GUILTY Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #4

[Belleandsebastian]

I think any person facing jail time, especially anyone on the older side, would be advised by their lawyer to get a full health check-up just in case they need to play the sympathy card if they get sentenced. At that age they’re likely to find some kind of brain shrinkage or something they can claim. For example, there’s no definitive test for Parkinson’s. Dementia is easy to claim.

 

[Detective Willy]

Maybe they should offer him a heavy discount on his sentence if he confesses where he buried Lynette?

That would give CD a big decision to make and it would mess with his mind for sure.

 

[insanity]

He may have avoided charges because the girl concerned sounds like she may have been 17 at the time. Sad as it is, that apparently made her legal back then. These days the laws are different and it would have been considered a crime.

Paul is unquestionably a grub if those articles are true but a slightly smarter grub than brother Chris.

I think you may be right re her being 17. I'm sure there are others. Perhaps they will feel more able to speak up now.

 

[insanity]

Remember we heard that Marilyn had told Lyn 'she should fight for her marriage' and at the time she conceded 'Paul might be up to the same stuff Chris is.'

I had no doubt once I'd heard that, that Marilyn knew Paul had been sleeping with schoolgirls. All the more fool Marilyn for accepting that kind of behavior from her husband.

Ah yes I remember now. Would she goes as far as helping in a murder and/or cleanup?? Interesting thoughts...

 

[Annalize]

I think you may be right re her being 17. I'm sure there are others. Perhaps they will feel more able to speak up now.

If nothing else, he should have had his registration as a teacher revoked. and any superannuation and benefits of his career as a teacher confiscated.

 

[sapphire blue]

Lyns family shows their class

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/lynette-dawsons-family-say-babysitter-was-a-victim-of-chris-dawson/news-story/f680a9607e4a656681407f54ee548795

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Dawson now in Silverwater prison, where he will remain until his sentencing.

We haven't had a date or even an estimate of when the sentence will be delivered, have we?

 

[insanity]

Dawson now in Silverwater prison, where he will remain until his sentencing.

We haven't had a date or even an estimate of when the sentence will be delivered, have we?

As far as I'm aware no. Bail hearing is tomorrow from memory. Perhaps we'll learn more then.

 

[Trooper]

Maybe they should offer him a heavy discount on his sentence if he confesses where he buried Lynette?

That would give CD a big decision to make and it would mess with his mind for sure.

He would have been given that proposal way back in time , when he was merely being questioned about his wife's disappearance.

It certainly would have been put to his solicitor, his Barrister , and the judge would have been informed that he had been offered such a proposal. Obviously, he has refused to even consider such of a thing, as the possibility of him doing that has never been raised.... no way was Dawson going to fall for that old trick!. nooo ... he'll take his chances with a judge.

And that's what he 's done, and this is what happens , he goes off to Silverwater, or if he is unpleasant in any way, he gets shot off to Goulburn, High Security, out on the baking wheat fields, the endless hot summers, the freezing winter nights, where Solitary can mean months of just yourself for company..

 

[Trooper]

If he does get sent to Goulburn he'll be in some repulsive company... probably find himself sharing mealtimes with Robert Hughes 10 years ( sexual assault, indecent assault).. and that's if he's lucky.. The Murphy brothers are still there in Goulburn, never to be released , still playing top dog, an old bloke with a damaged hip like Dawson would be childs play to them. ..

Leslie Camilleri is still there, probably very bored by now, no possibility of parole, Dawson would be new prey... Bilal Skaff is still a resident... Shorty Jamieson, too....

 

[KidonGadol]

Just one comment Joanne was 16 in late 1980 not 15. The charge relates to JC being under 17 and Chris in a teaching role which would have needed to occur while he was her teacher. I think this would have needed to have occurred before the end of school. It doesn't make it any better just a different charge as it applied in 1980.

I believe you are correct on the ages. JC was 16 about to turn 17 in early 81 (about March) when she stayed at the Paul Dawson residence about xmas and CD went there and allegedly slept with her. I have seen the police charge and I thought it included the age of 17, not just under 17 but I don't have an image of it to hand. Chris allegedly had his timetable shifted so he was not JC's direct teacher at some point. That's based on something that Hedley Thomas said. Date of shift is unknown. I'd say he had advice from Peter that he better protect himself that way. It may be that unless Marilynn is willing to give evidence or corroborate JC on dates then this case falls over. Moreover if the school records don't exist any more then who's to say when CD was JC's direct teacher at Cromer high ?

 

[Cliff Hardy]

I believe you are correct on the ages. JC was 16 about to turn 17 in early 81 (about March) when she stayed at the Paul Dawson residence about xmas and CD went there and allegedly slept with her. I have seen the police charge and I thought it included the age of 17, not just under 17 but I don't have an image of it to hand. Chris allegedly had his timetable shifted so he was not JC's direct teacher at some point. That's based on something that Hedley Thomas said. Date of shift is unknown. I'd say he had advice from Peter that he better protect himself that way. It may be that unless Marilynn is willing to give evidence or corroborate JC on dates then this case falls over. Moreover if the school records don't exist any more then who's to say when CD was JC's direct teacher at Cromer high ?

School reports. School photos. Other students recollections. The kids concerned will only be around JC's age now - late 50s - and it is truly amazing what some people retain and remember.

In particular, there were the two 'boys' who's accounts of Chris Dawson were believed by the judge in the just completed Dawson trial.

 

[KidonGadol]

I may be a bit in dreamland, but I truly expect Peter to be disbarred and some of his court workings put up again , in dispute, for a whole lot of reasons. Certainly, the coroners court experience of Peter should be re done, and also the sham , pretendy, false , faux, lying from go to whoa divorce in which Peter was Chris' legal representative.

Peter D can't be attacked in any way for what he did in the coroner's court . Reason being he gave no sworn evidence - the same situation obtains for any lawyer representing an absent client in the CC. That was the beauty of sending Peter along . As for the divorce matter - there he may be more legally exposed. But the state would have to prove what he knew at the time to take action. Frankly they won't bother. It's all too costly and hard.
I have no illusions that Peter knew he was lying in the coroner's court. That's why he was sent there.

 

[Trooper]

Peter D can't be attacked in any way for what he did in the coroner's court . Reason being he gave no sworn evidence - the same situation obtains for any lawyer representing an absent client in the CC. That was the beauty of sending Peter along . As for the divorce matter - there he may be more legally exposed. But the state would have to prove what he knew at the time to take action. Frankly they won't bother. It's all too costly and hard.
I have no illusions that Peter knew he was lying in the coroner's court. That's why he was sent there.

I take on board your point re the Coroners court stuff,, he should have been censured for it at the time....

My theory re the divorce... clearly , his divorce he obtained to marry JC, is false. He was a widower then, and is today, in regard to his 3rd 'marriage' which is as invalid as his 2nd marriage. Peter was his legal rep at the 'divorce' from Lynn ((divorce #1 ) and his 2nd 'divorce ' ( another invalid divorce because that 2nd marriage was unarguably invalid.)

I contend that Peter knew that Lynn was indeed dead , and that Dawson murdered her.

These all seem very trivial points, but JC and a good lawyer could run a substantial case for civil recompense, for being negotiated into an invalid marriage, plus having a child under that misapprehension. Certainly, Lynn's 2 daughters could unwind all the property assets back to the last day of their mothers life, and claim 50% of Dawson's estate, whatever it is.

Which means that Dawson's 3rd 'wife' ( which she isnt, as her marriage is invalid, also, since the 2nd marriage and 2 nd divorce was invalid ) isn't entitled to any more than half, and the other half, of whatever source would be considered to be Lynn's childrens estate. The child of the 2nd 'marriage' would have to contest that with Lynn's girls.


To me, there is something substantial in this course of action, as a method of extracting some justice, in a tangible form. Some thing, at least. It doesn't help Joanne, and doesn't help Sue #3 but those girls are certainly owed.

Anyway... really, its only theory, but it is certainly possible, where Dawson is left with nothing. And that seems rational, to me.

 

[k-mac]

I believe you are correct on the ages. JC was 16 about to turn 17 in early 81 (about March) when she stayed at the Paul Dawson residence about xmas and CD went there and allegedly slept with her. I have seen the police charge and I thought it included the age of 17, not just under 17 but I don't have an image of it to hand. Chris allegedly had his timetable shifted so he was not JC's direct teacher at some point. That's based on something that Hedley Thomas said. Date of shift is unknown. I'd say he had advice from Peter that he better protect himself that way. It may be that unless Marilynn is willing to give evidence or corroborate JC on dates then this case falls over. Moreover if the school records don't exist any more then who's to say when CD was JC's direct teacher at Cromer high ?

There is a birthday card floating around from CD to JC for her 17th birthday........declaring something to the effect she was the love of his life and forever hers.


Have come to the conclusion some time ago....that when the twins were split in utero...there was only one amount of brains.....and they had to split them.

 

[SouthAussie]

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It may be that unless Marilynn is willing to give evidence or corroborate JC on dates then this case falls over. Moreover if the school records don't exist any more then who's to say when CD was JC's direct teacher at Cromer high ?

It sounds as if Strike Force Southwood are in possession of school records.
And Strike Force Southwood are the ones who laid the carnal knowledge charge on Dawson. Presumably after getting the go ahead from the DPP.


Dawson's former school, now called Northern Beaches Secondary College Cromer Campus, along with Forest and Beacon Hills high schools are being probed by NSW Police Crime Command's Strike Force Southwood.

Teacher records dating back 40 years have been handed to police investigating claims staff groomed and hunted students for sex.

The Department of Education has confirmed it handed over files from three schools to Strike Force Southwood.

Three Sydney schools investigated as 'hotbed' of teacher-student sex

The sleazy underbelly of three Sydney northern beaches high schools in the 1980s can be exposed following the end of former Cromer High School PE teacher Chris Dawson's murder trial.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Trooper]

Whatever sentence Dawson gets . which I believe will not be under 20 years, and possibly more, NSW Supreme Court will have to add another 5 years, or even 10, since he is twice a bigamist. 5 Years is the minimum for Bigamy in Au...

Dawson , of course, is in no position to be granted a discount on his sentence, he pleaded not guilty, forced the court to pony up with all the preposterous costs and charges a Supreme Court not guilty plea carries with it, abrogated to himself acres of court time, and police time, security time, Dept. of Public Prosecution time, when he could have pled guilty..

He not only gambled on a judge only trial, he gambled on a really frail grasp of what constitutes circumstantial evidence, his brother should have explained it better.

So no discount. What ever it is, that's what he'll be serving.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Did murderer Chris Dawson drug wife Lynette before smothering her?

It was the unspoken question at Chris Dawson's murder trial: did the ex-football star drug spike his wife's drink on the night he murdered her?

www.dailymail.co.uk

How murderer Chris Dawson may have DRUGGED his trusting wife Lynette before smothering her to death - and why her eerie words on the last night she was heard from could have been a telltale sign​

 

[Bats]

Whatever sentence Dawson gets . which I believe will not be under 20 years, and possibly more, NSW Supreme Court will have to add another 5 years, or even 10, since he is twice a bigamist. 5 Years is the minimum for Bigamy in Au...

I'm not certain the sentence will be over 20 Troops. My thinking is probably about 10. Considering his age that makes his prospect of release slim anyway. If we were talking about a 40 year old then probably 20ish. Any extras, like the carnal knowledge, im pretty sure will be served concurrently...though i could be wrong...

 

[Trooper]

I'm not certain the sentence will be under 20 Troops. My thinking is probably about 10. Considering his age that makes his prospect of release slim anyway. If we were talking about a 40 year old then probably 20ish. Any extras, like the carnal knowledge, im pretty sure will be served concurrently...though i could be wrong...

In NSW it is mandatory life for murder. No ifs, or buts. That's the sentence. After that, the discussion centres around what point the prisoner can begin to apply for bail. In NSW, that's 20 years for a murderer. No ifs, or buts, that's the program. Man, Woman, black white or piebald.

It would actually require an Act of Parliament, specifically for Chris Dawson to have anything less than the set amount, ( Life ) and the set amount of years to serve (20 ) before granted the permission to apply for parole.

Very few murderers get parole at the 20 yr mark in NSW. Some, with a mercy provision by Parliament, not by the prison board of correction , are allowed out to die, but this is at the ambulance stage of dying. Chris Dawson may, in time get this, but there are at present 7 blokes and 2 women in prison 70 - 80 who are still confined, and who are eligible to apply for bail, but bail has not been granted. (( Goulburn and Silverwater ( for the ladies)

Then there are the folks who are never to be released, never to receive parole. Dawson won't be among that lot, I don' t think. But I could be wrong on that. Some cranky judge might hurl the book at him!