GUILTY Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #4

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The Teachers Trial Verdict Episode 1. Before and After

 

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Lyn Dawson: Vanished

The murder verdict that gripped the nation, Australian Story goes behind the scenes with Lyn Dawson’s family Australian Story returns Monday September 5, 8:00pm, on ABCTV, iview and Youtube.

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Australian Story Vanished Monday 5th September 8pm.

It's almost 20 years since Australian Story first spoke to the family of former nurse and childcare worker Lyn Dawson.

The much-loved mother-of-two was living on Sydney's northern beaches when she vanished in suspicious circumstances 40 years ago.

In May this year her then-husband, Chris Dawson, stood trial for his wife's murder and last week, amidst a frenzy of media and public interest, Justice Ian Harrison handed down his decision.

Monday, we go behind the scenes with Lyn's family and friends as they wait for a verdict that gripped the nation.

Airs Monday September 5, 8:00pm, on ABCTV, iview and Youtube.

 

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/opinion/paul-kent-chris-dawson-the-illfitting-newtown-jet-who-stood-on-the-fringes/news-story/a96f55b328f238465058ee8945ebcacb?amp&nk=1ca462fe40a4f89e3060bf789eae1693-1662124327

Paul Kent: Chris Dawson, the ill-fitting Newtown Jet who stood on the fringes​

 

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How Chris Dawson was found guilty of murder despite lack of scientific or forensic evidence

 

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https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/how-portrait-of-love-between-chris-and-lynette-dawson-ended-in-unspeakable-tragedy/news-story/43572f6ee186f33bf184a98aaa344d34

How portrait of love between Chris and Lynette Dawson ended in unspeakable tragedy​

 

[DRT]

The article states that “word on the street“ has it like this….

The streetcorner tip is the hitman was Neddy Smith and the place was the old Newtown RSL Club, which was upstairs from the street.

The article also mentions other underworld figures that mixed with Newtown Jets at the time including:

This was also about the time Gary Sullivan, who played with Dawson at Newtown in the 1970s, was pulling off some of the biggest bank and armoured truck robberies in Australia.

The article also reports that Neddy Smith was one of Dawson’s team-mate’s brother in law ….

So who knows ??? Would be an intriguing question to ask, if a truthful answer could be ascertained ???

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/opinion/paul-kent-chris-dawson-the-illfitting-newtown-jet-who-stood-on-the-fringes/news-story/a96f55b328f238465058ee8945ebcacb

EDIT to add, I don’t think it was a lie either…. My initial post was more that the article was trying to get across the point that possibly the Judge was out of his depth in regards to criminality and football links from that time ….
Hope that makes sense …

The judge shouldn't have to have any inside knowledge as to other criminality. The prosecution should have to prove it. JC didn't know where she went or who it was. Her testimony said that Chris Dawson told her he was considering it and he didn't. The backup witnesses she had who she had told were after she left Chris. Each had a variation of the story that JC told, but they were hearing it third hand about 9 years after it occurred. No one heard this story before JC had left Chris which is why the judge didn't accept it. It was first heard about the time of her divorce proceedings.

 

[Trooper]

For no good reason, I've been wondering how Chris Dawson managed to obtain his 'divorce' from Lyn. It's not as easy as it sounds, and while he was madly insistent on marrying JC, he had 3 choices..

admit he is a widower, or...( with the inconvenience of being charged with murder, because how else would he know he was a widower?)

pretend to divorce someone he has murdered. ...difficult but do -able...

Or live with JC without marriage, and without sole custody of the girls.

The decision is, to go thru the actions of a divorce to someone he has murdered.

I wonder if his legal advisor explained to him that to marry JC he had to label himself one thing or the other. Widowed, or abandoned, and he chose to go the abandoned route.. The Family Law court is very very strict about this particular aspect of divorce.. the inability to find the spouse that's missing is one the courts take very seriously. It's a very complicated procedure, and Dawson must have had qualified legal assistance from the get go, to obtain it.

This kind of divorce is granted under exceptional circumstances, it requires particular dispensation, all signed off by a solicitor, very much like the kind of search the Police eventually undertook years later.

Hard to believe the family solicitor was not involved up to the hilt in this tricksy game..

 

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JC's evidence re Chris receiving advice from Peter was accepted because Peter had previously been interviewed with Prendergast and Loone. From point 406, with JC's testimony in 405. This was re the flat in Manly.

"Peter Dawson gave evidence in this trial denying that conversation. However, Peter Dawson spoke with Detectives Pendergast and Loone on 4 March 1999, about one week after they had spoken to Mr and Mrs Hutcheon, as part of Damian Loone’s investigation. A note of the conversation with Peter Dawson records the following:
“Peter Dawson was unable to specifically recall giving Christopher advice on the consequences of leaving Lyn but does not deny that he may have done so. If it did occur then he may have told Chris that he would lose between 60 - 70 % of what he owned together with loss of custody of the two children.”

 

[Trooper]

JC's evidence re Chris receiving advice from Peter was accepted because Peter had previously been interviewed with Prendergast and Loone. From point 406, with JC's testimony in 405. This was re the flat in Manly.

"Peter Dawson gave evidence in this trial denying that conversation. However, Peter Dawson spoke with Detectives Pendergast and Loone on 4 March 1999, about one week after they had spoken to Mr and Mrs Hutcheon, as part of Damian Loone’s investigation. A note of the conversation with Peter Dawson records the following:
“Peter Dawson was unable to specifically recall giving Christopher advice on the consequences of leaving Lyn but does not deny that he may have done so. If it did occur then he may have told Chris that he would lose between 60 - 70 % of what he owned together with loss of custody of the two children.”

A selective memory, and conveniently, vague and speculative. It would be irrational to think that Dawson did not receive the same advice when it came to the 2nd divorce. Except, this time, a less radical solution was accepted, he would have to cough up some dough in the second divorce ...Lucky JC.. !

However. ... his marriage to JC is invalid, his divorce from Lyn is invalid, his divorce from JC is invalid and his 3rd marriage is invalid.

Where this leaves JC's daughter, I don't quite know, but it leaves Lyn's daughters with one hell of a civil suit, an endless goat roping, as these sorts of cases are called. Everyone is in it, it's got bells, whistles and trumpets, .. I would think the suit would include the entirely innocent 3rd ''wife'.. She , currently , is entitled to 1/2 their shared assets, OR 1/2 the assets at the 1982 value.. this could cause a lot of sturm und drang all over the place....... ......


These are the kind of knotty problems that solicitors up and down the land indulge in, long what if's and what about's , during a lull in proceedings..

 

[nightrider17]

Hi Trooper - sorry - what do you mean invalid. Do you mean by law or in his minds eye??

Is this in relation to the final assets CD has left? MOO

 

[Trooper]

Hi Trooper - sorry - what do you mean invalid. Do you mean by law or in his minds eye??

Is this in relation to the final assets CD has left? MOO

In Law, I reckon, NR... on one's marriage certificate, one has to state what one's current marital status is.. single, divorced, widowed.

Obviously, he has lied on 2 marriage certificates. His marriage to Lyn may , I think is, his only valid marriage , in law . How one sees one's status is not a legal construct. He may see it any way he chooses, but the legal definition is thats an invalid event. It has no function.

It has a very real consequence for ALL his children, of a different sort. The daughters of Lyn, and the daughter of JC have totally different claims, in law.

It was a point that interested me, considering the convoluted path Dawson chose to travel, and never deviated from. He bowled straight into a 3rd marriage, determined to maintain the illusion, and this part of him, of Dawson's generally, I find the most rivetting.. from a sort of petri dish point of view.


In relation to his assets, such as they are and not forgetting that he scooped the pool of Lynn's assets, and went on accumulating, there is a lot of filigree, embroidery, finely carved legal circuitry to follow ...

 

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/opinion/paul-kent-chris-dawson-the-illfitting-newtown-jet-who-stood-on-the-fringes/news-story/a96f55b328f238465058ee8945ebcacb?amp&nk=1ca462fe40a4f89e3060bf789eae1693-1662124327

Paul Kent: Chris Dawson, the ill-fitting Newtown Jet who stood on the fringes​

Can someone with an account please provide an inkling as to what Kent is getting at when he says "Ill-fitting"??

 

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Can someone with an account please provide an inkling as to what Kent is getting at when he says "Ill-fitting"??

The article goes on to say that they were an odd fit at the Newtown Jets (from 1972).

That they (Dawson twins) were tough and willing.

That the team was an odd mix of criminals and local coppers, with (Chris) Dawson out on the edge.

 

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Can someone with an account please provide an inkling as to what Kent is getting at when he says "Ill-fitting"??

The twins were described as "weird".
One would turn up in red white and blue shorts, then the other would arrive 5 minutes later in the same outfit and would deny that they'd talked to each other.

Something about their wives waiting and talking to other people, til one of the brothers arrived and call them away and without a word the wives would stand and leave without protest.

 

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I have just listened to the new Teachers Pet episode. You need to be a subscriber to listen. Hedley has made it very clear that he thinks Lyn is buried somewhere on the original property where Lyn and Chris lived. I also believe this to be true. I am not sure why I believe this except for those strange visits Chris made to their old home...and the where are you digging questions?? In the second dig did they dig under the new renovations made to the home? The soft soil area that was later concreted over to add a new bedroom?

 

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‘She felt she could trust him’: Chris Dawson trial lays bare his chilling pursuit of teen girl

 

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Of course you do

 

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Of course you do

Wow, that's a bit off! Typical, the Australian is cashing in on the new interest and popularity of the case.

 

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Hedley has made it very clear that he thinks Lyn is buried somewhere on the original property where Lyn and Chris lived.

NSW Police are going to look pretty stupid if they eventually find that Lynette is still buried there.

Unless they have already detected she was buried there, but have held this back for operational and/or political or other unknown reasons.

 

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I had a little chuckle when reading Paul Cooper's story about his encounter with Lyn in the judge's verdict (points 136 - 144)

The judge (his honour), has wiped this ludicrous evidence away so cleanly.