Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) 12 Sept 2014 #79

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JMO - I know there has been much photos discussion here about the timing of the photos, but It seems that there might be some mystery in/about a number of the photos of William e.g. the caption below this one BBM:
View attachment 638665New copy photographs of missing NSW North Coast boy William Tyrrell supplied by the Police

I have always wondered why this iconic photo has been cropped so much?
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The famous Spider-Man suit photo of William. Picture: NSW Police
There are reasons why the original photos are withdrawn and New Copy Photographs were released. I think there is a non publication order on the originals. Those that have the original photo will hopefully realise that what has been cropped is key evidence that this photo was not taken on the day that William Tyrrell was reported missing. Mr Craddock was wrong and the Coroner and Police by withdrawing the original must know this.

There is something in that other photo in the blue and white shirt that also gives the game away. If that photo was taken 6 weeks before he was reported missing, then the 'Roar" photo was definitely not taken on the 12th September, 2014 at 9.37am.

Others that have convinced themselves of an open finding will be shocked when the charge of 'perverting the course of justice is laid by the DPP.' It's possible the reason the Coroner is not going to report is that she may have already handed it over to the DPP. She is required to do this by law.

There is other evidence clearly demonstrable in this photo that helps prove that the photo was not taken that day, but you will have to work that out for yourself.
 
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“When I took over the investigation, she had been eliminated as a person of interest by Inspector Rupp. In the four years I ran the investigation she was again eliminated.”
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Has Gary Jubelin published his evidence that, by process of elimination, led him to arrive at his conclusion that the FM was in no way involved in the vanishing of William?

JMO – Surely how he really did arrive at that conclusion has to be laid out and explained.
 
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“When I took over the investigation, she had been eliminated as a person of interest by Inspector Rupp. In the four years I ran the investigation she was again eliminated.”
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Has Gary Jubelin published his evidence that, by process of elimination, led him to arrive at his conclusion that the FM was in no way involved in the vanishing of William?

JMO – Surely how he really did arrive at that conclusion has to be laid out and explained.

Somewhere back in these threads is an interview with Hans Rupp. He explained his process of elimination.

Rupp, of course, followed the traditional police pattern of looking at those closest first, then working his way out. He retired after he initiated the investigation into, and searches of, Bill Spedding.

William had been missing for about 5 months when Rupp retired.

imo
 
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Somewhere back in these threads is an interview with Hans Rupp. He explained his process of elimination.

imo
Thankyou SA
I am focussing on Gary's process of elimination.
 
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Thankyou SA
I am focussing on Gary's process of elimination.

No worries. It is helpful to hear from more than one investigator, I think.
They all use the same pattern. Start with those closest, and work their way out.
Eg: Rupp was the one who took the family's devices and vehicles for forensic examination. When the case was brand new.

Not one of the lead investigators was called to testify at the inquest.
 
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No worries. It is helpful to hear from more than one investigator, I think.
They all use the same pattern. Start with those closest, and work their way out.

Not one of the lead investigators was called to testify at the inquest.
The coroner had seen their reports and they were so far off the mark, there was little point in airing what was a 'fairytale'. Opinion is not evidence and the coroner clearly stated that they were interested only in evidence.
 
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The coroner had seen their reports and they were so far off the mark, there was little point in airing what was a 'fairytale'. Opinion is not evidence and the coroner clearly stated that they were interested only in evidence.

The Coroner's attorney said that Laidlaw's submission was entirely opinion (just about). Which is why they weren't interested in his submission. Not factual.
 
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There are reasons why the original photos are withdrawn and New Copy Photographs were released. I think there is a non publication order on the originals. Those that have the original photo will hopefully realise that what has been cropped is key evidence that this photo was not taken on the day that William Tyrrell was reported missing. Mr Craddock was wrong and the Coroner and Police by withdrawing the original must know this.

There is something in that other photo in the blue and white shirt that also gives the game away. If that photo was taken 6 weeks before he was reported missing, then the 'Roar" photo was definitely not taken on the 12th September, 2014 at 9.37am.

Others that have convinced themselves of an open finding will be shocked when the charge of 'perverting the course of justice is laid by the DPP.' It's possible the reason the Coroner is not going to report is that she may have already handed it over to the DPP. She is required to do this by law.

There is other evidence clearly demonstrable in this photo that helps prove that the photo was not taken that day, but you will have to work that out for yourself.
It appears that you must be 'onto something'
 
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I think that "major" was an adjective inserted by the previous poster. Jubes has said (a lot) that he would like to see an inquiry, that he owns his mistakes, that all the investigators should own their mistakes, so the same kind of mistakes are not made again.

A lot of money has been spent on this investigation. By all of the lead investigators. With no result. The Big Dig (for example) must have cost a small fortune.

Once the inquest report is published, I think that we may see another lawsuit. So far, there have been two lawsuits that we know of.

Prosecuting Jubes was also a waste of taxpayer money. They could have easily used internal disciplinary measures instead.

imo
Tall Poppy syndrome. SA

Have a read about Operation Prospect, Operation Florida, Task Force Volta, "Strike Force Emblems" ( you won't find much it's all hidden from the public )

Good honest officers targeted. Over 100 police, including high ranking ones such as Nick Kaldas & Clive Small


The Greens have slammed the New South Wales Government's decision not to release the Strikeforce Emblems report into a controversial police phone tapping operation.

The report was written eight years ago after it emerged that an internal police unit had obtained warrants to secretly record more than 100 past and present police officers.


The NSW government will not release a report into a high-level internal police surveillance operation, saying the police integrity watchdog has found the investigation unsatisfactory.
Police Integrity Commission (PIC) Inspector David Levine warned that releasing the Strike Force Emblems report would be "dangerous" and damage the reputation of NSW police.
Strike Force Emblems was established to investigate the propriety of an internal police operation in 2000, which put 114 people, including police and lawyers, under surveillance.

Some of those police are now in the top ranks of the force, including deputy commissioner Nick Kaldas.


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Kinda ironic that these warrants were suspect at best, when there was a legal warrant for PS , but it had expired & NSWPF took their chance to very publicly prosecute Gary Jubelin IMO

Nick Kaldas's book Behind The Badge & Clive Small & tom Gillings book Betrayed are a good read about how the NSWPF treat their own.

Sadly Clive Small died a couple of months ago


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Submission
No 3
INQUIRY INTO THE CONDUCT AND PROGRESS OF THE
OMBUDSMAN’S INQUIRY “OPERATION PROSPECT”
Name: Mr Neil Mercer
Date received: 8/01/2015
Submission
No 3


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Now if we are talking wild conspiracy theories, than I have to wonder if GJ was set up by members of his team?? Revenge & grudges maybe??


Lots more at the links, interesting reading ...............
 
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I think that "major" was an adjective inserted by the previous poster. Jubes has said (a lot) that he would like to see an inquiry, that he owns his mistakes, that all the investigators should own their mistakes, so the same kind of mistakes are not made again.

A lot of money has been spent on this investigation. By all of the lead investigators. With no result. The Big Dig (for example) must have cost a small fortune.

Once the inquest report is published, I think that we may see another lawsuit. So far, there have been two lawsuits that we know of.

Prosecuting Jubes was also a waste of taxpayer money. They could have easily used internal disciplinary measures instead.

imo
From what I read in the earlier days, there were conflicts within the ranks. I believe Jubes was prosecuted to make an example out of him. He'd gone a bit rouge. MOO
 
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There are reasons why the original photos are withdrawn and New Copy Photographs were released. I think there is a non publication order on the originals. Those that have the original photo will hopefully realise that what has been cropped is key evidence that this photo was not taken on the day that William Tyrrell was reported missing. Mr Craddock was wrong and the Coroner and Police by withdrawing the original must know this.

There is something in that other photo in the blue and white shirt that also gives the game away. If that photo was taken 6 weeks before he was reported missing, then the 'Roar" photo was definitely not taken on the 12th September, 2014 at 9.37am.

Others that have convinced themselves of an open finding will be shocked when the charge of 'perverting the course of justice is laid by the DPP.' It's possible the reason the Coroner is not going to report is that she may have already handed it over to the DPP. She is required to do this by law.

There is other evidence clearly demonstrable in this photo that helps prove that the photo was not taken that day, but you will have to work that out for yourself.
BBM: Is this your opinion?? If not, do you have links for your assertions?

Thanks
 
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BBM: Is this your opinion?? If not, do you have links for your assertions?

Thanks
Dan Box certainly discusses suppression orders on suppression orders in his podcast. Is there likely to be a media link if there is a suppression order? I don’t think so. I am certainly not going to break that order on this site.

I certainly have looked for the original. It was replaced in early 2025. You may have better luck finding it. How about you post it if you find it. I used the word ‘think’ because it is the only explanation that I can see for this.

I have shared what has been cut out with could be. He maybe able to confirm to the site that it is significant without revealing exactly what it is.

Do you have the original. Have a close look. It is certainly revealing.
 

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