GUILTY Australia - Terence Darrell Kelly, charged w/ abduction of 4 y.o., WA, 16 Oct 2021 #2

  • #81
He appears to be nocturnal.
RSBM

According to what we know from information provided by LE, there were no images on the dark web.
Agreed, but that’s not what I was suggesting.


In my opinion, criminals using the dark web to exchange illegal images are not going to take the risk of making facebook friend requests.
Again, I’m not suggesting anything was posted to the dark web, but you might want to look into what TK’s circle were openly “liking” on FB. While the content wouldn’t be classified as CP there is something unsettling about grown men “liking” numerous photos of toddlers in swimwear or leotards. When these same men follow each from profile to profile that’s alarming. That’s just my opinion anyway.


It could be just paranoia.
Well yeah it could be a few different things but that’s hardly a valid reason to dismiss all other possibilities.

Lastly, I don’t have a specific opinion regarding TK’s actions or intentions, I’m just curious about the digital footprint he has left behind, that’s all.
The points you've made are valid and thanks for posting them. I tend to agree. Saying this I would think LE would investigate further just to make sure there is no nefarious ring of people in this case. So it is possible LE will look to see if anything is amiss with TK's circle of friends or associates.
 
  • #82
Re: thoughts that CS might have woken up and wandered at the campground - I don't think so as her sleeping bag was gone too. It sounds like he just scooped her up, sleeping bag and all. It was probably quick. It seems he didn't take the time to separate her from her sleeping bag.

As for the speculation that TK may have wanted a daughter of his own - I can't for the life of me figure out why he took a white child who looks nothing like him, unless he planned to keep her hidden away for years.

I think this is something more sinister and that his online fantasy world was some sort of catfishing setup. Maybe he finally got brave enough to take a child after years of planning and fantasising. There are too many creepy things on his FB that make him look like he's "protesting too much."

ETA: I forgot to mention that the windows were blacked out and there was allegedly a lock on the outside of the room CS was in. That is some sinister sh*t.

Accused kidnapper had a bedroom 'decorated for little girl'
 
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  • #83
It’ll be a real shame if he doesn’t know the whereabouts of his dolls…

If he's not informed what has happened to them, his mental health could potentially deteriorate further IMO.
 
  • #84
I do wonder what TK's end game was???
 
  • #85
If he's not informed what has happened to them, his mental health could potentially deteriorate further IMO.

Just like Jake & Ellie.

I’m not usually an “eye for an eye” type but the thought crossed my mind.
 
  • #86
I do wonder what TK's end game was???

That’s my number one question at the moment Doc. I would like to know if he had an endgame planned, or if he was just winging it day to day?
 
  • #87
Re: thoughts that CS might have woken up and wandered at the campground - I don't think so as her sleeping bag was gone too. It sounds like he just scooped her up, sleeping bag and all. It was probably quick. It seems he didn't take the time to separate her from her sleeping bag.

As for the speculation that TK may have wanted a daughter of his own - I can't for the life of me figure out why he took a white child who looks nothing like him, unless he planned to keep her hidden away for years.

I think this is something more sinister and that his online fantasy world was some sort of catfishing setup. Maybe he finally got brave enough to take a child after years of planning and fantasising. There are too many creepy things on his FB that make him look like he's "protesting too much."

ETA: I forgot to mention that the windows were blacked out and there was allegedly a lock on the outside of the room CS was in. That is some sinister ****.

Accused kidnapper had a bedroom 'decorated for little girl'
My thoughts are pretty much the same as yours. I think what we know so far is merely the tip of the iceberg.
 
  • #88
Just like Jake & Ellie.

I’m not usually an “eye for an eye” type but the thought crossed my mind.

I think it will have a very long-term effect on Jake and Ellie. Of course we don't know, and hopefully never will, find out what happened to CS, but children are resilient. IF he didn't mistreat her physically, hopefully she'll bounce back to her normal self sooner (whatever that means) rather than later, but I live in hope. I'm a glass half full sort of gal. I personally have no memories going back to that age and only have a few from when I was 6. I've asked some of my friends what age their earliest childhood memories are and they were nearly all the same as me. Having said that, we know that several of our members here have been through shocking ordeals, but I don't get the impression that anything gross happened to this dear little girl.
 
  • #89
I do wonder what TK's end game was???
One could invest a lot of time on that conundrum.

I don't think that a ransom was part of it, .. it is possible that he may have come round to that at some time, but generally speaking, in almost all known cases, a ransom note is delivered mighty early in the piece..

So.. a kidnapping without a monetary motive.

How long can someone hang on to someone else's kid for admiration purposes??.. I dunno. Was she part of his fantasy family? that's a possibility, .. he will never tell anyone that, though. Was she part of the story, , her being promoted as the Italian mother's grand daughter? ..

He seemed strongly determined to deny his own heritage and appropriate another. .. I don't see this as a failing, but I see it as a terrific problem for him to bring it off.
 
  • #90
Some browsers let you log into multiple FB profiles at once with a drop down menu .. it might not have been that hard for him to interact between them that way. Instagram also allows this on your phone. I think he did all of it on his own, I think this was his own private little world.
Obviously you are more cleverer than me. I try to do 3 different employers FB pages plus my own and my hubby’s business. Does my head in. What’s your secret browser
@mrsGNorris
 
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  • #91
Obviously you are more cleverer than me. I try to do 3 different employers FB pages plus my own and my hubby’s business. Does my head in. What’s your secret browser M
@mrs G Morris ?

How busy was TK over the last year or so with these FB profiles?
 
  • #92
I've wondered about his end game. CS became the most famous person in Carnarvon when she went missing. The community would likely have kept their eyes peeled for years.

How on earth would he explain his "daughter" who is white and looks a heck of a lot like one of Australia's most well-known missing children?

I think she was taken for sinister purposes and I pray that he hadn't yet carried out whatever he was planning to do.

Best case scenario is he might have dropped her off somewhere public, then fled. It's hard to tell if he would kill someone because she was still alive after 18 days.
 
  • #93
I do wonder what TK's end game was???

I don't think he had an end game. Being white CS would never be accepted as his daughter and he must have realised that it would be difficult for a single man to ever adopt an abducted child. I think it was an impulsive move.
 
  • #94
Obviously you are more cleverer than me. I try to do 3 different employers FB pages plus my own and my hubby’s business. Does my head in. What’s your secret browser M
@mrsGNorris

I noticed it on Opera, then googled the option and apparently you can do this on Chrome too, but I haven’t tested that one.
 
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  • #96
YES to Both?

I think TK could be crazy but I don't think he is a pedo. Perhaps he told the tradesman that he has a daughter because he was embarrassed that he had to let the tradesman into the room where he would see his doll collection.
 
  • #97
I don’t think TK took CS as a daughter at all. She was his real life doll. I don’t think he had an end game IMO. There is evidence of planning in so much that he had locked doors and blacked out windows and a room set up. Just waiting for the right opportunity. It’s just so lucky LE found her before he discarded her.
 
  • #98
I don’t think TK took CS as a daughter at all. She was his real life doll. I don’t think he had an end game IMO. It’s just so lucky LE found her before he discarded her.
That is one thing I wanted to ask the doll collector contingent... What happens when one becomes bored with a doll?. or.. the doll, inert though it is, quite blameless, you suddenly 'take against it'.. No body has mentioned this aspect.. Does one keep every darn doll one ever bought, or was given?? .

And how are dolls... . what would be the word here, .. recycled? reborn?? re jected? returned..??
 
  • #99
I don’t think TK took CS as a daughter at all. She was his real life doll. I don’t think he had an end game IMO. It’s just so lucky LE found her before he discarded her.

But he didn't discard his other dolls, so why would he discard his real life doll? I definitely do not think TK would have ended CS' life.
 
  • #100
That is one thing I wanted to ask the doll collector contingent... What happens when one becomes bored with a doll?. or.. the doll, inert though it is, quite blameless, you suddenly 'take against it'.. No body has mentioned this aspect.. Does one keep every darn doll one ever bought, or was given?? .

And how are dolls... . what would be the word here, .. recycled? reborn?? re jected? returned..??

Put back in the box? or sold?
 

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