Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #30

[they'll get you]

The smallest detail imo has been overlooked.check the colour of the 4wd

Iirc it was a white 4x4?
Fanging at speed.

Tell me what your thinking?




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[they'll get you]

For some reason, I think it was revealed very early on that it was a darker coloured 4WD. I don't know why I think that, but something is jinglejangling in my head about it.

This?
"There was also another vehicle described as a dark green [or] greyish coloured sedan. This vehicle drove past 48 Benaroon Drive as William was riding his bike on the driveway around 9am on the morning he disappeared," he said.

One of the cars was described as a dark grey, older model sedan, while the other was an old white station wagon. Inspector Jubelin said the cars were parked unusually close together, between driveways, with their windows down in the days leading up to the boy's disappearance.

"There was also another vehicle described as a dark green [or] greyish coloured sedan. This vehicle drove past 48 Benaroon Drive as William was riding his bike on the driveway around 9am on the morning he disappeared," he said.

"In addition, we have received reports of a four-wheel-drive vehicle driving out of Benaroon Drive around the time William vanished.

"This is of interest to us because we have also received information about a four-wheel-drive vehicle driving at speed in the Kendall area shortly after.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...parked-a-yearlong-search-20150906-gjggm9.html


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[SouthAussie]

Yes .. it was apparently a white 4WD vehicle. Finally found a link that states the colour ....



"This comes after police began investigations on finding the drivers of cars spotted on the street on the day of William's disappearance.

The cars were described as a speeding white four-wheel-drive .... "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nging-convicted-child-abuser-person-case.html

 

[SouthAussie]

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This certainly does not broaden our scope, but I noticed this vehicle (white 4WD) in a couple of pics the other day, and wondered where the photos were taken ... at his home? The reason I was looking at the other vehicle is because I was wondering what the 3rd vehicle was that the Speddings had impounded for testing.

We know they have a dark coloured 4WD that they were getting into when leaving the police station, and we know he has his work van.

Of course, there are many white 4WDs in NSW, I am sure.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...d/news-story/6a42aa0744d5c9857b3238c8a1bbf69b

https://myaccount.news.com.au/sites...ce5d2469a6766a1192508e93ee1&memtype=anonymous

 

[Warshawski]

How strong are these women now Warshawski knowing they could be crucified in the stand.
From injured little babies to grow and stand toe to toe with the shrivelled old who injured them.
Fly high you beautiful strong women. You’ve certainly earned your Crown and wear it proudly. Speak for all who have lived with burden.
Speak loud and be heard from all corners.
Pray for strength.


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AMEN to that TGY. I am so appreciative of your sentiments.

I too pray for these ladies, for their strength, commitment & delivery of purpose.

For far too long evil men have seen the 'defenceless' (children & women mostly) as nothing but vessels upon which to prey & appease their sick, sordid, self-absorbed & self-indulgent fetishes.

So I honour & commend here, & all those others who have said 'Enough!'..And then gathered the strength to stand up for their Rights / for what is Right, for their SELF, their Healthy & Wholesome Self... eventually Good will prevail. IMO

 

[Warshawski]

Yes, I enjoyed it, too. It is interesting to see how we all read the same thing, and come away with different opinions. Perhaps based on our own life experiences, or whatever.

Sometimes other people's insight alters my perspective. Sometimes it doesn't. But it is interesting to read, nonetheless.

Hey Froggie & SA - i so enjoy & appreciate the breadth of what you bring to this WS.
Most importantly is the fact that you express your opinions & hear the expressions of others with due consideration & respect.

Individuality of thought / reaction is something I mentioned a short time back, & I value the different perspectives.

i do think our own experiences will definitely colour our judgement, and for me, that's one of my challenges.

 

[they'll get you]

The 4x4 of Spedding’s is maroon.
Maybe Mags, with her bad knees preferred the maroon 4x4 over the work van. It was the car of choice after visiting the copshop.
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[Warshawski]

How do hillsley and spedding become acquainted.

Brothers-in-law ... from BS previous spouse.

 

[SouthAussie]

The 4x4 of Spedding’s is maroon.
Maybe Mags, with her bad knees preferred the maroon 4x4 over the work van. It was the car of choice after visiting the copshop.

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Yes, I remember that. My question is ... what is the third vehicle? And that is why I was looking at all the pics of Spedding's vehicles, and noticed the white 4WD in several of his pics.


BBM
"Mr Spedding’s home in Bonny Hills and office in Laurieton, south of Port Macquarie, were both thoroughly searched by a team of homicide detectives and forensic officers on Tuesday and Wednesday.

They seized three vehicles, including a work van owned by the whitegoods repair man, computers, documents and a mattress."

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...r/news-story/c04f5f292a4b4840598b96e52d9d32fd

 

[Warshawski]

And the tip off about a child's shirt causing a blockage in a pipe at his home, creating the need for a repair.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...l/news-story/97a47cc5fe384c2fbf91c2f87488c9fa

interesting how so many things 'collided' for BS..

I wonder did he call the plumbers to investigate the blocked drain at the very time of all this going on..?

how the hell did a child's shirt get in the pipe? (was it on purpose ??)

 

[SouthAussie]

interesting how so many things 'collided' for BS..

I wonder did he call the plumbers to investigate the blocked drain at the very time of all this going on..?

how the hell did a child's shirt get in the pipe? (was it on purpose ??)

I don't know, Warshawski. There are just so many things with this POI.

 

[SouthAussie]

One thing is for sure, the police must have a description of the vehicle that was seen entering the forest on the fire trail on Houston Mitchell Drive, Bonny Hills, where they searched. And they have not mentioned the description of the vehicle as one they are looking for, which indicates to me that they must know or have a very good idea of who that vehicle belongs to.

Possibly another piece of circumstantial evidence that we don't know about.

 

[they'll get you]

interesting how so many things 'collided' for BS..

I wonder did he call the plumbers to investigate the blocked drain at the very time of all this going on..?

how the hell did a child's shirt get in the pipe? (was it on purpose ??)

The pipe.
The shirt.
I imagined the shirt got into a drain pipe from inside the house or down the toilet and into the septic but then I thought could it be possible it was on the roof and made its way into the downpipe and then into the storm water drain.



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[Warshawski]

Regardless of whether Spedding is guilty or not? no one at this stage knows. And just because some people want to put him under the jail yesterday without an arrest or charges by the police in WT's case, reminds me of the old church inquisitions.
This is not just sleuthing, it is absolute hatred for someone that is a target of that hatred. And IMO it's just wrong. Until he is proven guilty in a court of law or not, maybe judgement should be reserved.

Hi Karinna, I think you are placing harsh judgement on the members here.

'Hatred' is not an emotion that I've felt has been caste upon BS or anyone else ( certainly there is 'hatred' for the despicable acts that been committed by some who have been discussed in the course of our sleuthing.)

For sure there is interest in BS & his activities, and that interest & subsequent enquiry will naturally come with various levels of sentimentality, dredged often from one's own often deep seated experiences & emotions. Personally, I try to be aware of that.

It's just my personal feeling that you tend to sway to the 'positive' side for BS and I'm keen to hear your reasons for that.

I for what it's worth, I agree that he, and everyone else, is entitled to a fair & honest opportunity, and we are blessed here with courts that mandate that everyone is 'innocent', unless 'proven' guilty.
BS is getting his opportunity now to prove his 'innocence' in relation to some previous activities, and once that is resolved the future will evolve..

All just my personal opinion 😳

 

[sosocurious]

Yes thanks i read the article and this is what it states
(quote)
Spedding was previously identified as one of the people of interest in the disappearance of NSW toddler William Tyrrell.

So it states "was previously" a POI. I still couldn't find anything else other than what i posted up earlier where it states police wouldn't confirm one way or the other? Have police stated anything about that since then, is the info. i was looking for?

12/02/2018

Mr Jones has also been linked with Paul Bickford and Bill Spedding, two other persons of interest in the case - as well as with William's biological family.


Bit late joining but it seems he just this month is still being considered a poi.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...illiam-tyrrell-case-breaks-silence/ar-BBJ0JnO

 

[sosocurious]

Interesting that more details about the 4WD weren't released, not even colour. As if they know whose vehicle it was.

Well the daily mail said .... :dunno:
The cars were described as a speeding white four-wheel-drive, and a dark grey older-style, medium sized sedan, and an old, white station wagon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-child-abuser-person-case.html#ixzz5828PJMTw

 

[SouthAussie]

Well the daily mail said .... :dunno:
The cars were described as a speeding white four-wheel-drive, and a dark grey older-style, medium sized sedan, and an old, white station wagon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-child-abuser-person-case.html#ixzz5828PJMTw

Were you ever able to work out what Spedding's third vehicle was, soso?

 

[sosocurious]

Were you ever able to work out what Spedding's third vehicle was, soso?

No SA.
I recall a white commodore being mentioned along the way, but can't find a link.

But it was also said PB was driving an old white commodore at the time William disappeared.

 

[SouthAussie]

No SA.
I recall a white commodore being mentioned along the way, but can't find a link.

But it was also said PB was driving an old white commodore at the time William disappeared.

I can't find anything at all about Spedding's 3rd vehicle, other than it was taken during the search, and later just two vehicles were returned to him. One of the returned vehicles being his work van.

 

[Warshawski]

I wonder was it a white 4 wheel drive?

The report of the 4 Wheel Drive is not new. However I'm personally not aware of publication of its identification.

Does your question point to the fact that it has been stated as being 'White' ?

Alternatively, has it been stated that 'someone' had a White 4 wheel drive ?

...please excuse me for my ignorance if I should know this. I sadly spend my time trying to catch up here as you know, but that doesn't stop my prayers for William.

Where is this little boy ?
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