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looks like he needs rehab on so many levels :sick:
Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #3
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What a load of bull! He writes "I am thankful that it happened before something potentially much worse happened". What was Warriena's death then? The self delusion is incredible.
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I wondered for a sec if this disgusting piece of work "woman" had the same lawyers in tow as GT seeing as she's also on Gold Coast but it's a different bunch. What a flourishing little business "apology letter writing" must be!
Bus attack girl Larna Watmough writes apology letter to pensioner
September 17, 2014
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...-for-the-assault/story-fnje8bkv-1227062172639
Bus attack girl Larna Watmough writes apology letter to pensioner
September 17, 2014
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...-for-the-assault/story-fnje8bkv-1227062172639
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-Gable Tostee has been binge drinking since he was a 17-year-old Schoolie
-He thinks he's 'wittier' on alcohol and has been 'drowning myself with alcohol'
-He apologises in a handwritten note to police for being drunk and 'putting lives at risk' after he was stopped drink-driving
-The accused balcony murderer still plans to 'go out' while on bail
-Tostee has applied for a shortened, six-hour curfew from just 10pm to 4am
-He may not face trial for murdering Warriena Wright until 2017
-Police have graphic evidence from a 'crucial witness' about Ms Wright's last moments before she fell to her death from Tostee's 14th floor flat
-Tostee admits that being locked up has left him broke
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inge-drinking-Schoolies-17.html#ixzz3KeMYlQeQ
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-He thinks he's 'wittier' on alcohol and has been 'drowning myself with alcohol'
-He apologises in a handwritten note to police for being drunk and 'putting lives at risk' after he was stopped drink-driving
-The accused balcony murderer still plans to 'go out' while on bail
-Tostee has applied for a shortened, six-hour curfew from just 10pm to 4am
-He may not face trial for murdering Warriena Wright until 2017
-Police have graphic evidence from a 'crucial witness' about Ms Wright's last moments before she fell to her death from Tostee's 14th floor flat
-Tostee admits that being locked up has left him broke
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inge-drinking-Schoolies-17.html#ixzz3KeMYlQeQ
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How's his FORM, being so*incredibly lucky* to get Judge walkabout -- and THEN requesting his curfew be shortened so he can GO OUT and party some more.
Actually, I think the letter wins the ragefest sweepstakes today - wake up call, my rear end. What about Rrie? The letter was written after she died!!! I just want to kick him square in the goolies.
Actually, I think the letter wins the ragefest sweepstakes today - wake up call, my rear end. What about Rrie? The letter was written after she died!!! I just want to kick him square in the goolies.
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I find it really bizarre from the article posted above that they were unable to subdue him with the pepper spray after the police chase by car. Incredible adrenaline? Steroids? Psychopathy? All three? This guy IS dangerous in too many ways to count.
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The point of my sharing links to news articles I find isn't really to work so many people up, I sometimes wonder how news organisation like DailyMail get their hands on information such as this. My heart goes out Warriena's family because I am sure reading all this will just hurt them over and over again. It is painful to read that the trial is unlikely to proceed till late 2016, or early 2017. This date keeps shifting.
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Whoa ... so in reading the description in this article ... is it even possible for Rrie to have lowered herself in the way described? She was facing outwards! What on earth could she have been hanging onto? How does a person lower themselves facing outwards? I wonder how successful police were in their re-enactment?
'Her legs were there first ... it wasn't a lowering or a gentle, cautious ... she wasn't hanging on, she wasn't facing that way ... she wasn't facing that way to hold on.'
The police then repositioned the female officer re-enacting Ms Wright's fall, so that her 'feet were pointing away from the building, her back was towards the building ... and she was a little bit lower'.
Ms Ellis agreed that the female officer was in the right position and said Ms Wright had been 'flush against the building'.
'I couldn't see her upper body at all and she was out like that and um her legs had reached that point. I couldn't see her upper body and that's why I turned and said "I don't know what she's doing" because I was trying to work out is she trying to lower herself that way?'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-saw-feet-dangling-above.html#ixzz3KggzwxKo
^ The moment I saw the description of her feet in some of the very early articles, I KNEW he was out on that balcony with her. And I believe the 'metallic sound' of whatever he made her drop was made on the tiles of the balcony - there's no other tiled areas close to that balcony door that could produce such a sound.
2:20am: Just let me go home. Just let me go home.
2:20am: Last words of 'Just let me go home'
2:21am: Male – Heavy breathing
2:21am: Faint screaming detected.
2:21am: Very Heavy breathing from male.
^ Did he have the phone in his mouth? I'd love to hear this part for myself, to hear *how* heavy that breathing was (ie, was it super close to the mic). I think the relative volume of those sounds would speak a lot to what actually happened out there.
The police then repositioned the female officer re-enacting Ms Wright's fall, so that her 'feet were pointing away from the building, her back was towards the building ... and she was a little bit lower'.
Ms Ellis agreed that the female officer was in the right position and said Ms Wright had been 'flush against the building'.
'I couldn't see her upper body at all and she was out like that and um her legs had reached that point. I couldn't see her upper body and that's why I turned and said "I don't know what she's doing" because I was trying to work out is she trying to lower herself that way?'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-saw-feet-dangling-above.html#ixzz3KggzwxKo
^ The moment I saw the description of her feet in some of the very early articles, I KNEW he was out on that balcony with her. And I believe the 'metallic sound' of whatever he made her drop was made on the tiles of the balcony - there's no other tiled areas close to that balcony door that could produce such a sound.
2:20am: Just let me go home. Just let me go home.
2:20am: Last words of 'Just let me go home'
2:21am: Male – Heavy breathing
2:21am: Faint screaming detected.
2:21am: Very Heavy breathing from male.
^ Did he have the phone in his mouth? I'd love to hear this part for myself, to hear *how* heavy that breathing was (ie, was it super close to the mic). I think the relative volume of those sounds would speak a lot to what actually happened out there.
2:25am: Sound of metallic screwing or unscrewing
^ I also think whatever he was doing there had to do with hiding evidence of some sort. I mean, a girl just died -- what's among his *first* actions? Whatever produced that sound. What could he have been doing, that was so terribly important he'd spend time on it in such a circumstance?
^ I also think whatever he was doing there had to do with hiding evidence of some sort. I mean, a girl just died -- what's among his *first* actions? Whatever produced that sound. What could he have been doing, that was so terribly important he'd spend time on it in such a circumstance?
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Okay ... so he pushed her out onto the balcony, the balcony door clicked closed again ... then when did the door open again? Did it open before the three screams? Before Rrie's final scream? After her final scream? Is that recorded evidence still in the recording .. or has it mysteriously been edited out?
There is no way that Tostee did not go out onto that balcony again after locking Rrie out. He either went out to assist/force her on her way, or after the fact to see what happened. Otherwise how did he know she had 'fallen' to her death? Heard her scream .. three times .. saw her disappear, and just presumed she hit the ground? For all he knew, she could have caught onto a ledge or railing just below his balcony. He certainly did not rush down to attend to her .. he only went down to make his furtive escape.
Would a person just sit/stand inside and watch someone climb over their balcony? :no:
There is no way that Tostee did not go out onto that balcony again after locking Rrie out. He either went out to assist/force her on her way, or after the fact to see what happened. Otherwise how did he know she had 'fallen' to her death? Heard her scream .. three times .. saw her disappear, and just presumed she hit the ground? For all he knew, she could have caught onto a ledge or railing just below his balcony. He certainly did not rush down to attend to her .. he only went down to make his furtive escape.
Would a person just sit/stand inside and watch someone climb over their balcony? :no:
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I suspect that his phone was in his mouth because his hands were full. I don't buy sliding door stuff - it is a recording that was not found on the original device and the guy is a 'talented' counterfeiter with close access to audio post production 'talent'... who had sufficient time to access said talent.
And GOOD POINT about carpet being internal and tiles native to the balcony.
I reckon he took her out there, and dangled her off the edge facing outward from the building. Then *possibly* went inside to watch what happened next.
Just trying to extrapolate a sense of the timing, via recording + witness statement:
'I heard a girl say "I just, I just want to go home, please let me go home " and she was quite scared,' Ms Ellis said in the re-enactment for Gold Coast detectives.
Emily Ellis saw Ms Wright's 'legs dangling' from above in the Avalon Apartments (pictured)and then said, 'Oh God, she's coming over'
'We were trying to look out. We said 'it's right above us, there's something going on right above us here" ... because you could hear her. she was trying to get away, there was a lot of movement.
'We were trying to see what was going on and because of what we could hear I looked over and as I looked over ... I've said to Ryan ... "Oh God, she's coming over, she's coming over the balcony".
'I've said to [Ryan] "I don't, l don't know what, what is she doing? Like I don't know what she's doing".
'Cause I couldn't work out the logic of why she was the way she was. All I could see, cause I'm quite short ... I could see the bottom of her feet.
'I couldn't work out what why or what she was doing ... and she wasn't gripping either, she wasn't on a ledge, so um her feet were dangling. I couldn't work out, is she trying to get down, or was she trying to get somewhere else?
'And then by the time I've tried to work out what she was doing, was she trying to get down to another level or where she was going, um, she was gone, she'd fallen, she, there was just shock in her voice.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-saw-feet-dangling-above.html#ixzz3KgzlV8WN
2.18.46am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male, 'Let it go.'
2.19.35am: Sound of something dropping (metallic).
2.19am: Movement and rustling and sounds of female calling out. Sound consistent with door unlocking. ((((I question this))) Female states, 'No'. Possible sound of glass door being hit.
2.20.46am: Male: 'Who the f*** do you think you are? Hey?' Female: 'No, no, no. No! No no no.'
Male: 'You tried to kill me huh? Well, why did you try and hit me with that. Huh? Shut your filthy mouth.'
Female: 'No, no, no, no, no. (screaming).'
Male: 'It is all on recording you know. It is all being recorded.
Female: 'No no no no no no no no no no no no. Just let me go home.'
Male: 'I would but you have been a bad girl.' Sound of door sliding shut. (((I question this)))
2.20am: 'Just let me go home. Just let me go home.' Last words of 'just let me go home'. Male - heavy breathing. Faint scream detected.
2.21.23am: Very heavy breathing from male.
2.21.50am: Male makes call to lawyer Mick Purcell. Call made from handset. '(Expletive).' Call not connected.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-plus-happened-afterwards.html#ixzz3Kh11bOQJ
I reckon these two bits of information come together to show Tostee was indeed out on the balcony with Rrie. AND that he likely dangled her over the edge, face out, leaving her hanging by her hands.
At no stage does the witness say she saw Rrie doing anything that resembled "climbing". She also heard a struggle immediately before Rrie's legs appeared.
Just trying to extrapolate a sense of the timing, via recording + witness statement:
'I heard a girl say "I just, I just want to go home, please let me go home " and she was quite scared,' Ms Ellis said in the re-enactment for Gold Coast detectives.
Emily Ellis saw Ms Wright's 'legs dangling' from above in the Avalon Apartments (pictured)and then said, 'Oh God, she's coming over'
'We were trying to look out. We said 'it's right above us, there's something going on right above us here" ... because you could hear her. she was trying to get away, there was a lot of movement.
'We were trying to see what was going on and because of what we could hear I looked over and as I looked over ... I've said to Ryan ... "Oh God, she's coming over, she's coming over the balcony".
'I've said to [Ryan] "I don't, l don't know what, what is she doing? Like I don't know what she's doing".
'Cause I couldn't work out the logic of why she was the way she was. All I could see, cause I'm quite short ... I could see the bottom of her feet.
'I couldn't work out what why or what she was doing ... and she wasn't gripping either, she wasn't on a ledge, so um her feet were dangling. I couldn't work out, is she trying to get down, or was she trying to get somewhere else?
'And then by the time I've tried to work out what she was doing, was she trying to get down to another level or where she was going, um, she was gone, she'd fallen, she, there was just shock in her voice.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-saw-feet-dangling-above.html#ixzz3KgzlV8WN
2.18.46am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male, 'Let it go.'
2.19.35am: Sound of something dropping (metallic).
2.19am: Movement and rustling and sounds of female calling out. Sound consistent with door unlocking. ((((I question this))) Female states, 'No'. Possible sound of glass door being hit.
2.20.46am: Male: 'Who the f*** do you think you are? Hey?' Female: 'No, no, no. No! No no no.'
Male: 'You tried to kill me huh? Well, why did you try and hit me with that. Huh? Shut your filthy mouth.'
Female: 'No, no, no, no, no. (screaming).'
Male: 'It is all on recording you know. It is all being recorded.
Female: 'No no no no no no no no no no no no. Just let me go home.'
Male: 'I would but you have been a bad girl.' Sound of door sliding shut. (((I question this)))
2.20am: 'Just let me go home. Just let me go home.' Last words of 'just let me go home'. Male - heavy breathing. Faint scream detected.
2.21.23am: Very heavy breathing from male.
2.21.50am: Male makes call to lawyer Mick Purcell. Call made from handset. '(Expletive).' Call not connected.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-plus-happened-afterwards.html#ixzz3Kh11bOQJ
I reckon these two bits of information come together to show Tostee was indeed out on the balcony with Rrie. AND that he likely dangled her over the edge, face out, leaving her hanging by her hands.
At no stage does the witness say she saw Rrie doing anything that resembled "climbing". She also heard a struggle immediately before Rrie's legs appeared.
* When I say ((I question this)) - I'm wondering how anyone can distinguish a lock being unlocked, as opposed to being locked, or a door sliding open as opposed to sliding shut. So it could be vice versa?
I'm wondering what others think the sequence of events is, in those short moments, taking both witness and recording into account.
I'm wondering what others think the sequence of events is, in those short moments, taking both witness and recording into account.
Ditto, good point on the sound production. I truly hope the cops are having that recording looked at by a forensic audio person. They should be able to pick up whether the recording was adulterated in any way?
I actually think the "locked/unlocked" and "open/shut" issue is difficult, as that would all sound very similar on the recording - and so it might be open to interpretation.
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There is no evidence of Wrie trying the lock on the balcony door to get back in. One interpretation of that is she was too frightened, the other interpretation is that she was unable.
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