Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #3

[they'll get you]

Good clear view of back of home.

http://www.news.com.au/national/gol...ficult-to-police/story-fncynjr2-1227129128080

 

[sosocurious]

Ms Ryan also moved to have an affidavit which includes photo's and some of the transcript of the voice recording being suppressed. She said the dignity of those involved should be preserved.

I have been thinking about the voice recording and the timing of it's release to MSN and the words of O'Gorman at that time. Who is now defending GT.

If that voice recording had not been located in the door of Mr Tostee Snr's car.

What then?

The recording appears to be the evidence to imply that GT was not on the balcony at the time R'rie fell.

So if the recording had been deleted or the phone vanished and that recording not discovered.

The scenario would be;

* Neighbours hearing arguing, loud banging, and a woman sceaming, No,No,No,No............................ and that woman falling from the 14th floor balcony.

Phone records would have shown GT

* phoned his lawyer within seconds.
* he did not phone 000
* he phoned his father, who assisted GT to avoid immediate police attention. Why?

CCTV and/or witnesses would or may have placed GT:

* leaving the apartment immediately and avoiding police.
* his walking route
* his popping into a night club
* ordering and eating a pizza.
* his father becoming involved.

I am still not convinced an earlier call was not made to his father, given suppression of parts of the recorded transcript have been approved by the judge.

The prosecution suggested that R'rie may have been plied with dangerous home brewed alcohol, was GT consuming that same brew or was that for guests only?

Dad's intervention has ensured that GT's alcohol reading will never be known IMO.

Yet rehab is a part of the bail ...... based on what? His driving record.



http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...trict-conditions/story-fnj94j0t-1227127491700

 

[Ausgirl]

I honestly think rehab is a ploy to get him off at trial.

What irks me *most* about the gap between bail and trial (aside from him enjoying his freedom when he's done *everything* to demonstrate that he's likely to abuse it....) is that now he's got a chance to play that old "look how I've redeemed myself" chestnut --- rehab, abstinence (if he can stick to it)... and this WILL be a factor in how his trial plays out. Especially with *that* judge, I suspect....

So this dirtbag gets *time* to save himself from just consequences of his actions. Warriena gets *no time* for anything, ever, because she's dead. How's that justice.

 

[Amee]

Gable Tostee uses first day of freedom to visit a doctor on the Gold Coast

Wearing a plain white shirt and black shorts, Tostee was accompanied by his brother’s partner, who has also attended some of his court hearings.

He declined to speak with the Gold Coast Bulletin, instead walking expressionless into the busy waiting room and taking a seat in the front row after checking in at the front desk for his 11am appointment.

Other patients at the busy practice — some reading newspapers bearing Tostee’s photo on the front page — watched with interest as his doctor emerged within a few minutes and took him inside.


Police yesterday were unable to comment on what checks they had done to see whether Tostee was complying with the bail conditions, but said they were confident they could enforce them.

“We do bail checks all the time,” one officer said.

“Look at all those bikies we had on bail — we managed to keep track of them didn’t we?

“We do curfew checks in the middle of the night and RBTs.”

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...n-the-gold-coast/story-fnj94idh-1227129953053

white t-shirt, black shorts seems to be his dress code.....

 

[sleepinoz]

He's not going to last long - he's already opened his FB - it was closed yesterday. :jail:

 

[Snoods]

He's not going to last long - he's already opened his FB - it was closed yesterday. :jail:

He just can't help himself, can he? He'll be his own worst enemy. I wonder what his new handle will be on the Bodybuilding forum, my money is on DEFNOT G T....

 

[Snoods]

Well, it's a hot day. Mummy might let him out to run under the sprinkler. I can't see him venturing too far beyond for the time being - paranoia would have to be eating him up. Lots of big strapping Kiwis on the coast who would be keen to meet him. I reckon once he gets comfortable, the beach may appeal for an easy perv within curfew over schoolies/NY. Here's hoping he leaves camera phone at home! Feel sorry for Police who will be expected to offer him protection if he gets hassled. :notgood:

:floorlaugh: Camp Chair, your siggy is brilliant!

 

[SouthAussie]

He just can't help himself, can he? He'll be his own worst enemy. I wonder what his new handle will be on the Bodybuilding forum, my money is on DEFNOT G T....

:waitasec: Or maybe DEFNOT BALCONY BRAH .... seeing that is what they all now call him on that forum.

 

[they'll get you]

:waitasec: Or maybe DEFNOT BALCONY BRAH .... seeing that is what they all now call him on that forum.

It makes me bloody angry to think he's got till 10pm with his mates celebrating tonight.

THE LAW IS AN HUGE FAT !!

 

[sosocurious]

Mr Powers submission that Tostee's offending was caused by alcohol were not borne by the evidence and that Gray Tostee's actions on the night in helping his son avoid immediate police attention were significant.

Soraya Ryan said their client was "distressed and "reeling" and did not want to confront the police alone.
Yep!! that explains why he didn't phone 000 and called his lawyer and then took of for pizza.

The judge said GT appears to be "focused on himself" but that could change as the trial looms closer and he gains "greater insight."

IMO GT's focus will remain on GT and he being the victim...

R'rie - "Just let me go home."
GT - "I would but you have been a bad girl".



http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ostee-makes-bid-for-bail-20141118-11osq4.html

 

[Ausgirl]

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Soraya Ryan said their client was "distressed and "reeling" and did not want to confront the police alone.

This *might* hold more water, IF Daddy Tostee had driven his son straight to the police station. Rather than sitting in the car "where police can't see" them for how long, telling his son that he'd done nothing wrong and thinking up ways to blame the victim

 

[Snoods]

:waitasec: Or maybe DEFNOT BALCONY BRAH .... seeing that is what they all now call him on that forum.

Wow, there is even a **Balcony Brah Support Crew** and a 'Balcony Brah is out on bail, brahs thread'. SMDH. But, there are quite a few of them over there that seem to think he's guilty.

I have to make a confession. When I read y'all's posts here I read them in an Australian accent in my head. :giggle:

 

[Amee]

It makes me bloody angry to think he's got till 10pm with his mates celebrating tonight.

THE LAW IS AN HUGE FAT !!

I think that News.Com made a boo boo with the times. 10pm - 4am

This link says he isnt allowed out after dark and is only allowed outside of his parents house between 6am-6pm

From today, the bodybuilder and self-confessed womaniser is only allowed outside his parents house between 6am and 6pm.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ged-murder-Warriena-Wright.html#ixzz3Je2PcLKy

 

[SouthAussie]

Wow. Released into the care of someone who has previously helped him evade Police. I didn't realise just how ridiculous it sounded until I relayed it out loud to someone.

Regarding the 'random alcohol testing, but only on a Sunday' - was that the judge just relaying Tostee's preference or actually agreeing to it? Surely not??!!

So what will happen now that Tostee settles in for the night & starts catching up on what is being said about him online. I'm picturing a Tassie Devil style implosion. He'll feel like a drink.

BBM: I notice in the Daily Mail article it says that the random breath testing will happen at any time.

"Judge Debra Mullins said on Tuesday Tostee did not wish to be screened for alcohol on any day except Sunday, but he will be subject to random breath testing at any time of the day or night."

And I read in an article yesterday, that I cannot find now, that Qld police manage to monitor bikies quite well in this regard ... so I imagine that ole Gabe will be getting some/lots of that special police attention now. Especially as they wont be too happy about him being out on bail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ged-murder-Warriena-Wright.html#ixzz3Je2PcLKy

 

[SouthAussie]

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...ficult-to-police/story-fnje8bkv-1227129035025

 

[Ausgirl]

Neither top police nor the state’s attorney-general were able to say how they would enforce the condition yesterday.

^ from the link above.

Seriously. There's ways they could make 100% sure. Ban him from the internet. He's an accused murderer, how hard is it. The internet is NOT essential to his life. Why impose a ban that will cost thousands to monitor for a year, rather the relatively cost-free option of banning from all use?

Absolute rubbish, this bail decision in its entirety. Not a Mullins fan.

ETA:

Also, sick in my mouth a little bit on reading "ongoing counselling" :

Update - (13-2-2013) - On Wednesday morning, Justice Mullins published her reasons for granting Fardon release from jail under a strict supervision order.
She ordered that the decision of the Court of Appeal ruling - that Fardon was a "serious danger to the community" in the absence of an ongoing supervision order - be affirmed, but rescinded his continued detention since July 1, 2011.
Justice Mullins ordered Fardon be subject to 34 conditions as part of the supervised release order; including that he notify them of any intimate relationship; not visit any place that housed children or people with intellectual disabilities and that he continue ongoing counselling.

http://www.mako.org.au/robert_fardon.html

Look up this guy's atrocities. No wonder Tostee got a walk in the park bail agreement. :facepalm:

Here's an interesting question: where does she stand on civil liberties.... WHY did she rescind a 'never to be released" sentence for this serial, violent rapist of women and children? I would LOVE to know what her agenda was there. I really would.

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[possumheart]

Here's an interesting question: where does she stand on civil liberties.... WHY did she rescind a 'never to be released" sentence for this serial, violent rapist of women and children? I would LOVE to know what her agenda was there. I really would.
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RSBM
Very good question!!!!

 

[Ausgirl]

12-year tries to trigger his step-mother's life-threatening peanut allergy by putting peanuts in her toothpaste, knowing it could kill her. The kid's 12.. but still, this is attempted murder, by poisoning. Which he'd attempted to do *before* and been caught at it. What happened? Good behaviour bond.

Justice Mullins, in sentencing the boy, said: "Putting peanuts in her tube of toothpaste ... can be explained by attention seeking on your part."
"(However) I'm confident ... that you're likely to be able to stay out of trouble (in the future)."

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/boy...323771530?nk=017cc8b53f3215cc8be5449aea8fc9f5

How could the step mum have given her attention to anyone, had she DIED. :facepalm: And don't you love all these magic 8-ball predictions about how the seriously disturbed accused is going to behave in the future. One after another..

Anyway, I think I see a pattern emerging, wot.

 

[Deleted member 83851]

I agree, once you focus in on decisions made by Justice Mullins, a strange pattern emerges. I really can't get a grip on her reasoning, even by taking a libertarian view.
Perhaps she is informed by a kind of religion?

 

[SouthAussie]

ETA:

Also, sick in my mouth a little bit on reading "ongoing counselling" :

Update - (13-2-2013) - On Wednesday morning, Justice Mullins published her reasons for granting Fardon release from jail under a strict supervision order.
She ordered that the decision of the Court of Appeal ruling - that Fardon was a "serious danger to the community" in the absence of an ongoing supervision order - be affirmed, but rescinded his continued detention since July 1, 2011.
Justice Mullins ordered Fardon be subject to 34 conditions as part of the supervised release order; including that he notify them of any intimate relationship; not visit any place that housed children or people with intellectual disabilities and that he continue ongoing counselling.

http://www.mako.org.au/robert_fardon.html

Look up this guy's atrocities. No wonder Tostee got a walk in the park bail agreement. :facepalm:

Here's an interesting question: where does she stand on civil liberties.... WHY did she rescind a 'never to be released" sentence for this serial, violent rapist of women and children? I would LOVE to know what her agenda was there. I really would.

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Dan O'Gorman was Fardon's lawyer. Dan O'Gorman is Terry O'Gorman's brother. Just wanted to throw that bit of trivia in. :biggrin:


"The Da Silva brothers dragged The Courier-Mail to the Supreme Court, represented by high-profile civil libertarian, lawyer Terry O'Gorman and his QC brother Dan, in a legal bid to stop publication."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...inst-competitors/story-e6freoof-1226536463774