Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard, Kendall (NSW), Sept 2014 #76

[suspicious]

It is not an inflammatory comment. It is fact. There has been publicly (MSM) visible parts of the lynch mob, prior to any of the "new" developments. They are still out there. imo


William Tyrrell vigilante is jailed for his 'crusade' against the missing boy's foster parents - as a magistrate blasts him for acting like the 'avenging angel of justice' (2019)

Mother-of-three accused of 'using payphones to call William Tyrrell's foster dad 14 times in eight hours' flees town after falsely claiming the man was involved in 'kidnapping the missing toddler' (2020)

After reading the Morcombe's book, they were also hassled quite a lot. This is also a negative to social media, so much more information out there unfortunately.

SA, how would you feel if it is proven that the FM is responsible?

 

[SouthAussie]

After reading the Morcombe's book, they were also hassled quite a lot. This is also a negative to social media, so much more information out there unfortunately.

SA, how would you feel if it is proven that the FM is responsible?

Suspicious, how would you feel if FM is proven to be not responsible?
I don't think either of us is personally invested in the case?

Any good result would be justice for William. And if he got himself lost, it still is a sad tragedy.
For me, it is another case that I am following with interest, among the approx 20 cases I have bookmarked and am following here.

But I don't see how they are going to prove anything in this case, when it seems it can't even be proven that William is alive or deceased. No hard evidence of a crime, according to all I have read. No strong circumstantial evidence of a crime, as far as I can see.
I don't know if we will ever know what happened.

But whether it be the Morcombes, CS' parents, William's parents, the McCanns ..... I think troll-like persecution based on random theory by people who wouldn't have a clue what actually happened (because none of us do) is not healthy.

imo

 

[Warshawski]

It is not an inflammatory comment. It is fact. There has been publicly (MSM) visible parts of the lynch mob, prior to any of the "new" developments. They are still out there. imo


William Tyrrell vigilante is jailed for his 'crusade' against the missing boy's foster parents - as a magistrate blasts him for acting like the 'avenging angel of justice' (2019)

Mother-of-three accused of 'using payphones to call William Tyrrell's foster dad 14 times in eight hours' flees town after falsely claiming the man was involved in 'kidnapping the missing toddler' (2020)

The actions you‘ve mentioned are not condoned by me & I’d suggest they’re not condoned by the mainstream.
Unfortunately we have people amongst us who operate outside of our societal values and these incidences have been dealt with by our justice system accordingly.

However (IMO) 2 people do not a MOB make, particularly in isolated incidents.

Dictionaries describe a MOB as: a large and disorderly crowd of people;
especially one bent on riotous or destructive action.

I think we’ll have to ‘agree to disagree’ SA, because I do find those comments to be potentially inflammatory, hence why I hoped they didn’t suggest there was a ‘Lynch Mob’ out there.

IMO, those comments have the potential to inflame people's emotions, feelings and reactions, such as to cause some people great concern for the wellbeing of those at the mercy of this ’suggested lynch mob’; they have the potential to incite anger over ’perceived‘ actions; they have the potential to rally an oppositional ‘Mob’ in support of those in danger…. and so we have a Mob War !!

Those who publish their opinions /comments need to be aware of their responsibilities in as far as how those opinions /comments are received & perceived by their consumers, and of the power of their words. I wonder were these podsters .

All just my opinion.

 

[Awakening]

But whether it be the Morcombes, CS' parents, William's parents, the McCanns ..... I think troll-like persecution based on random theory by people who wouldn't have a clue what actually happened (because none of us do) is not healthy.

imo

Imagine a standing ovation gif here.

 

[sleepinoz]

The actions you‘ve mentioned are not condoned by me & I’d suggest they’re not condoned by the mainstream.
Unfortunately we have people amongst us who operate outside of our societal values and these incidences have been dealt with by our justice system accordingly.

However (IMO) 2 people do not a MOB make, particularly in isolated incidents.

Dictionaries describe a MOB as: a large and disorderly crowd of people;
especially one bent on riotous or destructive action.

I think we’ll have to ‘agree to disagree’ SA, because I do find those comments to be potentially inflammatory, hence why I hoped they didn’t suggest there was a ‘Lynch Mob’ out there.

IMO, those comments have the potential to inflame people's emotions, feelings and reactions, such as to cause some people great concern for the wellbeing of those at the mercy of this ’suggested lynch mob’; they have the potential to incite anger over ’perceived‘ actions; they have the potential to rally an oppositional ‘Mob’ in support of those in danger…. and so we have a Mob War !!

Those who publish their opinions /comments need to be aware of their responsibilities in as far as how those opinions /comments are received & perceived by their consumers, and of the power of their words. I wonder were these podsters .

All just my opinion.

BBM - It's not just 2.

Family targeted by trolls​

William's foster family has also been stalked, harassed and bullied as they have had to endure sickening evidence.

In one session, a young girl gave evidence that a convicted paedophile had told her he killed William.

"Some of the people behind these deeply personal attacks have sat in the gallery of this very courtroom," the foster mother said.

More at:

The emotional gift that left William Tyrrell's inquest in tears

It was a poignant gift at the conclusion of an 18-month inquest into the disappearance of William Tyrrell that triggered tears from police, a former homicide detective, lawyers, reporters and those who loved the missing boy.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Couldbe]

The actions you‘ve mentioned are not condoned by me & I’d suggest they’re not condoned by the mainstream.
Unfortunately we have people amongst us who operate outside of our societal values and these incidences have been dealt with by our justice system accordingly.

However (IMO) 2 people do not a MOB make, particularly in isolated incidents.

Dictionaries describe a MOB as: a large and disorderly crowd of people;
especially one bent on riotous or destructive action.

I think we’ll have to ‘agree to disagree’ SA, because I do find those comments to be potentially inflammatory, hence why I hoped they didn’t suggest there was a ‘Lynch Mob’ out there.

IMO, those comments have the potential to inflame people's emotions, feelings and reactions, such as to cause some people great concern for the wellbeing of those at the mercy of this ’suggested lynch mob’; they have the potential to incite anger over ’perceived‘ actions; they have the potential to rally an oppositional ‘Mob’ in support of those in danger…. and so we have a Mob War !!

Those who publish their opinions /comments need to be aware of their responsibilities in as far as how those opinions /comments are received & perceived by their consumers, and of the power of their words. I wonder were these podsters .

All just my opinion.

Warshawski, I wonder if the fact that the Foster family were hiding their faces (Maybe in order not to be identified) could have contributed to some people forming the view that they were hiding other details about William's disappearance .... that they were involved themselves in his disappearance.

 

[Detective Willy]

Today is the last day of National Missing Persons week.

It's interesting that William's summary has not been updated for at least the last few years. It says:

"Detectives from the NSW Police Force’s Homicide Squad are leading the investigation into William’s disappearance and they believe he may have been kidnapped."

William Tyrrell | National Missing Persons

www.missingpersons.gov.au

 

[SouthAussie]

Today is the last day of National Missing Persons week.

It's interesting that William's summary has not been updated for at least the last few years. It says:

"Detectives from the NSW Police Force’s Homicide Squad are leading the investigation into William’s disappearance and they believe he may have been kidnapped."

William Tyrrell | National Missing Persons

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Probably a good thing. We don't want people to stop keeping an eye open for William, from reporting if they know of a boy who shouldn't be with whoever he is with (if William is still alive somewhere).

 

[SLouTh]

Do you think it’s possible that Police have some “evidence” that William is actually deceased???

In November 2021, Detective Chief Superintendent Darren Bennett, in a national presser said,
it’s “highly likely that if we found something it would be a body” when announcing the new three-week search.

“We are looking for the remains of William Tyrrell, there’s no doubt about that,” he said.



At the same time, it was reported that the Police had “new evidence”

Fresh evidence that has revived the investigation and triggered a search this week has also brought renewed hope for closure. Exactly what that new evidence is has not been revealed by police.


Then in June 2023, it was reported that Police had submitted a brief to the ODPP to recommend the FM to be charged with offences including interfering with a corpse….

Almost a year on, police have quietly been building evidence in support of allegations that William's foster mother covered up his accidental death and disposed of his body.
The potential charges include perverting the course of justice and interfering with a corpse, the most serious carrying a maximum sentence of 14 years behind bars.


For that particular charge, interfering with a corpse, should we consider that Police could have some sort of evidence that William is infact deceased, despite not having found a body….???

It just seems to me, that the recommended charge of “interfering with a corpse” would have to be based on more than just a random accident theory??? That Police would need to have some specific evidence to indicate William is deceased …..in order to recommend that particular charge.

All IMO …. And just wondering how Police came up with those recommended charges, in particular….. hope that makes sense.


References:

William Tyrrell: how new evidence revived the case and triggered a fresh search effort

There is renewed hope for closure in one of Australia’s most notorious missing persons cases – and the country is transfixed

www.theguardian.com

Detectives recommend charges against William Tyrrell's foster mother over 2014 disappearance

www.9news.com.au

 

[SLouTh]

Mr Donoghue was interviewed three times by police, but never called on to give evidence before NSW State Coroner Harriet Grahame.

William Tyrrell: Police find new item of interest in muddy creek bed

Investigators searching bushland near the Kendall home the three-year-old vanished from in September 2014, began digging through a new section of pumped-out creek on Monday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Perhaps he will be called if the inquest re-opens? Along with other neighbours who weren’t called originally, and asked for recollections of the whole morning, that particular day … not just from approx 10am onwards…

JMO

 

[SLouTh]

I believe that a lot is happening in the background in this case and we may not hear anything until 12th September.

BBM

I think the media will mark William’s anniversary with something, however,
I am not so optimistic as to think the ODPP would consider releasing any information on the anniversary….. I think they will march to their own drum, when, and if, they see fit…. But JMO …

We may, however, hear the inquest is re-opening or delivering findings at some future date?

i do hope Harriet has been checking her diary, for an opening, as it has been dragging on for such a long time since the inquest first opened….. IMO

 

[Megnut]

Do you think it’s possible that Police have some “evidence” that William is actually deceased???

In November 2021, Detective Chief Superintendent Darren Bennett, in a national presser said,
it’s “highly likely that if we found something it would be a body” when announcing the new three-week search.

“We are looking for the remains of William Tyrrell, there’s no doubt about that,” he said.



At the same time, it was reported that the Police had “new evidence”

Fresh evidence that has revived the investigation and triggered a search this week has also brought renewed hope for closure. Exactly what that new evidence is has not been revealed by police.


Then in June 2023, it was reported that Police had submitted a brief to the ODPP to recommend the FM to be charged with offences including interfering with a corpse….

Almost a year on, police have quietly been building evidence in support of allegations that William's foster mother covered up his accidental death and disposed of his body.
The potential charges include perverting the course of justice and interfering with a corpse, the most serious carrying a maximum sentence of 14 years behind bars.


For that particular charge, interfering with a corpse, should we consider that Police could have some sort of evidence that William is infact deceased, despite not having found a body….???

It just seems to me, that the recommended charge of “interfering with a corpse” would have to be based on more than just a random accident theory??? That Police would need to have some specific evidence to indicate William is deceased …..in order to recommend that particular charge.

All IMO …. And just wondering how Police came up with those recommended charges, in particular….. hope that makes sense.


References:

William Tyrrell: how new evidence revived the case and triggered a fresh search effort

There is renewed hope for closure in one of Australia’s most notorious missing persons cases – and the country is transfixed

www.theguardian.com

Detectives recommend charges against William Tyrrell's foster mother over 2014 disappearance

www.9news.com.au

The recommended charge suggests moving the body. Because it isn't where it was. Whether that's an inference because it's not where a fall may have happened or they've located where his body had been moved to and it's not still there isn't clear.

I do wonder what their strongest evidence is.

JMO

 

[SLouTh]

I do wonder what their strongest evidence is.

Yes … so do I …. I am most curious on how they have come to their decision.
I am not sure we will ever get to hear it though…

IMO

 

[Detective Willy]

Probably a good thing. We don't want people to stop keeping an eye open for William, from reporting if they know of a boy who shouldn't be with whoever he is with (if William is still alive somewhere).

Really, you think we should be keeping an eye open for William?

 

[Couldbe]

Do you think it’s possible that Police have some “evidence” that William is actually deceased???

In November 2021, Detective Chief Superintendent Darren Bennett, in a national presser said,
it’s “highly likely that if we found something it would be a body” when announcing the new three-week search.

“We are looking for the remains of William Tyrrell, there’s no doubt about that,” he said.



At the same time, it was reported that the Police had “new evidence”

Fresh evidence that has revived the investigation and triggered a search this week has also brought renewed hope for closure. Exactly what that new evidence is has not been revealed by police.


Then in June 2023, it was reported that Police had submitted a brief to the ODPP to recommend the FM to be charged with offences including interfering with a corpse….

Almost a year on, police have quietly been building evidence in support of allegations that William's foster mother covered up his accidental death and disposed of his body.
The potential charges include perverting the course of justice and interfering with a corpse, the most serious carrying a maximum sentence of 14 years behind bars.


For that particular charge, interfering with a corpse, should we consider that Police could have some sort of evidence that William is infact deceased, despite not having found a body….???

It just seems to me, that the recommended charge of “interfering with a corpse” would have to be based on more than just a random accident theory??? That Police would need to have some specific evidence to indicate William is deceased …..in order to recommend that particular charge.

All IMO …. And just wondering how Police came up with those recommended charges, in particular….. hope that makes sense.


References:

William Tyrrell: how new evidence revived the case and triggered a fresh search effort

There is renewed hope for closure in one of Australia’s most notorious missing persons cases – and the country is transfixed

www.theguardian.com

Detectives recommend charges against William Tyrrell's foster mother over 2014 disappearance

www.9news.com.au

It could be the case that Rosann have been provided with information leading them to believe that something happened to cause William’s death at a particular location … most likely at 48 Benaroon Drive, Kendall.

Because William was in her care as his Foster Mother, and she is the only person who has provided some details of searching for him when he was initially found to be missing …. Rosann, in potentially charging her with perverting the course of justice, seem to be saying that she has not truthfully stated what happened.

In their Brief of Evidence submitted to the DPP, Detectives have sought advice on whether they have provided sufficient evidence that the FM should go before the Court. MOO

 

[JBowie]

Do you think it’s possible that Police have some “evidence” that William is actually deceased???

Given how 'leaky' this case has been, IMO we would have heard about that.

 

[Couldbe]

Given how 'leaky' this case has been, IMO we would have heard about that.

No doubt that is something to consider, and we haven't.
Given that what has been leaked was very brief ..... only relating to what the potential charges are ..... the opportunity was a hand then, but that leak did not supply any information about any evidence contained in the Brief ... which prompted the FM/her Lawyer to ask for more details.

Police Recommend Criminal Charges Against William Tyrell's Foster Mother

New South Wales police have handed the case over to the DPP, recommending criminal charges including perverting the course of justice.

www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au

MOO

Edited to add that this is MOO>

 

[SouthAussie]

Really, you think we should be keeping an eye open for William?

Well, maybe not you. But for sure I think the sex crimes squads around the world should be keeping an eye out for William.
And not think "that disappearance is solved', when it isn't.

These squads search hard to identify victims who have been portrayed on Dark Web sites.

Eg: this recent case
Tiny traces from videos and images drew detectives to a childcare worker accused of being Australia’s worst serial paedophile

 

[Couldbe]

Well, maybe not you. But for sure I think the sex crimes squads around the world should be keeping an eye out for William.
And not think "that disappearance is solved', when it isn't.

These squads search hard to identify victims who have been portrayed on Dark Web sites.

Eg: this recent case
Tiny traces from videos and images drew detectives to a childcare worker accused of being Australia’s worst serial paedophile

It is most likely the opinion of many ...... that if William or his images were on the “Dark Web” - taskforce Argos would have found them by now.
MOO

 

[Detective Willy]

It is most likely the opinion of many ...... that if William or his images were on the “Dark Web” - taskforce Argos would have found them by now.
MOO

I agree 100% Couldbe.

Facial Recognition Technology has advanced so quickly and IMO many peoples heads would spin if the knew how much more prevalent "AI" is now.

Police have stated repeatedly that they do not think William is alive so IMO it's a highly unlikely scenario that he is a slave and is being recorded on the Dark Web from what has been said by authorities.