Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #72

[drsleuth]

This extract from the LH podcast
It’s seems the fFc has doubled up on her version of the timeline that morning. Was that to fill in time when she took that drive to Barak creek rd.
Is it possible that L went back outside “with grandma watching” after writing message on her card and W stayed inside with Ffc . Ffc and W leave Benaroon drive and only Ffc returns. When she returns she says to fgm “Is W Here?” Fgm replies “why would he be here” that’s a reasonable response in that situation

Then back inside
Then out on the patio with crayons and paper to do drawing
Iconic last photos of W were taken
W lost interest in drawing pictures and rolling dice
Kids and Ffc Went back inside
Ffc asks kids if they want to write messages on cards for opa
Ffc wrote on L card
W didn’t want to write anything so went back outside to porch with gm watching
Ffc and Lindsay soon joined them outside
L tipped crayon box over and dice fell out.
Started to play a game with the dice
William got bored very quickly then rolled around on the grass pretending to be a tiger then went around the side of the house roaring

BBM : do you have a link for this please?

 

[Couldbe]

Thanks Couldbe good to know. Seems the drive took place closer to 10am (time Detective Beecroft gave at inquest and time the Crabbs heard a car). If that drive took roughly 25min, half hr then it fits in with Ffc time of w missing from 10:30 (the time when Ffc asked fgm “is W here”)

Verrry interesting Chrissy

 

[Couldbe]

DBM

 

[Couldbe]

DBM = double post

 

[drsleuth]

Perhaps she did explain the situation and they had to look things over themselves before being ready to interview her more carefully? No point hanging around until they were ready to take background when she could be finding William playing in a shed or stuck up a tree or injured and unconscious.

Senior Const Chris Rowley gave evidence that he met 2 women walking in the street ( AMS & FFC ) , he stopped them, he took quick details from the FFC & met up again with them @ # 48

 

[Chrissy74]

BBM : do you have a link for this please?

https://m.youtube.com › watchWhere's William Tyrrell | Ep. 1 | The Little Boy In The Spiderman Suit

 

[drsleuth]

https://m.youtube.com › watchWhere's William Tyrrell | Ep. 1 | The Little Boy In The Spiderman Suit

Thanks. A timestamp too?

 

[Chrissy74]

Thanks. A timestamp too?

The time stamp is the order in which the story is told. LH describes in her podcast the events that took place that morning in Chronological order

 

[SouthAussie]

The time stamp is the order in which the story is told. LH describes in her podcast the events that took place that morning in Chronological order

I think drsleuth means the time in the podcast where your narrative starts.
A podcast link is most useful when we know where to begin listening to what your post states.
I'd like to listen also, if you can provide the time in the video where it starts. TIA

 

[Chrissy74]

I think drsleuth means the time in the podcast where your narrative starts.
A link is most useful when we know where to begin listening to what your post states.
I'd like to listen also, if you can provide the time in the video where it starts. TIA

Best to listen to the entire podcast that way nothing can be taken out of context

 

[SouthAussie]

Best to listen to the entire podcast that way nothing can be taken out of context

There is actually WS etiquette involved, so that others don't have to go through entire videos and podcasts looking for what has been stated. TIA


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[Megnut]

Dbm

 

[Megnut]

https://m.youtube.com › watchWhere's William Tyrrell | Ep. 1 | The Little Boy In The Spiderman Suit

Thanks. A timestamp too?

I think drsleuth means the time in the podcast where your narrative starts.
A podcast link is most useful when we know where to begin listening to what your post states.
I'd like to listen also, if you can provide the time in the video where it starts. TIA

The discussion of the events just prior to Wm's disappearance

34.00 and following

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

The discussion of the events just prior to Wm's disappearance

34.00 and following

JMO

Thank you.

So, no mention of "When she returns she says to fgm “Is W Here?” Fgm replies “why would he be here” " in that segment.

I had the impression from Chrissy's post that those statements are in that podcast. I just don't recall hearing that before and am interested in the source of the info. Or if it is conjecture.

 

[FromGermany1]

I'm going to ask this again. The female caregiver took a drive that morning and was observed leaning out (the car window?), so odd that the passing (oncoming?) did or didn't stop to see if she needed help.

Could she have opened her car door at a sewer grate, lowered Wm in and was throwing gloves or something into the same, just as the other driver came upon her?

Why did she stop  there? What appeal or purpose did that spot hold?

Leaning out the window, looking out/calling out for Wm... that smacks to me as a presplain. What did that driver nearly catch her doing????

If we satellite that stretch of road, will we find curb, gutter and a sewer grate?

Consider: if that notable event (the driver seeing her), would she have ever included mention of that drive? (She certainly didn't, for the emergency operator.)

Why?

I fear the answer.

I fear it and I think it explains why we're still here today. It's why Wm is missing.

JMO

I think, the blonde woman with a bun on her head waited there for little W and FFC. The woman would have been sitting in a white Toyota Landcruiser probably, which was later seen by RC driving very fast. FFC might have identified herself as one of the people, who were involved in the unlawful "transmission" of little W. (not as being his foster mother). Somewhere unknown there seems to have waited another car with a male driver: The Toyota was followed by a “light blue” and “fairly large” sedan, he (RC) said.
MOO and my speculation.

'I'm sure it was William Tyrrell': witness tells inquest he saw missing boy in car

Kendall resident Ronald Chapman says he saw the child in the back of a fast-moving vehicle on the day he went missing

www.theguardian.com

 

[SLouTh]

https://m.youtube.com › watchWhere's William Tyrrell | Ep. 1 | The Little Boy In The Spiderman Suit

Chrissy are you sure it is in Episode 1??? I can’t find it in that episode …

I have also just listened to Episode 3 as well, and I can’t find it in there either???

This is the part that I, and others were looking for in particular…

“When she returns she says to fgm “Is W Here?” Fgm replies “why would he be here”

As that info appears to be new information …..


Thanks

 

[SouthAussie]

I think there must be some confusion. FD was the one who said "why would he be with me". Not FGM.

Foster father's reaction after his three-year-old had vanished

William Tyrrell's foster father says he started searching 'everywhere' when he got home from a business meeting in 2014 and his wife asked 'Is William with you?'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

imo

 

[Chrissy74]

Chrissy are you sure it is in Episode 1??? I can’t find it in that episode …

I have also just listened to Episode 3 as well, and I can’t find it in there either???

This is the part that I, and others were looking for in particular…

“When she returns she says to fgm “Is W Here?” Fgm replies “why would he be here”

As that info appears to be new

Chrissy are you sure it is in Episode 1??? I can’t find it in that episode …

I have also just listened to Episode 3 as well, and I can’t find it in there either???

This is the part that I, and others were looking for in particular…

“When she returns she says to fgm “Is W Here?” Fgm replies “why would he be here”

As that info appears to be new information …..


Thanks

https://m.youtube.com › watchAUDIO_2GB_9_Chris Smith talks to William Tyrrell's parents_September 18 ...

2:50min

 

[Chrissy74]

Thank you.

So, no mention of "When she returns she says to fgm “Is W Here?” Fgm replies “why would he be here” " in that segment.

I had the impression from Chrissy's post that those statements are in that podcast. I just don't recall hearing that before and am interested in the source of the info. Or if it is conjecture.

https://m.youtube.com › watchAUDIO_2GB_9_Chris Smith talks to William Tyrrell's parents_September 18 ...

2:50min

 

[Megnut]

Question: after the foster grandma noted the delay/absence of both Wm and the female caregiver, she went in search of them. Where did she go next?

Did she return to the deck and that's where the female caregiver encountered her, with the query, "is Wm here?"

In between those times (when both Wm and the female caregiver went off the deck and when the female caregiver reappeared to the foster grandma), did the foster grandma alert others in the neighborhood, perhaps creating a not-imtended but organic phone tree?

There seems to be some overlap and some duplication of events, lending to confusion. Perhaps some of that blurring wasn't accidental.

JMO