GUILTY Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, found dead in suitcase, 12 Aug 2014 #1

[katydid23]

Their passports were locked up and they had no access. They 'hid' bloody towels in the garden. They rolled mom's body past all the surveillance cameras, put the bloody suitcase in a taxi cab, then ran off in the other direction? And Music-boy tweeted about the whole mess first?

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[marlywings]

August 14, 2014 10:26PM

INDONESIAN police are conducting mental health checks on a US teenager suspected of killing her mother and stuffing her battered body into a suitcase on the resort island of Bali.

HEATHER Mack, 19, broke down in tears during questioning and claimed three men had sought to rob her and her mother in the luxury hotel where they were staying shortly before the death, police said.

However police said Mack and her boyfriend, 21-year-old Tommy Schaefer, who have both been arrested in connection with the gruesome killing, had now been officially named suspects and insisted there was strong evidence against the pair.

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaki...suitcase-in-bali/story-e6frfkui-1227024116354

 

[Quester]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-po...ed-in-bali-20140814-103xzv.html#ixzz3ALkWKxoi

"... They went directly to Ngurah Rai airport and the immigration counter, saying they had lost their passports and needed new ones to fly out. ..."

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I wonder where they intended to fly? What their thwarted plans included?

[knuckleheads!]

 

[nightwatch]

What a beautiful resort! It's hard to imagine such violence happening on what should have been a lovely vacation.

Good clear pictures of the daughter and the boyfriend after being apprehended. I don't see any scratches or bruises on them, but the boyfriend hides his face. Unfortunately, I think the mother, Sheila, tried to defend herself but was overpowered. JMO, but it sounds as though she may have been sleeping or it bed when first attacked.

By the way, I ran a search and found pics of the main prison in Bali. IMO, it looked clean and not horrible enough for whoever did this to dear Sheila. Bali has very strict drug laws and I wonder if either of them had any drugs on them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-stuffed-suitcase-outside-5-star-hotel.html

Wait a minute if this article is correct there were 86 police calls. My word!

ciao

 

[oh_gal]

The teen was pictured smoking and smiling Wednesday while in custody

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-stuffed-suitcase-outside-5-star-hotel.html

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I hope they both get what is coming to them, and more.
Can you just imagine how they had to work to get her poor mother inside that suitcase? . Both of them.

 

[PaperDoll]

Friends warned Shelia not to take her daughter on vacation, she was a vicious little monster:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-stuffed-suitcase-outside-5-star-hotel.html

 

[LietKynes]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-27...-friends-going-meet-wasn-t-sure-d-return.html
".....Television broadcast images of Mack, dressed in a pale grey hoodie and denim shorts, laughing and telling a group of reporters following her, 'You are crazy,' as she walked between rooms in the police station...."

Sounds like that daughter is messed up. She appears to have had a privileged life and threw it away.
:moo:

 

[ilovewings]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-27...-friends-going-meet-wasn-t-sure-d-return.html
".....Television broadcast images of Mack, dressed in a pale grey hoodie and denim shorts, laughing and telling a group of reporters following her, 'You are crazy,' as she walked between rooms in the police station...."

Sounds like that daughter is messed up. She appears to have had a privileged life and threw it away.
:moo:

sounds like she is evil; period; a bad seed. her poor mother apparently didn't see it.

 

[Quester]

Looks like no broken fingernails on missy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-friends-going-meet-wasn-t-sure-d-return.html

 

[Goose22]

See, this is what I mean about me being curious. :smile:
On his fb, he put her name with <333 after it.
According to the Urban Dictionary, it could mean half evil, or half the anti-Christ, a semi-Christ,
or I love you. Which is it?
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I've never heard of three hearts meaning anything more than three hearts. Granted, I don't put much stock in Urban Dictionary since people like to make definitions up for fun.

 

[Quester]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-bali-suitcase-death-20140813-story.html#page=1

" ... There were signs of tension shortly before the Bali trip, however, as von Wiese-Mack reported to police that her credit card was being used on July 23 without her permission at the Conrad Hotel in Chicago. When police arrived at the tony downtown hotel, they discovered [HM] and her boyfriend, [TS], had used the card to book a room and ring up nearly $1,000 in charges.

[TS], 21, was arrested for misdemeanor disorderly conduct after acting unruly during the police response. The Oak Park native was scheduled to appear in court later this month. ..."

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BBM

 

[gitana1]

This is a really tragic case all-round. It sounds as if the daughter has a serious history of mental illness........that article posted a little bit earlier today mentions psychotic episondes. She obviously needed some serious help.

Her poor mother.....it's so hard as the mum. You always want to give your child the benefit of the doubt and give them another chance.

Unfortunately though, this is the end result.....:facepalm:

I wonder what the boyfriend's role in this was?

I don't know. I kind of think being an entitled, spoiled brat plays a huge part in this. I can't blame it all on mental illness.

Well, she's a juvenile. The sad thing is most parents will NEVER give up on their child, despite all evidence that their child does not reciprocate their love, & some may spend their last moments knowing their own child is killing them. & I guess it's not really sad,just tragic & chilling, because most parents I know would willingly give their lives for their kids.

She's 19. Not a juvenile anymore!

He seems like a nice kid. What happened?!

I didn't quite get that impression from his social media.

Wow. only 15 yrs? If I ever decide to kill someone I guess I should take them on a trip to Bali first....

Definitely just something akin to manslaughter. That's what they're investigating. But they have greater charges. Murder is punishable by death there

 

[gitana1]

Mack's attorney says she wasn't involved:

He said Mack called because she was thinking of going to the authorities for help, and she sounded numb.


&#8220;It appeared to me that she was trying to keep it together,&#8221; Elkin said. &#8220;She needed assistance in getting to the embassy and how to go about it.&#8221;


Elkin said he advised Mack to go to the U.S. consulate, but she never made it. Instead she and Schaefer were arrested, and were being held as suspects in von Wiese-Mack&#8217;s murder. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/08...asnt-involved-in-moms-gruesome-death-in-bali/

 

[gitana1]

Reading more about this case it appears to me these were two very spoiled young people who wanted what they wanted and felt Ms. Mack was in the way.

The young man appears to be a well to do, wanna be , tough guy. The gal seems to be an out of control brat with conduct disorder. Or intermittent explosive disorder.

The possible planning and then later attempts to cover up the crime tell me these two were not very encumbered by mental illness.

I'm sorry for this lady and happy these two will be dealing with the Indonesian justice system. They will be unlikely to ever get out of there alive. He can cover his face and she can laugh all she wants. Their free ride is way, way over. Now they get to live the rest of their lives, not jet setting with Ms. Mack or living I'm hotels and whiling away their time at the beach, but inside a horrid Indonesian prison!

 

[gitana1]

It kind of cracks me up how Indonesian authorities allow arrested suspects to smoke.

 

[Suthrnqt]

It never ceases to amaze me, some of the ridiculous stories that killers make up. :facepalm:

Me either, Katy. Me either.

 

[Quester]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ter-luxury-hotel-lobby-just-hours-murder.html

"... As police began the difficult task of trying to question the pair in detail, fingerprint experts were examining pieces of glass from an unidentified object that is believed to have been used to bludgeon Mrs Mack in room 616 in the hope of finding clues as to whether it was [HM] or [TS] who had last touched the suspected murder weapon.

While suspicion remains on both young people, as they were the only ones seen entering the room on CCTV footage, police said their initial inquiries suggested the perpetrator of the crime was the daughter. ..."

"... Mrs Mack’s troubled daughter, who is understood to have been adopted. ... has always been a very disturbed girl. She was extremely spoiled and would often scream and throw things until she got her way ..."

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BBM

 

[Curious Me]

Peeking behind the fancy resort pictures and doing some computer searches about Bali. Any innocent tourist should do some research before traveling, and more so, anyone planning to commit a crime there. Yikes!

Strange place with what seems a strange legal system. MOO.
You can be put to death in front of a firing squad for some drugs! Yet, only get fifteen years in prison for killing someone?

Anybody going there should really do some computer searches. Let me just say, there's so much controversial reading material online about Bali.

Sounds like it's uncomfortably humid in the main prison and death by disease is possible.

IMO, these two who apparently murdered Sheila will not have a happy future.

 

[Curious Me]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ter-luxury-hotel-lobby-just-hours-murder.html

"... As police began the difficult task of trying to question the pair in detail, fingerprint experts were examining pieces of glass from an unidentified object that is believed to have been used to bludgeon Mrs Mack in room 616 in the hope of finding clues as to whether it was [HM] or [TS] who had last touched the suspected murder weapon.

While suspicion remains on both young people, as they were the only ones seen entering the room on CCTV footage, police said their initial inquiries suggested the perpetrator of the crime was the daughter. ..."

"... Mrs Mack&#8217;s troubled daughter, who is understood to have been adopted. ... has always been a very disturbed girl. She was extremely spoiled and would often scream and throw things until she got her way ..."

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BBM

Oh, JMO, I bet she had a lot to do with it.

I don't think she was adopted though.

 

[zwiebel]

I think they'll be found guilty, and I think they'll pretty soon be asking to have their sentences served in the US.

It will be a travesty if mom's money is used to fund their defences, but I fear it might be. I suspect daughter will inherit all, unless someone objects.