AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #4

[Luna20]

I certainly don't condone it.

Absolutely he should be called before the judge. Not for speaking to reporters but for what he may have done before being released from jury duty.

I've listened to some judges drill those points home every time the jury is excused to the jury room, even if for only a few minute recess. Other judges, super casual. I myself can't imagine a juror NOT already knowing not to do discuss or do research, but we live in a big country with adults from entering wall of life and IQ point. What one person (say, a judge) says and another person (say, a juror) hears can be very different things. What one says and another decides to do, well, in some ways, it's remarkable that the jury system endures, for all the ways individuals decide how or whether to apply/abide by the rules.

JMO

Agree. This guy sounds like he was enjoying the spotlight. Now the spotlight is on his ignorance and his wannabe arrogance. jmo

Would it be fair to monetarily penalize a juror for not abiding with the established jury laws?

 

[MTW2011]

I was sifting thru some of the court records and noticed several records where the Judge indicated that Alex Cox testified.....(these are from records the Judge writes)

Alex even pointed out the defendant in court.
JMOO but seems kinda sloppy to me. When I started seeing Alex Cox, the witness, on the 3rd document I stopped thinking it was just a simple typo. Ooof.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

 

[Cindizzi]

Lori Vallow Daybell reacts to guilty verdict in exclusive interview​

By Briana Whitney and David Baker
Published: Apr. 24, 2025 at 6:03 PM MDTUpdated: 2 hours ago
PHOENIX (AZFamily) — So-called “Doomsday Mom” Lori Vallow Daybell said in an exclusive interview she wasn’t expecting to be found guilty of conspiring to murder her fourth husband, Charles Vallow. She sat down with True Crime Arizona correspondent Briana Whitney on Thursday.

Vallow Daybell said she was stunned by Tuesday’s verdict. “I mean, obviously I knew that was a possibility, yeah, so, it was a bit of a surprise actually,” she said.

[…]

Lori Vallow Daybell reacts to guilty verdict in exclusive interview

Fresh off another guilty verdict, convicted killer Lori Vallow Daybell spoke exclusively about what happened to Tylee Ryan to her defense of the "Nephi" text messages and her reaction to the verdict.

www.azfamily.com

 

[Cindizzi]

I was sifting thru some of the court records and noticed several records where the Judge indicated that Alex Cox testified.....(these are from records the Judge writes)

Alex even pointed out the defendant in court.
View attachment 581443JMOO but seems kinda sloppy to me. When I started seeing Alex Cox, the witness, on the 3rd document I stopped thinking it was just a simple typo. Ooof.

Wow.
Surely it was meant to say ADAM Cox. ?

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[MTW2011]

Wow.
Surely it was meant to say ADAM Cox. ?

I imagine so, but seems like quite an error to make.

I also found that on day 2, when it was brought up that a juror had possibly watched a YouTube video about the case in the past, the Judge’s notes were (IMOO) very limited.

He noted only that a “discussion” was held. I know there’s obviously going to be transcripts someday, but on other days the Judge wrote paragraphs of what had occurred during the day. Seems a bit odd to memorialize that juror convo as just a “discussion held”
But JMO

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Same old from LVD.

 

[sassyblue]

Lori Vallow Daybell reacts to guilty verdict in exclusive interview​

By Briana Whitney and David Baker
Published: Apr. 24, 2025 at 6:03 PM MDTUpdated: 2 hours ago
PHOENIX (AZFamily) — So-called “Doomsday Mom” Lori Vallow Daybell said in an exclusive interview she wasn’t expecting to be found guilty of conspiring to murder her fourth husband, Charles Vallow. She sat down with True Crime Arizona correspondent Briana Whitney on Thursday.

Vallow Daybell said she was stunned by Tuesday’s verdict. “I mean, obviously I knew that was a possibility, yeah, so, it was a bit of a surprise actually,” she said.

[…]

Lori Vallow Daybell reacts to guilty verdict in exclusive interview

Fresh off another guilty verdict, convicted killer Lori Vallow Daybell spoke exclusively about what happened to Tylee Ryan to her defense of the "Nephi" text messages and her reaction to the verdict.

www.azfamily.com

She really is such a delusional . Wish someone could slap her so hard upside her head and jolt her back to reality and make her remember and admit all the murders she has committed. She killed her own daughter that she gave birth to!! And her very young adopted child. HOW on earth could you ever kill your own children??

Nothing is unbelievable after that. I still think she and Alex murdered Tylee's father somehow, some way and I also think Alex's death is still a murder...it happened at just the right time for her and Chad.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

https://www.facebook.com/100057770485042/posts/1226546619281009

 

[Steelhead]

Maybe juror Karl was innocently trying to watch the trial on YouTube to refresh his memory and saw the news ticker on the bottom of the screen repeatedly stating Lori’s past convictions, etc. That would make sense to me!

 

[Nikynoo]

Thank you Megnut. I follow you on so many cases and you can state things so well. It’s what i am thinking but i say it all wrong.

For those who watched Tass, the juror in an interview with Lauren this afternoon, Tass stated that when the jurors were walking out in the hallway, they heard people wondering out loud if the jurors know JJ and Tylee are dead. Granted this was at the end of the day. But my thought was that it was possible that Karl may have overheard something in the hallways the evening before. Tass also said the jurors had already agreed that night that she was guilty but one of them wanted to sleep on it. Could have been Karl. We will know in the end.

Meanwhile, thanks for your thoughtful post. Edited because I did not post any angry faces. Don’t know where it came from.

Thank you for your post. I knew I had read this somewhere. Thought I was imagining it when I couldn’t find the article.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I was on jury duty over 20 years ago and we all went out and had lunch wherever we wanted to. We were just told we weren’t allowed to talk to anyone, including each other, about what we heard in court. The only time we were given lunch was when we were deliberating.

I gather your jury duty wasn't on a horrific high profile cases?

Tass said the same thing.
They could mingle, eat in the cafeteria or head out for lunch.
Deliberating was the only time the court provided lunch.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Maybe juror Karl was innocently trying to watch the trial on YouTube to refresh his memory and saw the news ticker on the bottom of the screen repeatedly stating Lori’s past convictions, etc. That would make sense to me!

Exactly what the judge said do not do.
No legal claim to innocence there.
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

Thank you for your post. I knew I had read this somewhere. Thought I was imagining it when I couldn’t find the article.

If Karl or any other juror heard anything about LVD's past they were to inform the judge.

 

[Kemug]

Years ago I was on a jury, where the guy actually admitted in court that he was guilty! (Not murder, in fact the police caught him red-handed making drugs in his garage). You would think that the 12 of us would have no trouble reaching a unanimous guilty verdict, wouldn't you? But no, one lady refused to believe he was guilty because "I know what police are like". In her defence, she had originally come from a country in central Europe, where no doubt she had witnessed police do bad things. We pointed out to her again and again that the accused had admitted he was guilty, finally we asked our sheriff if he could get us a transcript of that part of the proceedings. Then she finally caved in.

 

[Nikynoo]

If Karl or any other juror heard anything about LVD's past they were to inform the judge.

Apparently, it was when they were headed out of court (though the wording was rather vague). I'm taking this to mean after they reached a verdict.

I think Arizona is really loosy goosey with jurors (letting them mingle with Joe public during the trial). They don't even give them a lunch allowance (according to Tass).

 

[Izzylizzy]

Apparently, it was when they were headed out of court (though the wording was rather vague). I'm taking this to mean after they reached a verdict.

I think Arizona is really loosy goosey with jurors (letting them mingle with Joe public during the trial). They don't even give them a lunch allowance (according to Tass).

When leaving the court for good is when Tass and jurors were being told about LVD's past criminal convictions.
We have no idea when, where or how Karl knew about LVD's 3 life sentences the day before when driving home from deliberations.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Nate with Tass

 

[Megnut]

Wow.

First day of deliberation, those 17 minutes, they were just waiting. Didn't start deliberating until the next day.

Reached a verdict in 30-40 minutes.

JMO

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