Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

[iailwa]

I attempted to post my word document as a blog, & it was looking good but there's some structural problems since I used a table format. Almost every case has it's own row -- but not all, and that's where it has stuffed up. Easy enough to fix -- just a bit more time needed! I actually have an exam soon, in the next few days, so I'll fix it after...

 

[iailwa]

Hahaha ... too funny, iailwa.

haha, i know right, i couldn't think of anything else to say

 

[Bohemian]

I attempted to post my word document as a blog, & it was looking good but there's some structural problems since I used a table format. Almost every case has it's own row -- but not all, and that's where it has stuffed up. Easy enough to fix -- just a bit more time needed! I actually have an exam soon, in the next few days, so I'll fix it after...

Thanks iailwa, I appreciate your hard work. Good luck with your exam. Take your time and you really should be studying (but, then again, when I had an assignment or major exam looming, I’d distract myself by spending a lot of time at the gym!)

 

[SouthAussie]

It could also be a term used by Jubes that only the kidnapper or their associates would understand.

I have always wondered what was found on Spedding's computer hard drive. If this is what sparked the formation of Rosann 2. If this is what made the police realise that there perhaps was a large network in the area, and further (Victoria), that needed to be dealt with. If it gave them the first impression that there may be a pedophile ring.

If it was double-speak conversation they found - using code words and nicknames - and not necessarily photos, no immediate charges could be laid for that. But it certainly could warrant further investigation.


Police seized a mattress and a computer among other items in the search of Mr Spedding's home, pawnbroker business and unit in the nearby town of Laurieton this week.
The items will go through forensic examination.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-s...f-toddler-william-tyrell-20150123-12wpef.html

 

[Bohemian]

I have always wondered what was found on Spedding's computer hard drive. If this is what sparked the formation of Rosann 2. If this is what made the police realise that there perhaps was a large network in the area, and further (Victoria), that needed to be dealt with. If it gave them the first impression that there may be a pedophile ring.

If it was double-speak conversation they found, and not necessarily photos, no immediate charges could be laid for that. But it certainly could warrant further investigation.


Police seized a mattress and a computer among other items in the search of Mr Spedding's home, pawnbroker business and unit in the nearby town of Laurieton this week.
The items will go through forensic examination.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-s...f-toddler-william-tyrell-20150123-12wpef.html

Could be. I found this article a while ago but it was published three months after police turned over BS’ properties:

‘CRIMINAL psychologists involved in the investigation into the disappearance of toddler William Tyrell helped unearth a paedophile ring operating in the area where he disappeared.

It is understood police have identified several people they suspect to be involved in the paedophile ring operating in the north coast area around Kendall, where three-year-old William (pictured) disappeared more than seven months ago.’

Read more at:

Paedophile link to boy
http://territorystories.nt.gov.au/bitstream/10070/256507/4/NTN19APR15PG004-MAI-COLOUR-PRIMARY.PDF

 

[iailwa]

Thanks iailwa, I appreciate your hard work. Good luck with your exam. Take your time and you really should be studying (but, then again, when I had an assignment or major exam looming, I’d distract myself by spending a lot of time at the gym!)

Thanks dear. For some reason WT is my distraction - the exam should not be too hard & i will finish looking at the module tomorrow. Hopefully after i go to the gym

 

[SouthAussie]

Could be. I found this article a while ago but it was published three months after police turned over BS’ properties:

‘CRIMINAL psychologists involved in the investigation into the disappearance of toddler William Tyrell helped unearth a paedophile ring operating in the area where he disappeared.

It is understood police have identified several people they suspect to be involved in the paedophile ring operating in the north coast area around Kendall, where three-year-old William (pictured) disappeared more than seven months ago.’

Read more at:

Paedophile link to boy
http://territorystories.nt.gov.au/bitstream/10070/256507/4/NTN19APR15PG004-MAI-COLOUR-PRIMARY.PDF

However, I notice that it says "The experts were brought in soon after the three-year-old William vanished on September 12."


This other article about it also says ...

“Like in the Tyrrell matter, where we believe it’s a stranger abduction, there are certain conclusions that can be drawn from a psychological perspective.”
Det-Insp Jubelin said criminal psychologists were rarely used in homicide investigations and only on request from detectives on the case.

Det-Insp Jubelin would not comment on how investigators discovered the paedophile ring, but said it was a combination of public information and police intelligence.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...g/news-story/3ddc55632d23c0ee4d51456735f3edc3

 

[Bohemian]

However, I notice that it says "The experts were brought in soon after the three-year-old William vanished on September 12."


This other article about it also says ...

“Like in the Tyrrell matter, where we believe it’s a stranger abduction, there are certain conclusions that can be drawn from a psychological perspective.”
Det-Insp Jubelin said criminal psychologists were rarely used in homicide investigations and only on request from detectives on the case.

Det-Insp Jubelin would not comment on how investigators discovered the paedophile ring, but said it was a combination of public information and police intelligence.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...g/news-story/3ddc55632d23c0ee4d51456735f3edc3

Interesting, isn’t it?

ETA.

There was also the investigation into GAPA and the relationship between AJ and PB around that time:

’GAPA's former president Paul Bickford, who stepped down last year, has been charged with the indecent assault of a child.

Another former GAPA member, Anthony Jones of Wauchope, has also been charged with indecent assault.

It is understood he was charged shortly after William vanished from his grandmother's yard in Kendall on September 12, 2014.’

William Tyrrell investigation turns to grandparent support groups
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...andparent-support-groups-20150905-gjfrug.html​

 

[iailwa]

Does anyone recognise the location of this picture? Taken on a "Walk for William" location by a Sydney Telegraph Photographer (i think)

 

[iailwa]

Interesting, isn’t it?

ETA.

There was also the investigation into GAPA and the relationship between AJ and PB around that time:

’GAPA's former president Paul Bickford, who stepped down last year, has been charged with the indecent assault of a child.

Another former GAPA member, Anthony Jones of Wauchope, has also been charged with indecent assault.

It is understood he was charged shortly after William vanished from his grandmother's yard in Kendall on September 12, 2014.’

William Tyrrell investigation turns to grandparent support groups
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...andparent-support-groups-20150905-gjfrug.html​

Wasn't BS also a member? if I remember correctly?

 

[sosocurious]

Interesting, isn’t it?

ETA.

There was also the investigation into GAPA and the relationship between AJ and PB around that time:

’GAPA's former president Paul Bickford, who stepped down last year, has been charged with the indecent assault of a child.

Another former GAPA member, Anthony Jones of Wauchope, has also been charged with indecent assault.

It is understood he was charged shortly after William vanished from his grandmother's yard in Kendall on September 12, 2014.’

William Tyrrell investigation turns to grandparent support groups
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...andparent-support-groups-20150905-gjfrug.html​

From your link Bo.

Mr Battishall said the men left GAPA as soon as members found out about the alleged assaults, which he said occurred before William disappeared.

The assaults before William disappeared and the charges after.

 

[sosocurious]

Wasn't BS also a member? if I remember correctly?

This one I think.

Police also turned their attention to another local support group, believed to be the Grandparent and Kinship Care Association.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...andparent-support-groups-20150905-gjfrug.html

 

[iailwa]

This one I think.

Police also turned their attention to another local support group, believed to be the Grandparent and Kinship Care Association.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...andparent-support-groups-20150905-gjfrug.html

The way i read this suggests he was not a part of the first group, but i'm unsure of the 2nd group -- all confusing to me!

 

[frogwell]

From your link Bo.

Mr Battishall said the men left GAPA as soon as members found out about the alleged assaults, which he said occurred before William disappeared.

The assaults before William disappeared and the charges after.

I was under the impression that TJ had been charged with the assaults before WT went missing but was awaiting , court and sentencing?

 

[Green beans]

Does anyone recognise the location of this picture? Taken on a "Walk for William" location by a Sydney Telegraph Photographer (i think)

I could be mistaken but that looks like Geelong? The statues and pier look like Geelong ( coastal town in Victoria)

 

[Bohemian]

Does anyone recognise the location of this picture? Taken on a "Walk for William" location by a Sydney Telegraph Photographer (i think)

In an image search it comes up here:

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...l/news-story/94217d7f2fead4299bdc7a735580f1d0

But if you click on the link, it’s not there.

 

[Bohemian]

From your link Bo.

Mr Battishall said the men left GAPA as soon as members found out about the alleged assaults, which he said occurred before William disappeared.

The assaults before William disappeared and the charges after.

Was AJ and PB’s connection the catalyst for the ‘paedophile ring’ Investigation, due to BS’ connection to AJ?

 

[Bohemian]

I could be mistaken but that looks like Geelong? The statues and pier look like Geelong ( coastal town in Victoria)

i think you’re right Gb. The photo links to a Geelong Advertiser article. If you type “Walk 4 William Geelong” into Google images, the photo is in the results but isn’t in the linked MSM article.

 

[SouthAussie]

I was under the impression that TJ had been charged with the assaults before WT went missing but was awaiting , court and sentencing?

This description of a rap sheet says the date mentioned is the date of arrest.

rap sheet
:a police arrest record especially for an individual
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rap sheet


And Jones' rap sheet apparently shows the arrest as August 6, 2015. Then he was jailed (for aggravated indecent assault on a minor) in September, about 5 or 6 weeks later. Pretty quick court case, if that is the case. Perhaps he pled guilty at his very first hearing, or perhaps that was due to his extensive criminal history? He has had more than 90 offences in NSW.


BBM

TONY JONES (SELECTED) RAP SHEET

September 2, 1974: Break, enter and steal (Dubbo)

November 11, 1974: Assault (hit) a child under 12 (Wellington)

December 4, 1975: Escape lawful custody (Bathurst)

February 10, 1977: Stealing (Wellington)

March 31, 1981: Larceny motor vehicle; maliciously set fire to motor vehicle (Lithgow)

February 11, 1983: Escape lawful custody (Sydney)

February 12, 1987: Malicious injury (Wellington)

July 16, 1987: Malicious injury (Wellington)

August 25, 1987: Assault (Wellington)

October 22, 1987: Assault female, two counts (Wellington)

February 23, 1989: Assault female (Wellington)

December 1, 1989: Assault female (Wellington)

June 15, 1990: Assault (Orange)

May 17, 1991: Administering a prohibited drug; drug possession; obtain property by deception (Broken Hill)

October 12, 1995: Stealing (Dubbo)

October 17, 1996: Break, enter and steal, two counts (Bathurst)

June 17, 1996: Offensive use of telecommunication service (Bathurst)

January 19, 1998: Intimidate police officer; resist police officer (Dubbo)

November 6, 2003: Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (Wellington)

April 6, 2004: Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (Dubbo)

May 8, 2015: Breaching AVO (Port Macquarie)

August 6, 2015: Aggravated indecent assault, two counts (Port Macquarie)

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...d/news-story/fb7ae6ce7b6a5900f612dfae3b6ca450

 

[Bohemian]

This description of a rap sheet says the date mentioned is the date of arrest.

rap sheet
:a police arrest record especially for an individual
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rap sheet


And Jones' rap sheet apparently shows the arrest as August 6, 2015. Then he was jailed (for aggravated indecent assault on a minor) in September, about 5 or 6 weeks later. Pretty quick court case, if that is the case. Perhaps he pled guilty at his very first hearing, or perhaps that was due to his extensive criminal history? He has had more than 90 offences in NSW.


BBM

TONY JONES (SELECTED) RAP SHEET

September 2, 1974: Break, enter and steal (Dubbo)

November 11, 1974: Assault (hit) a child under 12 (Wellington)

December 4, 1975: Escape lawful custody (Bathurst)

February 10, 1977: Stealing (Wellington)

March 31, 1981: Larceny motor vehicle; maliciously set fire to motor vehicle (Lithgow)

February 11, 1983: Escape lawful custody (Sydney)

February 12, 1987: Malicious injury (Wellington)

July 16, 1987: Malicious injury (Wellington)

August 25, 1987: Assault (Wellington)

October 22, 1987: Assault female, two counts (Wellington)

February 23, 1989: Assault female (Wellington)

December 1, 1989: Assault female (Wellington)

June 15, 1990: Assault (Orange)

May 17, 1991: Administering a prohibited drug; drug possession; obtain property by deception (Broken Hill)

October 12, 1995: Stealing (Dubbo)

October 17, 1996: Break, enter and steal, two counts (Bathurst)

June 17, 1996: Offensive use of telecommunication service (Bathurst)

January 19, 1998: Intimidate police officer; resist police officer (Dubbo)

November 6, 2003: Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (Wellington)

April 6, 2004: Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (Dubbo)

May 8, 2015: Breaching AVO (Port Macquarie)

August 6, 2015: Aggravated indecent assault, two counts (Port Macquarie)

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...d/news-story/fb7ae6ce7b6a5900f612dfae3b6ca450

Might refer to date of conviction, rather than arrest:

’An active pedophile was arrested by police on the NSW mid-north coast just two weeks after three-year-old William Tyrrell disappeared last year.

Former truck driver Anthony Jones, 59, has pleaded guilty to the aggravated indecent assault of an 11-year-old girl. He will be sentenced on Monday.’

Another William Tyrrell person of interest
DAN BOX
The Australian
12:00AM September 12, 2015
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...t/news-story/1743cf18eadd8bc4b860a6ae7cbf6d76​