Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a flight from Queensland, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 *Arrests* #4

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I believe it will be quite some time before everything the police have that warranted the arrests in the first place will be revealed.

I know personally of a high profile murder case several years ago in NSW and not much was revealed at the first 3 - 4 court appearances. It wasn’t until the person charged was trying to get bail due to medical reasons that the police revealed more of the body evidence in order to stop the bail.

Bail was denied obviously.

Sorry unrelated case but just wanted to say

Initial hearing doesn’t say much.. just the basics. No detail.
 
What really amazes me is they left PB near the airport for 2 days before moving her!!!!!!! Police searches in that area were too late.
It literally says according to court documents. Thats the brief of evidence so far
It says it’s from the court documents. That’s not reporters speculating

What gives me pause about the courier mail's claims is that the information is at odds with what has been reported by the Police themselves during their press conferences.

PB was not left near the airport for two days. According to Police -
  • After her death, Pheobe's body was taken to the Goodnight Scrub NP. (This is the first instance of interfering with a corpse).
  • Days later, her body was moved to a new hiding place, 9km away... still within Goodnight Scrub NP. (This is the second instance of interfering with a corpse).
Lets say that the Courier mail have in fact seen court documents related to this case.
One of three things has happened here:
  • The court documents are wrong.
  • The police provided false information during their press conferences.
  • The courier mail has misinterpreted the court documents or inferred some of the details.
Out of those options, which one do you think is more likely?
 
Sorry for the wait folks, @findmollie recorded this video for us.
Thank you so much for uploading this!

This video starts by turning onto Samuel's Rd, left onto Childer's Rd, right onto Airport Dr, brief entry/exit into the BMX turn off / dirt road (I didn't feel comfortable going any further given the circumstances), continuing down Airport Dr, and into the Bundaberg Airport.

I then drove through the drop off zone (no flights leaving at this time, so it was relatively empty), right through the roundabout onto Commercial St, round the roundabout back towards Airport Dr, a detour on Aviation Cres to give additional information about the area since it has been built up since the Street View images, and back towards Takalvan St.

Takalvan St turns into Childer's Rd at that intersection but it is the same road.
 

‘The town is angry and empty’: Small town of Gin Gin reacts to Pheobe Bishop’s alleged murder as tight-knit community grapples with aftermath of tragedy​

Pheobe Bishop’s alleged murder has had a significant impact on the tight-knit community of Gin Gin, leaving locals grappling with the aftermath of her loss in a changed town.

A second Gin Gin local who wishes to remain anonymous told Skynews.com.au, the alleged murder of Pheobe has “changed the town” and “broke the hearts of everyone”.

“The town is angry and empty," they said.

“A local told this publication the town is so tightly integrated; teenagers often leave their family homes to stay with other members of the community for months on end, a town habit that may now be reconsidered.

The Mayor further emphasised the importance of respecting one of the accused’s family and urged the community to not “apply the blame game”, as requested by Pheobe’s mother during a vigil.

“I think what Phoebe's mum said at the vigil was that it was important for the community not to apply the blame game with the family of one of the accused,” she said.

“But rather to really consider that they are also members of the community.

Asked whether the recent tragedies would tarnish the Gin Gin town’s friendly reputation, Ms Blackburn said the isolated incidents do not define their strong community spirit.

She further added the council may consider a plaque at the community park where Pheobe’s vigils were held as a permanent reminder of her presence, should her family agree to it.“
“Gin gin towns friendly reputation”
I must have been to a different gin gin lmao
 
This video starts by turning onto Samuel's Rd, left onto Childer's Rd, right onto Airport Dr, brief entry/exit into the BMX turn off / dirt road (I didn't feel comfortable going any further given the circumstances), continuing down Airport Dr, and into the Bundaberg Airport.

I then drove through the drop off zone (no flights leaving at this time, so it was relatively empty), right through the roundabout onto Commercial St, round the roundabout back towards Airport Dr, a detour on Aviation Cres to give additional information about the area since it has been built up since the Street View images, and back towards Takalvan St.

Takalvan St turns into Childer's Rd at that intersection but it is the same road.

Thank you very much for uploading that drive through video.
Something I just noticed on Google Maps is that most of Airport Drive and part of Commercial St are currently barred from street view (blue lines are areas available for viewing).

Airport-Drv.webp
 
Thank you very much for uploading that drive through video.
Something I just noticed on Google Maps is that most of Airport Drive and part of Commercial St are currently barred from street view (blue lines are areas available for viewing).

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Yes, that's the main reason I thought it would be helpful to take the video, that and the video is more up to date than Google Maps etc.
 
Yes, that's the main reason I thought it would be helpful to take the video, that and the video is more up to date than Google Maps etc.
You could have driven down to the BMX track, they're generally open to non members and the public to practice on, from my experience. Understandable about feeling uneasy, though.
 
Confirmation Pheobe lived with a disability


Quotes from the article linked in MathildaM's post:

"This week rumours have circulated in the Gin Gin community that Pheobe was an NDIS recipient through her mother's company."

...

"'Your disability only defines you if you allow it to and Phee never let hers define her.'

Ms Johnson did not specify what Pheobe's disability was. However, before she disappeared, the teen had shared a post to TikTok about bipolar disorder.

'Having a partner with bpd means... getting blocked or left over small incidents... they will say very harsh things they don't mean when having an episode,' the post said, apparently in an attempt to explain her sometimes unpredictable behaviour.
Ms Johnson previously said Pheobe 'didn't fit the mainstream school model' and struggled with her education until she was enrolled at the alternative Y School in Bundaberg.

Pheobe's final posts to social media suggested the troubled teen had fallen out with her mother and would not return home. She also claimed in text messages to her aunt, Caz Johnson, that her mum had told her to 'get out'."


Hypothetically, if PB was an NDIS recipient (which it is just a rumour reported on by the Daily Mail), would that mean TB could have been her carer? And, hypothetically, if so, could this have been linked to a possible motive? Such as, a loss of income? If PB blurted out that she wasn't coming back. Or, perhaps, a threat of exposure? Or both?
 
Quotes from the article linked in MathildaM's post:

"This week rumours have circulated in the Gin Gin community that Pheobe was an NDIS recipient through her mother's company."

...

"'Your disability only defines you if you allow it to and Phee never let hers define her.'

Ms Johnson did not specify what Pheobe's disability was. However, before she disappeared, the teen had shared a post to TikTok about bipolar disorder.

'Having a partner with bpd means... getting blocked or left over small incidents... they will say very harsh things they don't mean when having an episode,' the post said, apparently in an attempt to explain her sometimes unpredictable behaviour.
Ms Johnson previously said Pheobe 'didn't fit the mainstream school model' and struggled with her education until she was enrolled at the alternative Y School in Bundaberg.

Pheobe's final posts to social media suggested the troubled teen had fallen out with her mother and would not return home. She also claimed in text messages to her aunt, Caz Johnson, that her mum had told her to 'get out'."


Hypothetically, if PB was an NDIS recipient (which it is just a rumour reported on by the Daily Mail), would that mean TB could have been her carer? And, hypothetically, if so, could this have been linked to a possible motive? Such as, a loss of income? If PB blurted out that she wasn't coming back. Or, perhaps, a threat of exposure? Or both?
hypothetically it’s a motive that makes sense.

JMO
 
Quotes from the article linked in MathildaM's post:

"This week rumours have circulated in the Gin Gin community that Pheobe was an NDIS recipient through her mother's company."

...

"'Your disability only defines you if you allow it to and Phee never let hers define her.'

Ms Johnson did not specify what Pheobe's disability was. However, before she disappeared, the teen had shared a post to TikTok about bipolar disorder.

'Having a partner with bpd means... getting blocked or left over small incidents... they will say very harsh things they don't mean when having an episode,' the post said, apparently in an attempt to explain her sometimes unpredictable behaviour.
Ms Johnson previously said Pheobe 'didn't fit the mainstream school model' and struggled with her education until she was enrolled at the alternative Y School in Bundaberg.

Pheobe's final posts to social media suggested the troubled teen had fallen out with her mother and would not return home. She also claimed in text messages to her aunt, Caz Johnson, that her mum had told her to 'get out'."


Hypothetically, if PB was an NDIS recipient (which it is just a rumour reported on by the Daily Mail), would that mean TB could have been her carer? And, hypothetically, if so, could this have been linked to a possible motive? Such as, a loss of income? If PB blurted out that she wasn't coming back. Or, perhaps, a threat of exposure? Or both?
I think this is a solid theory. Could the tensions have been heightened because they were in the process of being evicted, and PB was not cooperating with a plan to continue any carer arrangement in place that was providing TB with income?

Also to note, as has been mentioned previously, bpd refers to borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder.
 
I think this is a solid theory. Could the tensions have been heightened because they were in the process of being evicted, and PB was not cooperating with a plan to continue any carer arrangement in place that was providing TB with income?
Early on in this case we theorised that Phoebe may have been extorted for rent money, and her announcing near the airport that she didn't plan on ever coming back from Perth could have lead to the attack. It seems we were not that far off.


Also to note, as has been mentioned previously, bpd refers to borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder.

Frustrating that the media continue to get this wrong:

"Before she disappeared, the teen had shared a post to TikTok about bipolar disorder.
'
Having a partner with bpd means... getting blocked or left over small incidents... they will say very harsh things they don't mean when having an episode,' the post said, apparently in an attempt to explain her sometimes unpredictable behaviour."

For reference, that behaviour is common trait of Borderline Personality Disorder (Not Bipolar).

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I think this is a solid theory. Could the tensions have been heightened because they were in the process of being evicted, and PB was not cooperating with a plan to continue any carer arrangement in place that was providing TB with income?

Also to note, as has been mentioned previously, bpd refers to borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder.

BBM.

Excellent theory. I wonder if that income might, over time, have come anywhere near the "5k" that JW mentioned.

Also possible that PB might have raised the possibility of "taking back" that income that, in her view, TB might not have rightfully earned. Not easy to have your personal piggybank decide it's in her best interests to move on and out and (ideally) far, far away.
 
What gives me pause about the courier mail's claims is that the information is at odds with what has been reported by the Police themselves during their press conferences.

PB was not left near the airport for two days. According to Police -
  • After her death, Pheobe's body was taken to the Goodnight Scrub NP. (This is the first instance of interfering with a corpse).
  • Days later, her body was moved to a new hiding place, 9km away... still within Goodnight Scrub NP. (This is the second instance of interfering with a corpse).
Lets say that the Courier mail have in fact seen court documents related to this case.
One of three things has happened here:
  • The court documents are wrong.
  • The police provided false information during their press conferences.
  • The courier mail has misinterpreted the court documents or inferred some of the details.
Out of those options, which one do you think is more likely?
I guess without seeing court documents no one can say whether what has been reported as being in them is correct or not.
We shall see as time goes on
 
Early on in this case we theorised that Phoebe may have been extorted for rent money, and her announcing near the airport that she didn't plan on ever coming back from Perth could have lead to the attack. It seems we were not that far off.




Frustrating that the media continue to get this wrong:

"Before she disappeared, the teen had shared a post to TikTok about bipolar disorder.
'
Having a partner with bpd means... getting blocked or left over small incidents... they will say very harsh things they don't mean when having an episode,' the post said, apparently in an attempt to explain her sometimes unpredictable behaviour."

For reference, that behaviour is common trait of Borderline Personality Disorder (Not Bipolar).

-
It was also mentioned that there were anniversaries of three deaths the week she went missing. It stands to reason she may have been elevated and a bit overwhelmed grieving and travelling interstate IMOO.
 
BBM.

Excellent theory. I wonder if that income might, over time, have come anywhere near the "5k" that JW mentioned.

Also possible that PB might have raised the possibility of "taking back" that income that, in her view, TB might not have rightfully earned. Not easy to have your personal piggybank decide it's in her best interests to move on and out and (ideally) far, far away.

At 17 can you not receive your own hypothetical payments?
 
At 18 years you are an adult in QLD and this would likely have entailed a reassessment if she was under a NDIS provider. Perhaps PB wanted to change and leave NDIS and be independent, I don’t believe you can claim Centrelink (welfare assistance towards rent for example) if receiving support for assisted independent living under the NDIS. PB wouldn’t have seen any $ under NSIS in her bank account (pocket). No NDIS at 18 years means PB would have received $ directly from the govt for ‘crossover’ services and not be dependent on an NDIS provider.

For more clarity as I waffled:
- NDIS payments would not have gone to Pheobe, straight to the service providers
- welfare payments would go directly to Pheobe to spend as she chose
- you can’t claim both for the same service, for example if an NDIS plan included supported independent living including rental assistance, wouldn’t pay rent assistance

You can get both NDIS and Centrelink but no double dipping.
 
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At 18 years you are an adult in QLD and this would likely have entailed a reassessment if she was under a NDIS provider. Perhaps PB wanted to change and leave NDIS and be independent, I don’t believe you can claim Centrelink (welfare assistance towards rent for example) if receiving it under the NDIS. PB wouldn’t have seen any $ under NSIS in her bank account (pocket). No NDIS at 18 years means PB would have received $ directly from the govt & not be dependent on an NDIS provider.
A one could hypothetically either receive NDIS or Centrelink but not both?
 
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