amesha in the media, I wonder? Usually, there's a picture....

eta: the scream was maybe a relative:

Mr Hailey said residents told him they heard a "blood-curdling scream" about 6.30am on Wednesday just before police arrived at the Bridge Road unit block.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/scream-he...t-westmead-20140827-108z6w.html#ixzz3BpygDJ00

 

[Ausgirl]

wiki article on the Sinhalese:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinhalese_people

interesting article on Amesha's surname:

http://groundviews.org/2009/11/18/rajapakse-now-the-most-popular-surname-in-sri-lanka/

 

[MsAnais]

Just from a quick read through the available msm reports, it seems Amesha was pacing about the foyer of her building on the Tuesday, around 7.30 pm for some reason, and may have been entering and exiting the building while doing so, because one report says she was 'coming and going". Strange behaviour for a woman who was just nipping out to get butter (according to her brother)?

She doesn't have her access card to the building (why? why not just go back to her apt and fetch it?) so jams the door with a scarf. Presumably wanders in and out, and then - vanishes until her body is found 12 hours later at 7.30am Wed. morning, drowned and with a scarf around her neck. Same scarf? This could be an important detail. I wonder if CCTV picked up any other activity in the 12 hr period that might help work out who removed the scarf from the door. I have to presume it wasn't still jammed in there when police arrived..

She also left her phone in the apartment.


"Mr Rajapakse said he called her mobile phone from work on Tuesday but his father answered.

“I ask where Amesha is, he (my father) said she still not come. He said I will tell her to call you. Then I did not get a call so I called in an hour,” he said with his distraught father by his side, both in tears.

“That day (Tuesday) I called on her mobile (which her father answered). She went to get milk and butter. I said that’s fine use the gift cards.”

Is that a bit odd, calling her phone, when he knows it's been left at home.. unless that's the ONLY phone in the house. Or was the brother at this point (being at work Tuesday night?) unaware his sister was missing?

Why would he tell their father it's ok to use the gift cards, if Amesha had already left?



A man believed to be a relative has his pockets searched by police before he's taken away for questioning - pic below


He looks very distraught there, doesn't he.

Why are there no pictures of Amesha in the media, I wonder? Usually, there's a picture....

eta: the scream was maybe a relative:

Mr Hailey said residents told him they heard a "blood-curdling scream" about 6.30am on Wednesday just before police arrived at the Bridge Road unit block.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/scream-he...t-westmead-20140827-108z6w.html#ixzz3BpygDJ00

That's her brother. He's the one who found her body.

SO much is suspicious and not adding up here, imo.

 

[MsAnais]

And yes Ausgirl, it makes ZERO sense for the brother to tell the father it's okay to use the gift cards when she had already left.

That stood out to me too.

Alot doesn't make sense though. In some MSM articles it says the brother last saw her on Monday but in others he says he saw her on Tuesday.........factual discrepencies abound!!

 

[Anoshka]

Just wanted to add..I live at 'A' block of the monarco estate..and I am a very confused and concerned female at the moment..been checking the updates of what really happened but there's hardly any..

Just thinking if that's a sucked then won't it be easier for a person to jump from the high rised building rather than going to the creek?! ( keeping in mind that she lived on seventh floor )

 

[Anoshka]

Just wanted to add..I live at 'A' block of the monarco estate..and I am a very confused and concerned female at the moment..been checking the updates of what really happened but there's hardly any..

Just thinking if that's a suicide then won't it be easier for a person to jump from the high rised building rather than going to the creek?! ( keeping in mind that she lived on seventh floor )
Edited : typo-->> sorry found this forum really helpful to ease my anxiety and posting for the first time..

 

[Oddsocks]

Welcome