AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #2

[MissDemeanor]

ive been pretty adamant about that after the accident EVEN, we dont know if she got home, really. aside from a clothing change that we don't know she did at that time. NO ONE SAW HER BACK HOME AFTER ACCIDENT. there is no record of anyone indicating she got home after accident. none

WHY do we KNOW the clothing change was after accident? why couldnt it of been PRIOR, when she left bf on mill, roomie got her, and she, WE KNOW, WE KNOW AT THAT POINT she DID get back home and was visually seen by roommate? maybe thats when she changed clothing and packed the nxt day bag, because wouldnt it make sense that she takes that bag to sleep at her bfs house?

so, she then proceeds to go to bfs house, gets in wreck. and NEVER GOES BACK TO APT. and then from wreck to ampm, its a mystery.

im on board with that thought, and wondering if that makes sense, either

She did pack the overnight bag before the accident. The roommates saw her leave with that and she was dressed in the little sheer polka dot blouse with the black bra.

The reason they know she came back and changed clothes following the wreck and not before is that they found her clothes there, along with the bag, along with her wallet, along with her keys.

This has been confirmed by LE.

I'm good with that. I think somehow, someway, she made it back to the apartment and changed clothes after the wreck. I don't have a clue as to where she called the cab from or what her route was coming from the wreck or how long it took her to get from point A to point B.

But I do believe we are getting somewhere.

Keep posting your thoughts.

Please.

 

[goblinsolo]

she left the bag she packed for her bfs house, that she initially needed for her bfs house?

why would she do this

 

[WideOpen]

ive been pretty adamant about that after the accident EVEN, we dont know if she got home, really. aside from a clothing change that we don't know she did at that time. NO ONE SAW HER BACK HOME AFTER ACCIDENT. there is no record of anyone indicating she got home after accident. none

WHY do we KNOW the clothing change was after accident? why couldnt it of been PRIOR, when she left bf on mill, roomie got her, and she, WE KNOW, WE KNOW AT THAT POINT she DID get back home and was visually seen by roommate? maybe thats when she changed clothing and packed the nxt day bag, because wouldnt it make sense that she takes that bag to sleep at her bfs house?

so, she then proceeds to go to bfs house, gets in wreck. and NEVER GOES BACK TO APT. and then from wreck to ampm, its a mystery.

im on board with that thought, and wondering if that makes sense, either

I suppose it wouldnt be the first time LE "fudged" the truth to make suspects comfortable with the investigation not focusing on them and the apartment.

You are all very clearly stating your thoughts. They are all flowing together nicely.

jmo

 

[WideOpen]

i dont wanna repost what i just said 4 comments ago, but plz someone tell me im either crazy, or that it makes a bit of sense.

because, I DONT THINK she went back to her apt after crash. i think she was calling cab from either another car or on a terribly dangerous walk, from hardy/brown to ampm. was she being chased? why did she call 11 times to her bf, and txt? why did she pick ampm if she was just chilln at home changing, etc? I THINK IF she actually got home after accident, she woulda called cab to her apt! boom

thats my new theory for 750pm, july 10th!

I like your theory. It makes sense.
I think she was calling the BF to come and get her and when she realized he wasnt going to answer she called the cab.
jmo

 

[MissDemeanor]

if i might further elaborate on a theory, SHE was in another car, heading to ampm from somewhere else, and she didnt want that person droppn her at HOME, or HER BFS HOUSE?

the ride, she txtd her bf ON MY WAY because she thought she was gonna git out of this ride and get to a neutral place where driver couldnt identify her apt or bfs house at a later time?

this is someone who picked her up at her apt earlier, after she changed clothing?

does this make any sense?

OR, has this person been with her, since the accident? did she go back to her apt with this person, so they could get their car? and she took ride with them?

this is too many ridiculous things, im throwin' out there. im gonna stop for now.

I posted a theory somewhat similar to that earlier today as my thoughts were spinning.

It could be possible someone followed her when they saw her car in such trouble and really did want to help. The good samaritan. We kinda discussed that a bit today.

But if it was really a good samaritan, and it wasn't anyone who would harm her, why haven't they come forward and said they gave her a lift?

Fear of being suspected? Never saw the missing fliers? Just passing through? Just visiting?

There could have been more than one person who saw her that night who may not even be aware she's missing.

 

[cluciano63]

Unfortunately, almost nothing is impossible, as nothing has been ruled out. Accident, suicide, runaway or abduction...all still possible, some more likely than others, IMO.

 

[MissDemeanor]

she left the bag she packed for her bfs house, that she initially needed for her bfs house?

why would she do this

That is the 60 MILLION DOLLAR Question!!!!

Why did she leave EVERYTHING (except her cell phone) behind?

 

[goblinsolo]

She did pack the overnight bag before the accident. The roommates saw her leave with that and she was dressed in the little sheer polka dot blouse with the black bra.

The reason they know she came back and changed clothes following the wreck and not before is that they found her clothes there, along with the bag, along with her wallet, along with her keys.

This has been confirmed by LE.

I'm good with that. I think somehow, someway, she made it back to the apartment and changed clothes after the wreck. I don't have a clue as to where she called the cab from or what her route was coming from the wreck or how long it took her to get from point A to point B.

But I do believe we are getting somewhere.

Keep posting your thoughts.

Please.

i wanna see/hear the roommates' comments saying I SAW HER LEAVE W A BAG, I SAW HER LEAVE IN A BLACK POLKA DOT DRESS.

this roommate, who is soooooooooooo accurate as to some descrip as to her leaving, who is so on the spot to pick her up pretty much clockwork to the bf calling her to get her on mill,

YET AFTER ACCIDENT AND TO THE APT TO CHANGE CLOTHING AND DROP BELONGINGS AND TO AMPM FOR CAB

the roommate, didnt notice a thing.

i had difficulties from get go, with HOW THE ROOMY seemed to know so many details of this, and i still don't know how the roommate was able to identity that a salinas was in an accident in the NEWS INTERVIEWS on that sunday, yet she didn't see her after that accident? she said the streets that salinas left her car on, in that FIRST news interview, even

my mind is blown, again. by this lack of confirmation by roommate, or anyone else, at that time

 

[cluciano63]

Didn't want to walk and carry her bag?
Figured the BF might not want to see her turning up with an overnight bag, after he had sent her home once already?

 

[MissDemeanor]

isnt this all rather a strange angle to even worry about, does if it even matter what her path was after accident and her diversions in that path IF EVIDENCE SHOWS she went to house after the accident and changed clothing, etc?

what does any of this lead us to? she obviously got back home after wreck, and from that hardy/brown area is her final movements before her dissapearance?

is that not 100% the case? or, where am i wrong in that?

LOL Goblin. It was important to MOI!

 

[goblinsolo]

LOL Goblin. It was important to MOI!

ALREADY CONTRADICTED MY PRIOR POST w my new(er) theory!!!

and if i keep going on my landslide of confusion, its a snowball of nonsense.
the truth is out there, thou

 

[MissDemeanor]

Didn't want to walk and carry her bag?
Figured the BF might not want to see her turning up with an overnight bag, after he had sent her home once already?

Well, yeah, makes sense but then we still have the wallet and the keys.

 

[MissDemeanor]

ALREADY CONTRADICTED MY PRIOR POST w my new(er) theory!!!

and if i keep going on my landslide of confusion, its a snowball of nonsense.
the truth is out there, thou

My mind is muddled with misinformation, no information and blind theories!

:scared::fence::banghead:

 

[cluciano63]

Wonder if her apartment door locks when you close it? Or does it require a key? If no key is needed, she may have just forgotten, and taken some cash from her wallet. We already talked about why she might not want to carry ID.

 

[MissDemeanor]

i wanna see/hear the roommates' comments saying I SAW HER LEAVE W A BAG, I SAW HER LEAVE IN A BLACK POLKA DOT DRESS.

this roommate, who is soooooooooooo accurate as to some descrip as to her leaving, who is so on the spot to pick her up pretty much clockwork to the bf calling her to get her on mill,

YET AFTER ACCIDENT AND TO THE APT TO CHANGE CLOTHING AND DROP BELONGINGS AND TO AMPM FOR CAB

the roommate, didnt notice a thing.

i had difficulties from get go, with HOW THE ROOMY seemed to know so many details of this, and i still don't know how the roommate was able to identity that a salinas was in an accident in the NEWS INTERVIEWS on that sunday, yet she didn't see her after that accident? she said the streets that salinas left her car on, in that FIRST news interview, even

my mind is blown, again. by this lack of confirmation by roommate, or anyone else, at that time

Well....they have said that the boyfriend is not a suspect or POI and they have said the cab driver is not a suspect or a POI.

Have they said anything like that about anyone else?

 

[MissDemeanor]

Wonder if her apartment door locks when you close it? Or does it require a key? If no key is needed, she may have just forgotten, and taken some cash from her wallet. We already talked about why she might not want to carry ID.

I wondered the same thing, Cluciano! Did she accidentally even maybe lock herself out and didn't want or couldn't wake the roomies?

 

[goblinsolo]

My mind is muddled with misinformation, no information and blind theories!

:scared::fence::banghead:

w officer pooley, correct?

ask him, if u speak with him again, IF they actually have a salinas phone record.

the 11 calls to bf can be confirmed via bf phone. and the txt.

the communication for roomy to get salinas on mill, was via bf phone.

calls to cab? verified by cabbie company!

call to 911 obviously was from observer.

i wanna KNOW, salinas phone records that night, AND i am curious as to her ROOOMATES phone records as well. why the heck not!
is that fair to suppose?

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

she left the bag she packed for her bfs house, that she initially needed for her bfs house?

why would she do this

Perhaps because now it was already daylight, it was already the next day: no need for an overnight bag any longer.

Do we know where she was suppose to be in a few hours that morning? Did she have a job, any appointments, any commitments. (I believe it was Father's Day---or perhaps the next day?)

 

[MissDemeanor]

w officer pooley, correct?

ask him, if u speak with him again, IF they actually have a salinas phone record.

the 11 calls to bf can be confirmed via bf phone. and the txt.

the communication for roomy to get salinas on mill, was via bf phone.

calls to cab? verified by cabbie company!

call to 911 obviously was from observer.

i wanna KNOW, salinas phone records that night, AND i am curious as to her ROOOMATES phone records as well. why the heck not!
is that fair to suppose?

I will be speaking with him again soon. He invited me to call him back and I'm giving him a few days. Has anyone checked to see if he updated the temp.gov website yet?

I will be asking those questions and more and hopefully he will offer me more info that hasn't previously been reported.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Perhaps because now it was already daylight, it was already the next day: no need for an overnight bag any longer.

Do we know where she was suppose to be in a few hours that morning? Did she have a job, any appointments, any commitments. (I believe it was Father's Day---or perhaps the next day?)

Ohhhhhh very very good sleuthing! YES! She had already changed into the change of clothes she had packed in the bag!

YAY! Thank you!

See...this is why us going over and over and over the same stuff really does help.

You came up with something NEW!