Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #6

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  • #201
I'm tipping Tostee will take the stand by Friday.

And can you explain how/why when he takes the stand (if he does) is of any significance?
 
  • #202
I think it is something you use to fix a pergola with... . ........

No, they are small self-adhesive finger-pads for strumming the double bass.
 
  • #203
Thursday, Friday...Monday.....what does it matter which day?

It doesn't matter which day. It could even be Tuesday. Who cares? I don't. If Tostee does take the stand he's only going to dribble lies, lies and more lies in my opinion.
 
  • #204
I was talking about what he said, the words he chose. No comparison to the example you just gave - he used a specific cause, you used a general cause. And I most certainly would not expect an innocent person to say that. Not. at. all.

BBM - bolded by me

Ta on the BBM.

I would expect that anyone in the immediate presence and alone when some person somehow manages to fall from said person's 14th Floor balcony to say exactly that to their Father when first advising the Father that the person had obviously met their death falling from said balcony. If they had nothing to do with it, I would wonder why, at the very first opportunity, they did not express innocence. It's is like the 'recent complaint' concept in a rape accusation where judicial eyebrows are raised quizzically if a complainant, at the first reasonable opportunity fails to complain of rape.
 
  • #205
It doesn't matter which day. It could be Tuesday. Who cares? I don't. If Tostee does take the stand he's only going to dribble lies, lies and more lies in my opinion.

he has painted himself into an unenviable corner..... the DNA , so far attested to, and most tellingly, not objected to or questioned by his defence barrister just doesn't add up to the story Gabe told,, either of them.. one to Dad , one to the police, and I think , one to his first barrister who he subsequently dropped,... ... who no doubt collected his fees well before Gabe could try this antic on.. Barristers are usually run by savage and skeevy accountants who collect first before a pen is lifted........ . . as it should be., as God intended.
 
  • #206
Ta on the BBM.

I would expect that anyone in the immediate presence and alone when some person somehow manages to fall from said person's 14th Floor balcony to say exactly that to their Father when first advising the Father that the person had obviously met their death falling from said balcony. If they had nothing to do with it, I would wonder why, at the very first opportunity, they did not express innocence. It's is like the 'recent complaint' concept in a rape accusation where judicial eyebrows are raised quizzically if a complainant, at the first reasonable opportunity fails to complain of rape.

This isn't about rape. It's about murder. <modsnip>
 
  • #207
Ta on the BBM.I would expect that anyone in the immediate presence and alone when some person somehow manages to fall from said person's 14th Floor balcony to say exactly that to their Father when first advising the Father that the person had obviously met their death falling from said balcony. If they had nothing to do with it, I would wonder why, at the very first opportunity, they did not express innocence. It's is like the 'recent complaint' concept in a rape accusation where judicial eyebrows are raised quizzically if a complainant, at the first reasonable opportunity fails to complain of rape.
The wonderful place that Websleuths is...we can all have different opinions. So I happily decline to agree and respect your right to not agree with me. We clearly have very different thoughts about what is to be expected in a situation like this. It's the linguistics I have an issue with, not that he declined responsibility. It's the SPECIFIC words he chose. My expectation would be for someone to describe to me, recall, what happened. She did this, I did this, etc. He instead stated he didn't push her. Very different.
 
  • #208
Innocent until proven guilty does not mean people can't have opinions. Expecting someone to lie on the stand does not equate to Tostee not getting a fair trial.
 
  • #209
The wonderful place that Websleuths is...we can all have different opinions. So I happily decline to agree and respect your right to not agree with me. We clearly have very different thoughts about what is to be expected in a situation like this. It's the linguistics I have an issue with, not that he declined responsibility. It's the SPECIFIC words he chose. My expectation would be for someone to describe to me, recall, what happened. She did this, I did this, etc. He instead stated he didn't push her. Very different.

One size does not fit all. Different people react in different ways. What would be the point in going into a nuts and bolt discussion with the Father when all he (or anyone like him) wanted to do was get with the Father as soon possible after providing the Father with a broad explanation for the telephone call in the 'wee' hours.
 
  • #210
Innocent until proven guilty does not mean people can't have opinions. Expecting someone to lie on the stand does not equate to Tostee not getting a fair trial.

that phrase, innocent until proven guilty has no place outside a courtroom.. no place at all, and has no validity unless decreed by a judge to a jury.. it is the sort of thing the uneducated tend to spout with monotonous regularity, when stuck for words.. for those of us on the street it is imperative to understand precisely the difference between the courtroom and the general world., and never confuse the two.
 
  • #211
Innocent until proven guilty does not mean people can't have opinions. Expecting someone to lie on the stand does not equate to Tostee not getting a fair trial.

Sure, express your opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but it is preferable, surely, that it be backed up with some hard evidence <modsnip>.
 
  • #212
One size does not fit all. Different people react in different ways. What would be the point in going into a nuts and bolt discussion with the Father when all he (or anyone like him) wanted to do was get with the Father as soon possible after providing the Father with a broad explanation for the telephone call in the 'wee' hours.

Maybe a pizza party too?
 
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Okay folks ... almost 30 posts removed due to bickering, snark, personalizing.

Post according to TOS or face a loss of posting privileges.

:tyou:
 
  • #215
Andrew Kos &#8207;@AndrewNKos [video=twitter;786068386505711616]https://twitter.com/AndrewNKos/status/786068386505711616[/video]
These are the pictures tendered to the court of #Tostee's injuries taken when he reported to police @ABCNewsBrisbane

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  • #216
Kate Kyriacou &#8207;@KateKyriacou [video=twitter;786080705021407233]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786080705021407233[/video]
The court has released the Tinder messages sent between Tostee and Warriena - sent between August 1 and 7.
 
  • #217
Kate Kyriacou &#8207;@KateKyriacou [video=twitter;786080925574725632]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786080925574725632[/video]
Tostee to Warriena: You look delicious. I want to do dirty things to you.
 
  • #218
Kate Kyriacou &#8207;@KateKyriacou [video=twitter;786081250255761409]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786081250255761409[/video]
Tostee to Warriena: So you're down with that then? Can you be a freak in the sheets Cletes? (sic) Warriena: Lol probably not. Depends.
 
  • #219
Kate Kyriacou &#8207;@KateKyriacou [video=twitter;786081439280488448]https://twitter.com/KateKyriacou/status/786081439280488448[/video]
Tostee to Warriena: Let's get drunk together, I'm a pornstar after a few drinks!
 
  • #220
'Prange' is a mis-spelt 'prang' for those inquiring minds.
 
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