GUILTY Australia - Terence Darrell Kelly, charged w/ abduction of 4 y.o., WA, 16 Oct 2021 #2

[styzrz]

IMO that's just enough money to buy necessary daily items. The money would quite strictly have to managed (if he was buying gas for example everyday.) Food, electricity, entertainment, I just don't see how he can afford anything else without a side hussle. Again my own opinion but I don't see how entertainment can be afforded on this budget. I could be totally wrong as well. Please correct me if I am.

FYI, <modsnip> that $1000 USD was how much he was alleged to have spent on 2 Bratz dolls on EBay in Feb of this year.

 

[Reneemaree88]

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Yeah I agree, upon thinking back I remneewd I lived in an older brick one many many years ago and heard everything but we were in a townhouse around 4 years ago, it’s similar to a duplex but neighbours both sides. I never heard anyone either side, except when they were in the front or back yard. I’m interested to see this new video of inside the neighbours house. Does anyone have a copy of it?

 

[5W's]

FYI, <modsnip> that $1000 USD was how much he was alleged to have spent on 2 Bratz dolls on EBay in Feb of this year.

Interesting thanks for posting this and correcting me. But, I still wonder where he would have gotten the money for the Bratz dolls. Maybe he inherited some money from his grandmother? IDK. I mean judging by his cars they didn't have insurance. So why not have insurance? I could be wrong but is he on some kind of government assistance, I thought he was.

 

[Rumination1]

FYI, <modsnip> that $1000 USD was how much he was alleged to have spent on 2 Bratz dolls on EBay in Feb of this year.

Omg. Crazy thought .... was he after an ultra expensive bratz and planning a “swap”?
I hope that is crazy and wrong !

 

[Warshawski]

So curious why people think that who he was at the TAB with matters?

Also curious why things like blinds, sleeping habits, etc are at all relevant?

Hi PinkPower - is it that you’re not sensing any relevance in any of those topics ?

Personally I have no idea whether they are or not, however imo all things need to be examined / considered.

TK has been reported as a Loner, however:
he was in a vehicle with others when apprehended
he was seen in female company at the TAB
which indicates to me that he has some associates - and those Associates could perhaps provide answers to some Pol questions.

Not Blinds - blacked out windows
why were they blacked out ?
was it entirely innocent?
or was it done in preparation for activities that TK didn’t want to have witnesses to - drug dealing, hostage situations, anything that might betray his / granny’s community standing

Sleeping Habits :-
each to there own of course, but I don’t know too many people who choose to be lying in the backyard at 3am
did TK just like to sleep under the stars ( although he told neighbour he just woke up)?
did he choose to sleep outside because a child was inside ?
did he want to be outside to monitor security ?
was he waiting for someone ?
Answers to many of these questions could lead to useful intel for Pol

MOO

 

[Warshawski]

The sleeping bag CS was sleeping in when she was abducted from a tent at the Blowholes camp site has still not been found.

It was deemed a critical item during the search for CS, with police releasing an image that was splashed on missing person posters all over the country.

Officers waded through 50 cubic metres of rubbish recovered from bins from Minilya to Geraldton, however, the sleeping bag was not found.

And despite the home of accused kidnapper TK being turned upside down and emptied in a forensic search, there has still been no sign of it.

The Tonkin Crescent property was on Wednesday free from forensics for the first time since police broke into the home just before 1am on November 3.

thewest.com.au sleeping-bag-still-the-missing-piece-of-the-puzzle

No doubt a 6 year old would find it handy

 

[Warshawski]

Police say there wasn't

Really ? I haven’t heard that said

 

[Warshawski]

Has anyone brought up the possibility that the guy who has been arrested dressed up as a female and played “mama” with the child? I mean he was apparently obsessed with dolls.

Yes, this has been discussed at length.

 

[styzrz]

Interesting thanks for posting this and correcting me. But, I still wonder where he would have gotten the money for the Bratz dolls. Maybe he inherited some money from his grandmother? IDK. I mean judging by his cars they didn't have insurance. So why not have insurance? I could be wrong but is he on some kind of government assistance, I thought he was.

No problem. I guess his income is open to speculation. I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of the money for his purchases of expensive Bratz dolls came from his trading of Bratz dolls. I’m wondering if he sold a bunch of his more common dolls to pay for those two rare dolls. Obviously it could also come from dealing drugs or theft but they are also just me guessing.

I never knew people in those communities to get a lot of actual cash from welfare. Enough to live and party somewhat but nothing extravagant.
He may have been very conscious of his spending of his welfare and saved a lot but I doubt that was the scenario.

 

[peanutJelly]

Hi PinkPower - is it that you’re not sensing any relevance in any of those topics ?

Personally I have no idea whether they are or not, however imo all things need to be examined / considered.

TK has been reported as a Loner, however:
he was in a vehicle with others when apprehended
he was seen in female company at the TAB
which indicates to me that he has some associates - and those Associates could perhaps provide answers to some Pol questions.

Not Blinds - blacked out windows
why were they blacked out ?
was it entirely innocent?
or was it done in preparation for activities that TK didn’t want to have witnesses to - drug dealing, hostage situations, anything that might betray his / granny’s community standing

Sleeping Habits :-
each to there own of course, but I don’t know too many people who choose to be lying in the backyard at 3am
did TK just like to sleep under the stars ( although he told neighbour he just woke up)?
did he choose to sleep outside because a child was inside ?
did he want to be outside to monitor security ?
was he waiting for someone ?
Answers to many of these questions could lead to useful intel for Pol

MOO

I’d be very surprised if he’d let anyone but himself sleep in that doll shrine. It’s been assumed by many that because CS was rescued from a room while playing with toys, but not that it was the doll room. Those dolls don’t look like they’re there for playing

 

[Okapi]

I’d be very surprised if he’d let anyone but himself sleep in that doll shrine. It’s been assumed by many that because CS was rescued from a room while playing with toys, but not that it was the doll room. Those dolls don’t look like they’re there for playing

This brings me to a query that butterflied across my mind earlier - IIRC police removed a Bratz doll from the property. Does anyone have any ideas why one doll out of possibly scores of dolls was removed for examination? Is it too obvious to suggest it was played with or handled by someone else other than possibly the child?

 

[Warshawski]

IIRC, the owner of the shack with the camera said that he had often seen TK at the campground driving a 4 wheel drive, so this would be a third vehicle that he has been driving. Can't provide the reference as it is in the closed threads.

Terence Kelly previously seen driving around campsite, camper claims
Shannon Hampton and Daryna ZadvirnaThe West Australian
Sat, 6 November 2021 7:52PM

 

[styzrz]

I’d be very surprised if he’d let anyone but himself sleep in that doll shrine. It’s been assumed by many that because CS was rescued from a room while playing with toys, but not that it was the doll room. Those dolls don’t look like they’re there for playing

That’s a good point, I had fallen for that myself until you mentioned it.

 

[styzrz]

This brings me to a query that butterflied across my mind earlier - IIRC police removed a Bratz doll from the property. Does anyone have any ideas why one doll out of possibly scores of dolls was removed for examination? Is it too obvious to suggest it was played with or handled by someone else other than possibly the child?

I wondered if that was the only one we saw, other dolls could have been packed in boxes before they were removed.

 

[Warshawski]

I am kind of leaning towards that but it is baffling because of the very long scruffy beard he had when arrested.

In some of his FB pictures, clean shaven, he looks very feminine and could easily pass for a female. But how fast did he grow that scruffy beard?

IMO / experience, very dark haired men tend to grow their beards very quickly.

however , I think perhaps there’s quite some age difference between when this photo was taken for example



and this when going to Darwin:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

A Carnarvon man has told police that accused kidnapper TK asked for updates on CS when speaking with workers at an Aboriginal training and job seeking agency.
The West Australian understands Mr K had received training this year at Real Futures — which helps Indigenous people obtain employment — and visited the office four times a week.
“Every day he (went) there, he wanted updates,” the man told The West Australian.
When The West Australian visited the Real Futures office, a woman at the front desk said she would not comment on “hearsay”.
However, the man confirmed he told police of the claims.

accused-kidnapper-asked-for-updates-on-case

 

[Ozgal]

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Yeah I agree, upon thinking back I remneewd I lived in an older brick one many many years ago and heard everything but we were in a townhouse around 4 years ago, it’s similar to a duplex but neighbours both sides. I never heard anyone either side, except when they were in the front or back yard. I’m interested to see this new video of inside the neighbours house. Does anyone have a copy of it?

Was on channel 7 news, you can watch it via the 7plus app.

Here are 2 snapshots from the 6pm news edition of the layout of the duplex TK lived in

 

[PrimeSuspect]

WA Police have finished their investigations at the Carnarvon house where four-year-old CS was found last week, removing any sign of their presence and boarding up the door.

The focus of the investigation is now likely to move to inside a laboratory as all of the items collected are analysed and collated in preparation of the court proceedings for the man who is alleged to have abducted CS, 36-year-old TDK.

investigation-at-house-winds-up

 

[Ozgal]

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[mickey2942]

Interesting thanks for posting this and correcting me. But, I still wonder where he would have gotten the money for the Bratz dolls. Maybe he inherited some money from his grandmother? IDK. I mean judging by his cars they didn't have insurance. So why not have insurance? I could be wrong but is he on some kind of government assistance, I thought he was.

Theft? Maybe the dolls he didn't purchase online he stole? As for the cash, he could have had some odd jobs, for cash, that would not have interfered with collecting disability.