Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #30

[papertrail]

On eroll 1980 there is a William harrie spedding and address is indicated at sac airfield wedderburn nsw. There is a woman listed there as well. Was this woman his 1st spouse and given she is no longer in the picture with bill spedding is she somehow connected to one of his acquaintances?

 

[SouthAussie]

As I said anyway you want to spin it

Just jumping off your post, Hbayne ..... I think naming a POI and allowing the media the kind of access they have allowed to Spedding, says a whole lot more than "one of 600 POI".

Some POI are at the top of the list. Some POI are having their details checked out because they lived on the street and were/were not home that day (for example), or their car was seen on CCTV driving past the tennis courts (another example).

It has been a long, long time since I have seen the police use the word 'suspect' in a current case. People these days are POIs or are 'helping the police with their investigation'.

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[sleepinoz]

On eroll 1980 there is a William harrie spedding and address is indicated at sac airfield wedderburn nsw. There is a woman listed there as well. Was this woman his 1st spouse and given she is no longer in the picture with bill spedding is she somehow connected to one of his acquaintances?

Yes she is the first, not second or third.

Connected to one of his acquaintances? Do you mean the current trial? If so NO.

 

[bearbear]

IMO i have thought if someone grabbed WT they would of had to of been in very close proximity to see all that was going on there. And wasn't FM out there earlier with WT when he was up the tree? If someone was waiting & watching them, they would of seen an adult was supervising the child, so what would make them think WT would be out there all by himself out of sight of any adult for them to get him?

maybe the person was lying in the bushes hidden, watching the children, and william came within arms reach, so they grabbed him, hand over mouth etc etc then quickly sped out of the street with him to any of the local dense secluded bush areas then straight home again before anyone noticed, and the search was probably only just starting by then and probably no police on the scene that early either

 

[bearbear]

So if Spedding was repairing a washing machine in Dunbogan shortly after William went missing, as stated in the MSM article i just posted up, i would think whoever's washing machine he repaired would also have been questioned by LE to verify that story?

bs has given a lot of alibis as to where he was that morning etc and had his places and vehicles, computer etc searched but is still a poi?
surely if he was found to be telling the truth and police found nothing he would be cleared from the poi list and shouting it from the rooftops?

 

[SouthAussie]

maybe the person was lying in the bushes hidden, watching the children, and william came within arms reach, so they grabbed him, hand over mouth etc etc then quickly sped out of the street with him to any of the local dense secluded bush areas then straight home again before anyone noticed, and the search was probably only just starting by then and probably no police on the scene that early either

Sometimes these creeps just grab a quick opportunity when it presents itself. No prior consideration. No adults within reach, a child within reach ... that is all they need.

We have all heard it before ... someone in KMart assaulted a child, who was in a different aisle than mum. A creep can walk into a public bathroom and assault an alone child.

I know I have mentioned before about a creep a few years ago (it was in MSM here in Australia) who sexually assaulted a little girl who was waiting near adult cricket practise. She was alone on one side of a fence, the cricketers were out on the field on the other side. She was assaulted in view of the adults, and by the time they saw and got to her, the creep had fled.

I don't know if the police ever caught up with him.

 

[Karinna]

bs has given a lot of alibis as to where he was that morning etc and had his places and vehicles, computer etc searched but is still a poi?
surely if he was found to be telling the truth and police found nothing he would be cleared from the poi list and shouting it from the rooftops?

I am not aware of LE clearing POI's in a criminal case personally or publically? They don't tend to do that to my knowledge. And they most likely in WT's case haven't really cleared anyone regardless of what they have told the public until WT's whereabouts becomes known and he is located, and the perpetrator/s caught. How can they know what happened to William if they don't know? All IMO.

 

[Wexford]

bs has given a lot of alibis as to where he was that morning etc and had his places and vehicles, computer etc searched but is still a poi?
surely if he was found to be telling the truth and police found nothing he would be cleared from the poi list and shouting it from the rooftops?

And it was his alibis not checking out which caused LE to question him further. That and the tip off from the mother of his foster kids about his history. Although one wonders how she found out he was there and being questioned in the first place. It wasn't released to the papers until they knew he had a history. someone was very quick to let her know.

 

[sleepinoz]

I am not aware of LE clearing POI's in a criminal case personally or publically? They don't tend to do that to my knowledge. And they most likely in WT's case haven't really cleared anyone regardless of what they have told the public until WT's whereabouts becomes known and he is located, and the perpetrator/s caught. How can they know what happened to William if they don't know? All IMO.

In the documentary of the Jill Meagher case, Det Snr Sgt David Butler explains how important it is to clear someone to the media. @ 10:00

He basically says - If we never solved the case the important thing is we can front the media and say 'it's not him' and we've proven without any doubt it's not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDTSqRv0fng

It happens in many cases. They can be family, acquaintances or anyone. In the majority of cases it tends to be family.

I personally think that Police don't name POI's/Suspects in many cases because it interferes with their investigation.

The Police didn't name BS, MSM did. Police confirmed that he was a POI and that he still is, along with others.

 

[Hbayne]

In the documentary of the Jill Meagher case, Det Snr Sgt David Butler explains how important it is to clear someone to the media. @ 10:00

He basically says - If we never solved the case the important thing is we can front the media and say 'it's not him' and we've proven without any doubt it's not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDTSqRv0fng

It happens in many cases. They can be family, acquaintances or anyone. In the majority of cases it tends to be family.

I personally think that Police don't name POI's/Suspects in many cases because it interferes with their investigation.

The Police didn't name BS, MSM did. Police confirmed that he was a POI and that he still is, along with others.

Good work sleep. Good to have examples .

 

[papertrail]

I didn't know that. How were JH and the victim related?

They were not related in any way. Read the court transcript here

https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/.../652.html?context=1;query=Hillsley;mask_path=

 

[Karinna]

In the documentary of the Jill Meagher case, Det Snr Sgt David Butler explains how important it is to clear someone to the media. @ 10:00

He basically says - If we never solved the case the important thing is we can front the media and say 'it's not him' and we've proven without any doubt it's not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDTSqRv0fng

It happens in many cases. They can be family, acquaintances or anyone. In the majority of cases it tends to be family.

I personally think that Police don't name POI's/Suspects in many cases because it interferes with their investigation.

The Police didn't name BS, MSM did. Police confirmed that he was a POI and that he still is, along with others.

Yes and LE have stated after BS was investigated by them there were hundreds of other POI's in this case as well. BS was a POI initially because he had dealings with the FGM who called him about her washing machine 4 days before WT turned up missing, so he certainly would of been investigated by police because of that.
And consequently after he came to be on their radar, the historical child SA case came to their notice.
JM was found murdered, and the perpetrator of the crime convicted.
WT still after 3+ years still hasn't been found and LE as far as we know still don't know exactly who did whatever to WT?

 

[Karinna]

They were not related in any way. Read the court transcript here

https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/.../652.html?context=1;query=Hillsley;mask_path=

That was about my post and i have already clarified yesterday to the poster who asked me that question.

 

[papertrail]

Yes she is the first, not second or third.

Connected to one of his acquaintances? Do you mean the current trial? If so NO.

I don't mean current as in current trial. I mean anyone linked currently to spedding...male and female...and links no matter how frayed the thread is that holds this mob together.

 

[sleepinoz]

Yes and LE have stated after BS was investigated by them there were hundreds of other POI's in this case as well. BS was a POI initially because he had dealings with the FGM who called him about her washing machine 4 days before WT turned up missing, so he certainly would of been investigated by police because of that.
And consequently after he came to be on their radar, the historical child SA case came to their notice.
JM was found murdered, and the perpetrator of the crime convicted.
WT still after 3+ years still hasn't been found and LE as far as we know still don't know exactly who did whatever to WT?

Your post that I quoted was about LE clearing POI's, and that is what I responded to.

I'm well aware of the circumstances of this case and don't need a lecture, thank you.

 

[sleepinoz]

I don't mean current as in current trial. I mean anyone linked currently to spedding...male and female...and links no matter how frayed the thread is that holds this mob together.

I can't see what your trying to get at, but they have children together.

 

[papertrail]

That was about my post and i have already clarified yesterday to the poster who asked me that question.

I thought it better to post link directly to transcript not msm so contributors can read horrific detail for themselves. This is just not about a light touch here and there! To think b.s. was known to this hillsley prick.

 

[papertrail]

I can't see what your trying to get at, but they have children together.

This case is all about who knew whom when and how they first became acquainted.

 

[Karinna]

I thought it better to post link directly to transcript not msm so contributors can read horrific detail for themselves. This is just not about a light touch here and there! To think b.s. was known to this hillsley prick.

No problem and yes, i read the court document on Hillsley and it is horrific the children he attacked and raped. He is also a murderer. And yes, BS was married to Hillsley's sister.

 

[papertrail]

How do hillsley and spedding become acquainted.