CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #2

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #81
Law enforcement's reaction is very telling imo. If they thought that RH's story was valid, wouldn't they warn Yucaipa parents that a potential kidnapper is on the loose? They've never warned the public, correct?

Like I said, just a matter of time before the Tacoma's GPS and their phone data is sourced and mapped. Along with the lack of video footage of an actual abduction at the Big 5 (she fell down and got up only), isn't that enough to arrest on suspicion of murder or at least child endangerment/abuse?
True, they didn't warn the public of a baby-stealer, nor did they ask the public to be on the lookout for someone who suddenly has a new child.

They knew from the get-go, as did we.

jmopinion
 
Last edited:
  • #82
At this point, I am waiting for charges, and possibly grand jury review to up the charges.

I think most of us are waiting for this as well. It’s only a matter of time.

Law enforcement's reaction is very telling imo. If they thought that RH's story was valid, wouldn't they warn Yucaipa parents that a potential kidnapper is on the loose? They've never warned the public, correct?

Like I said, just a matter of time before the Tacoma's GPS and their phone data is sourced and mapped. Along with the lack of video footage of an actual abduction at the Big 5 (she fell down and got up only), isn't that enough to arrest on suspicion of murder or at least child endangerment/abuse?

Not to be morbid, but I think at this point, LE is looking for either a body and/or collecting solid evidence of a homicide. I’d imagine JH is going to be spending time in jail soon enough; anyone else culpable won’t be far behind.

Unfortunately, the kind of crime that most of us believe has probably been committed takes time and substantial evidence to build a case against. What we believe and infer is one thing: what can be proven in a court of law is another.

Justice delayed is not justice denied.
 
  • #83
your fingertips to the higher power's eye

The husband has the same attorney who got him off last time. Sounds like he will do the same game plan as last time, blame Mama.

We don't know the status of Mom here. Whether she will take the fall, blame him, or say nothing.

I remember the trial for Orrin and Orson West, I was sure Jacqueline would say something, blame Trezell West, and turn evidence for the state to at least continue to be with her sons. She never said a word. Both of them continued to state they were not guilty. They were both convicted, 15-life.

It is going to be more difficult without a body. But it can be done.
 
  • #84
Infuriating that I haven’t checked on this case for a few days, and we’re essentially in the same position we were before. I can only hope that LE knows more than we do.

This entire case feels like a case we’ve seen time and time again, where an abusive parent crosses the line into homicide, and the (potentially abused) spouse goes along with her partner instead of her child. I hope that Emmanuel can be found, whether alive or not, but I have a sinking feeling this is going to turn into one more no body case involving small children and reprehensible “caregivers”.

I understand what an abused woman may be going through; what I don’t understand is being a grown woman, with multiple children, and multiple opportunities to disconnect from a younger man who is clearly violent toward children, continually choosing him over anyone else. There’s a point where you have to step up, regardless of the situation: especially when your own defenseless children are involved.

If RH is less culpable than the waste of male DNA she married, I certainly hope that a competent lawyer can help her separate from him and admit to what happened.
As distasteful as it is, we need to understand not every battered woman is the same. You can be battered and still be a rotten mother. JMO
 
  • #85
The husband has the same attorney who got him off last time. Sounds like he will do the same game plan as last time, blame Mama.

We don't know the status of Mom here. Whether she will take the fall, blame him, or say nothing.

I remember the trial for Orrin and Orson West, I was sure Jacqueline would say something, blame Trezell West, and turn evidence for the state to at least continue to be with her sons. She never said a word. Both of them continued to state they were not guilty. They were both convicted, 15-life.

It is going to be more difficult without a body. But it can be done.
JMO. I think it's probably easier to bring charges against someone without a body when it is a child that has disappeared versus an adult. An adult can disappear willingly, but a child cannot, especially not a 7 month old.
 
  • #86
JMO. I think it's probably easier to bring charges against someone without a body when it is a child that has disappeared versus an adult. An adult can disappear willingly, but a child cannot, especially not a 7 month old.

Yes. And either they both stick together, and say nothing. Or they throw each other under the bus.
 
  • #87
JMO. I think it's probably easier to bring charges against someone without a body when it is a child that has disappeared versus an adult. An adult can disappear willingly, but a child cannot, especially not a 7 month old.

Exactly.

Emmanuel is not a teenaged runaway.

We have a father who has already beaten the crap out of his TEN-WEEK OLD DAUGHTER, so this would not be a case of “oh, he’s the nicest man, wouldn’t hurt a fly, I can’t believe it,” as so often happens.

Did RH feel she had no options if the father did something to this tiny baby? Did she collude? Is she solely responsible?

We will find out.

The one thing that I absolutely reject is that Emmanuel was kidnapped from the car.

As my fellow posters have said, the police are not warning the community about some kidnapper out there, and they have declared the mother’s story to be inconsistent, so therefore not true.

Still hoping for a working camera that tells all.

JMO
 
  • #88
Do we know who all lived in the house with Rebecca and Jake? <modsnip: removed reference to information from a non-approved source>
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #89
I'm guessing that if they had Dr.s examine the 2 year old they found no old fractures or her parents would be in jail.
I'm also wondering where was she that day? At the ballfield? Was she vaxed?
I think that some of the steps they would usually take might be delayed or deferred in this situation. I'm sure the 2-year-old has been examined by now, but I'm guessing that even if they found evidence of abuse, they might wait (since she's in a safe place) to pursue a case related to that while efforts to locate Emmanuel are ongoing. They might be able to use this information to facilitate communication from the parents, or they might not want the parents and their lawyers to focus on it while they try to find the baby and build their case.
 
  • #90
MOO

I think we all know that sweet Emmanuel is no longer with us.

My guess is that they “disposed” of him in a dumpster.

I’m just waiting to hear the chatter about searches in a landfill.

I just feel sick.

MOO
 
  • #91
I think this is a restraining order for the son who was at the game the night of the fake kidnapping, imo. That son has a mother different than the mother of the child who is disabled from beating.

If I have it right (and what we know right now)
1 son - who played in the game
2 children - adopted by cousin
2 children - with RH

Plus the two adult children of RH by her previous husband.

jmopinion
Soooo, which child did RH not count when he hit on "6"?
 
  • #92
MOO

I think we all know that sweet Emmanuel is no longer with us.

My guess is that they “disposed” of him in a dumpster.

I’m just waiting to hear the chatter about searches in a landfill.

I just feel sick.

MOO
Presuming Emmanuel is deceased, am leaning buried in the not-far-away desert. But they simply are not (IMO) the sharpest crayons in the box.

Desert just generally speaking does not cough up its secrets as quickly and winds can blow over dug up earth in relatively short order.

We do not know yet the last day he was seen alive. Landfills (most) are arguably easier IF they were crazy enough to use one in their neighborhood.
 
  • #93
Soooo, which child did RH not count when he hit on "6"?
This is a TOTAL guess, but I think there might be one more child we don't know about yet. I think he did not count RH's adult children, only his own.

Or, he can't count.

Or, possibly, he was counting the kids other than Emmanuel since the interviewer would already know about that one.

Who knows.

jmopinion
 
  • #94
Presuming Emmanuel is deceased, am leaning buried in the not-far-away desert. But they simply are not (IMO) the sharpest crayons in the box.

Desert just generally speaking does not cough up its secrets as quickly and winds can blow over dug up earth in relatively short order.

We do not know yet the last day he was seen alive. Landfills (most) are arguably easier IF they were crazy enough to use one in their neighborhood.
I think the best bet in finding him is if mom provides the info. I thought she would've done so by now, tbh. It's been a week.

jmopinion
 
  • #95
MOO

I think we all know that sweet Emmanuel is no longer with us.

My guess is that they “disposed” of him in a dumpster.

I’m just waiting to hear the chatter about searches in a landfill.

I just feel sick.

MOO

Unfortunately, this is my assumption as well. Small, dependent children, especially infants, can be “disappeared” easier than larger children and adults— but as another poster mentioned, this cuts both ways: a child that small can’t vanish on his own, and it should be much easier for any remotely qualified prosecutor to prove homicide, body or not. Especially with this case and the parents’ history.
 
  • #96
Updated story on the restraining order a previous wife filed against JH.

"The request, filed Aug. 19 in Riverside family court, also seeks protection for the couple’s son. A hearing on the matter is scheduled for Sept. 9."

 
  • #97
Updated story on the restraining order a previous wife filed against JH.

"The request, filed Aug. 19 in Riverside family court, also seeks protection for the couple’s son. A hearing on the matter is scheduled for Sept. 9."

"In 2024, while still on probation, Haro was arrested in Banning and charged with illegally possessing a firearm and ammunition. That case remains active in Riverside County Superior Court".

Good grief. They could pick him up today on the weapon and ammunition charge. Why is he still walking the streets?!
 
  • #98
Did I tell you guys , that I hate Jake?
 
  • #99
"In 2024, while still on probation, Haro was arrested in Banning and charged with illegally possessing a firearm and ammunition. That case remains active in Riverside County Superior Court".

Good grief. They could pick him up today on the weapon and ammunition charge. Why is he still walking the streets?!
He has been on the court docket for Sept 2 hearing for that 2024 arrest. With luck he will lose his bail money AND get thrown behind bars for a nice stretch.
 
  • #100
He has been on the court docket for Sept 2 hearing for that 2024 arrest. With luck he will lose his bail money AND get thrown behind bars for a nice stretch.
WHY HAVE THEY NOT REVOKED HIS BOND?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Staff online

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
55
Guests online
2,269
Total visitors
2,324

Forum statistics

Threads
632,534
Messages
18,628,026
Members
243,185
Latest member
TheMultiLucy☮️
Back
Top