Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #77

[Awakening]

There’s a discussion about these witnesses here;

Post in thread 'Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #47'
Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #47

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes. If there’s no connection then why even mention it?

Perhaps there is no connection but Candace is trying to hint at something about William and where his remains might be?

Or it’s click bait?

The DM's headline .... Cops make grim discovery in Kendall, NSW - on the same road police say they 'know' William Tyrrell's body is buried

The headline from the only other publication running the story (as far as I can see) .... Unexplained Death in Kendall, NSW: A Community Awaits Answers

Pretty sure the DM's headline is click bait. imo

 

[Awakening]

Or are they trying to tell us that yet another witness in William’s Case has died???? JMO and pure speculation ..

Oh yes that could be it

 

[SLouTh]

The Daily Telegraph is reporting the same incident with no link to William’s Case ….


Paywalled for some

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/regional/midnorth-coast-police-launch-investigation-after-unresponsive-man-dies-soon-after-being-found-unresponsive-at-kendall/news-story/f55d83f20f143fb32d7ddfd46c92792f

 

[SouthAussie]

The Daily Telegraph is reporting the same incident with no link to William’s Case ….


Paywalled for some

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/regional/midnorth-coast-police-launch-investigation-after-unresponsive-man-dies-soon-after-being-found-unresponsive-at-kendall/news-story/f55d83f20f143fb32d7ddfd46c92792f

It is always good to look for other articles.
DM seems focused on click bait. And any link containing the name William Tyrrell is bound to be clicked on many times.
Because the DM is non-subscription, it needs to maintain clicks for its advertisers - who are its main stream of revenue.

imo

 

[FromGermany1]

The DM's headline .... Cops make grim discovery in Kendall, NSW - on the same road police say they 'know' William Tyrrell's body is buried

The headline from the only other publication running the story (as far as I can see) .... Unexplained Death in Kendall, NSW: A Community Awaits Answers

Pretty sure the DM's headline is click bait. imo

Tyrrell disappeared in September 2014, and police believe his remains may be buried along Batar Creek Road, coincidentally, in close proximity to where the 43-year-old man was found.

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IF connected, who of the players was circa 34 yo in 2014?

 

[SLouTh]

There’s a discussion about these witnesses here;

Post in thread 'Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #47'
Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #47

It is actually quite interesting to go back and read this page … and remember some of the small details that make up this complex case …

IMO

 

[Awakening]

It is actually quite interesting to go back and read this page … and remember some of the small details that make up this complex case …

IMO

It sure is. And also a number of you have followed the case from the beginning.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Nine years, no answers in Australia’s most high-profile disappearance: the search for justice for William Tyrrell

The missing child has not been far from the headlines since he disappeared from a small Australian town in 2014. Nearly a decade on, he has still not been found

www.theguardian.com

 

[SLouTh]

Nine years, no answers in Australia’s most high-profile disappearance: the search for justice for William Tyrrell

The missing child has not been far from the headlines since he disappeared from a small Australian town in 2014. Nearly a decade on, he has still not been found

www.theguardian.com

Thank you for linking this interesting article Toots….

This part is interesting, and thought provoking…

Snip

Jarryd Bartle, an associate lecturer at RMIT university, said switching to confession-oriented techniques, as occurred during the pursuit of Spedding, comes at the cost of searching for facts that could have helped police solve the disappearance.

Bartle, who is also a consultant at the Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative and a former lawyer, said given the high-profile nature of the case, police likely had a significant amount of information to wade through that had been provided by the public, but this too would likely have been put on the backburner once Spedding was the prime suspect.

“They develop tunnel vision, they specifically have in mind a certain scenario that has happened and … there was a narrow focus on building that particular case to the exclusion of looking at other options,” he said.

“There’s a real human element here that needs to be taken into account, [police] have their own cognitive bias, and can be led down roads that don’t go anywhere.”

Snip

Is Jared Bartle, suggesting that the use of listening devices and applying pressure comes at the cost of searching and wading thru the case file for evidence, regarding confession-oriented techniques ????


Also worth noting ……

About the Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative​

The Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative at RMIT is a joint venture between RMIT University and The Bridge of Hope Foundation. The Initiative follows the work of others in the innocence movement who aim to both investigate claims of wrongful conviction and campaign for reform of issues that lead to these injustices.

Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative

The initiative aims to examine cases where a person may have been wrongfully convicted, and assist in exonerating that person

www.rmit.edu.au

All MOO

EDIT forgot link

 

[JBowie]

Nine years, no answers in Australia’s most high-profile disappearance: the search for justice for William Tyrrell

The missing child has not been far from the headlines since he disappeared from a small Australian town in 2014. Nearly a decade on, he has still not been found

www.theguardian.com

Both the NSW police and NSW Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions declined to comment on the current status of the investigation. Prosecutors are reportedly expected to advise in January whether they believe there is enough evidence to charge anyone over William’s suspected death. (bbm)

IMO, the advice will be no there isn't.

The inquest into William’s disappearance will resume early next year.

Assuming, I guess, that the ODPP decides there is no case.

 

[SLouTh]

Prosecutors are reportedly expected to advise in January whether they believe there is enough evidence to charge anyone over William’s suspected death. (bbm)

IMO, the advice will be no there isn't.

4 Months ago the SMH was suggesting the same ….

<modsnip: Removed direct quote from a paywalled article / copyright violation>

Paywalled for some

The woman at the centre of the William Tyrrell mystery

William Tyrrell’s much-discussed, little-known foster mother is now well and truly in the spotlight over the disappearance of the little boy, who would have turned 12 this week.

www.smh.com.au

 

[JBowie]

“They develop tunnel vision, they specifically have in mind a certain scenario that has happened and … there was a narrow focus on building that particular case to the exclusion of looking at other options,” he said.

This is why stalled cases often need the intervention of fresh sets of eyes from other jurisdictions, and sometimes from other countries.

Seems, AFAIK, that has never been a consideration in the WT case.

 

[SLouTh]

This is why stalled cases often need the intervention of fresh sets of eyes from other jurisdictions, and sometimes from other countries.

Seems, AFAIK, that has never been a consideration in the WT case.

Perhaps it would be somewhat embarrassing to hand an investigation over to other agencies , when there was initially, no crime scene taped off…???

And as per CO’s Book, Missing William Tyrrell, (Chapter 7), a forensic search of FGM House did not occur until 3 days later….. (one could wonder if this also meant no forensic photographs were taken on Day 1 either??? )

I do recall that NSW Police sent William’s photo around the world to be added to missing children and nefarious crime databases …

IMO

 

[SLouTh]

Nine years, no answers in Australia’s most high-profile disappearance: the search for justice for William Tyrrell

The missing child has not been far from the headlines since he disappeared from a small Australian town in 2014. Nearly a decade on, he has still not been found

www.theguardian.com

I wonder what prompted the journalist to write this article and publish about William’s Case today, “out of the blue”, so to speak???

Is it a long overdue apology to Mr Spedding ??? (From The Guardian)

Or, are they suggesting, that possibly the Foster Parents have approached The Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative at RMIT, for advice??

Or, possibly they are suggesting that the Police have it wrong?? With the inclusion of these two paragraphs ????

They develop tunnel vision, they specifically have in mind a certain scenario that has happened and … there was a narrow focus on building that particular case to the exclusion of looking at other options,” he said.

“There’s a real human element here that needs to be taken into account, [police] have their own cognitive bias, and can be led down roads that don’t go anywhere.”


Honestly, I don’t know the answer… but it is thought provoking to me… it just seems a bit odd …. Especially in regards to timing …

This also seems a bit odd ….. to be mentioned again, in just a few days after the last article attempting to correlate the recent death in Kendall with William’s disappearance …

These included sightings of children in cars near Kendall about the time William went missing.


Any thoughts??

IMO

 

[JLZ]

I wonder what prompted the journalist to write this article and publish about William’s Case today, “out of the blue”, so to speak???

Is it a long overdue apology to Mr Spedding ??? (From The Guardian)

Or, are they suggesting, that possibly the Foster Parents have approached The Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative at RMIT, for advice??

Or, possibly they are suggesting that the Police have it wrong?? With the inclusion of these two paragraphs ????

They develop tunnel vision, they specifically have in mind a certain scenario that has happened and … there was a narrow focus on building that particular case to the exclusion of looking at other options,” he said.

“There’s a real human element here that needs to be taken into account, [police] have their own cognitive bias, and can be led down roads that don’t go anywhere.”


Honestly, I don’t know the answer… but it is thought provoking to me… it just seems a bit odd …. Especially in regards to timing …

Any thoughts??

IMO

The author and Mr Bartle appear to have a few things in common. Perhaps they met, got into an interesting conversation, and the journalist put it to use.

 

[Couldbe]

4 Months ago the SMH was suggesting the same ….

<modsnip: Removed direct quote from a paywalled article / copyright violation>


Paywalled for some

The woman at the centre of the William Tyrrell mystery

William Tyrrell’s much-discussed, little-known foster mother is now well and truly in the spotlight over the disappearance of the little boy, who would have turned 12 this week.

www.smh.com.au

<modsnip: Quoted post was modsnipped to remove direct quote from a paywalled article / copyright violation>

With the their Brief of Evidence being handed to the DPP with the recommendation that the FM be charged with Perverting the course of justice and Interfering with a corpse, I wonder how Strike Force Rosann are handling any impact the publicity has had on their investigation?

Maybe this Media article will have an undesired impact:
(Nine years, no answers in Australia’s most high profile disappearance: the search for justice for William Tyrrell) where they reported:-

"Jarryd Bartle, an associate lecturer at RMIT university, said switching to confession-oriented techniques, as occurred during the pursuit of Spedding, comes at the cost of searching for facts that could have helped police solve the disappearance."

and saying further:
"They develop tunnel vision, they specifically have in mind a certain scenario that has happened and … there was a narrow focus on building that particular case to the exclusion of looking at other options,” he said.

“There’s a real human element here that needs to be taken into account, [police] have their own cognitive bias, and can be led down roads that don’t go anywhere.”

 

[SLouTh]

I wonder how Strike Force Rosann are handling any impact the publicity has had on their investigation?

SFR are certainly not giving any media interviews at the moment ….


Craddock is making statements to distance the investigation from the inquest … and planning to re open it ..

Counsel Assisting the Coroner, Gerard Craddock, told the court the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) had recently received "an issue for advice" from NSW Police, which "has nothing to do with the inquest".

Prosecutors to advise on evidence for charges over William Tyrrell's suspected death within months

An inquest into the disappearance of missing toddler William Tyrrell will continue early next year after a three-year adjournment with prosecutors expected to decide whether to charge his foster mother.

www.abc.net.au

Are the public losing confidence in SFR?? And in their tactics ?? Possibly the media are too?? Evidenced by the media article today, pushing social justice issues regarding William’s Case


Are the public genuinely shocked to find that NSWCC is above the law, and can offer “to handle it in a way that doesn’t relate to you”, with no repercussions , and no justice served??

Ms Callan then told her: 'They can handle it in a way that does not connect you'.

William Tyrrell: Inside foster mother's secret grilling

The state's top secret crime-fighting agency has grilled William Tyrrell's foster mother accusing her of hiding the toddler's body after the boy fell from the verandah, a Sydney court has heard.

www.dailymail.co.uk

ALL MOO

 

[katydid23]

here is a very good article I found in the old threads:

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/the-day-william-tyrrell-vanished/news-story/c3b76e8d4fc18401ebc17df61f45a62d

 

[nightrider17]

Just before 9am, his foster grandmother had opened the sliding doors on her veranda to look at a kookaburra and noticed two cars parked in the street.

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/the-day-william-tyrrell-vanished/news-story/c3b76e8d4fc18401ebc17df61f45a62d

From that story - they said it was the Foster Grandmother who had noticed the 2 cars????? IMO

Also that rendition - doesn't really allow time for a person to be driving away in the Foster Grandmothers car to look down Batar Creek Road - it paints the picture it was just a matter of minutes when they noticed him missing.????? JMO

But.....

Then aged 70, Mr Savage had seen the little boy named William and his sister, who came to stay with their grandmother directly across the road, only occasionally.​

​

“Very few people around here knew him and his sister, not many of us, just two little kids visiting,” Mr Savage told news.com.au.​

That's interesting that they rarely visited. Even when the Foster Grandfather was alive???? JMO