CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[tlcya]

we don't see the words person of interest or suspect below but we all know LE rarely says that anymore. Sounds like mom is no longer cooperating if reading between the lines and so LE now think foul play involving one or more of the parents. Abduction would have been foul play as well, but that IMO is not what LE is conveying with this new information.
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Investigators interviewed multiple individuals, including Emmanuel’s parents Jake and Rebecca Haro. During those interviews, Rebecca was confronted with inconsistencies in her initial statement and declined to continue with the interview. At this point in the investigation, investigators are unable to rule out foul play in the disappearance of Emmanuel.
The Search for Baby Emmanuel Haro Continues; Investigators Cannot Rule Out Foul Play from SBSD - Headquarters : Nixle

 

[Saraheh91]

Im sorry but the fact that an Amber alert hasn’t been issued says it all IMO.

Panhandlers and transients are not stealing children in this economy.

I agree. I never said they were. I was saying that she wasn’t making up a lie simply about race. It could have just been the most realistic lie she could think of.
Also, amber alerts need suspect and vehicle info to be issued

 

[Danaya]

Oh that sweet little baby boy. The detail of him wearing his little onesie breaks my heart. Praying for his safe return, let's hope he's still alive.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I agree. I never said they were. I was saying that she wasn’t making up a lie simply about race. It could have just been the most realistic lie she could think of.
Also, amber alerts need suspect and vehicle info to be issued

I knew exactly what you meant. I used to get confronted the same way there so it would have been a believable thing to say (whether true in this case, or not).

 

[borndem]

That can be a benefit right now - he is distinguishable and noticeable.

Thinking of this little guy.

jmopinion

Yes, my thoughts as well. Beautiful boy.

 

[ASipowicz]

So RH stated she laid the baby down next to his car seat and then reached for a diaper. She heard the "Hola" and woke up "right here on the floor" implying she woke up in the parking lot. She didn't say she woke up in the pickup truck. So ... how did the kidnapper manage to reach into the truck and hit her face while she was getting the diaper while she was probably crouched down in the back seat looking for that diaper? THEN she falls out of the car and wakes up on the ground. Was she knocked unconscious by being hit in the face? How did she manage to fall out of the vehicle? Also, how old are the other two kids that were with the family that night? There should have been at least one other car seat in the back seat ... would there have been room to lay the baby on the seat? I'm not buying her story, and the heaving and fake crying sealed it for me. And why no photos of baby E smiling ...

 

[seasideForest]

Where are the pictures of this baby I’m so mad that we haven’t seen any real pictures

And of those we have seen there are more than one where IMO the baby doesn't look happy or contented. In fact rather unhappy. That could be the result of the disability he allegedly has but otoh there are parents who get good photos of their children with physical disability. The child can be happy and pain-free (you'd hope) some of the time. MOO

 

[ttjo]

I dont think it will take L.E. long to get to the bottom of this one.

 

[KooshBall]

I feel sad for the other children in this family. They have lost a sibling and soon may "lose" their parents.

 

[wvmoonangel]

LE isn't ruling out foul play because they are seeing inconsistencies with her story

'Inconsistencies' found in statement by mom of missing baby, San Bernardino County authorities say

Citing "inconsistencies" in a statement made by the mother of a missing 7-month-old boy, San Bernardino County authorities said they "cannot rule out foul play."

abc7.com

 

[TMich6811]

And of those we have seen there are more than one where IMO the baby doesn't look happy or contented. In fact rather unhappy. That could be the result of the disability he allegedly has but otoh there are parents who get good photos of their children with physical disability. The child can be happy and pain-free (you'd hope) some of the time. MOO

And maybe bruised in one or 2

 

[Cardgame]

I wonder if they took a pram to the game? empty pram to make it look like they had the baby with them? Or even to convince the other kids?

I am wishing for some kind of scam on behalf of the parents, an attempt for a go...fnd...me, desperately hoping the baby could still turn up alive?

But I must be naive because I found her grief in the interview convincing .

 

[Lusitana]

He's such a cute baby. Hoping for his safe return, but this doesn't sound good.

 

[mickey2942]

Oh that sweet little baby boy. The detail of him wearing his little onesie breaks my heart. Praying for his safe return, let's hope he's still alive.

Agreed. Prayers for him. He does look like he has a disability, the one picture released. Maybe a vision impairment, or cortical impairment.

So odd to me, just like Orrin and Orson West, barely 2 pictures of them. I have a cat, and probably took 30 pictures of her this week, or more. Good grief, my friend posts 25 pictures of her dog on Facebook daily.

It just surprises me, that some parents don't have 10,000 pictures of their kids on their phones. It seems important to release several different pictures, to help people look for their child.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

When considering the abduction story, since I’ve watched a lot of SVU over the years, I could think of a reason that could cause a man to take a baby on impulse, so I couldn’t dismiss it as completely implausible.

But MOO, LE has now all but confirmed the baby was not abducted by a stranger. Earlier I laid out my reasons for believing they were not treating this as a kidnapping, and now we know (generally) why.

Speaking of SVU, I recall there was an old episode where a parent called in a kidnapping to cover up what turned out to be a death that did not result from foul play, but especially with the information about the charges against the father, foul play seems most likely. And while I will still generally not judge the sincerity of a parent’s reaction from a television appearance, I think if LE had detected any normal grief from the mother, which you would see even with a negligent death, the statement might have read differently. So, MOO we’re looking at foul play.

I think domestic violence by the father against both the baby and mother could explain a lot of the weirdness. I think that’s actually most likely. The theory then would be that the mother has her reasons for not wanting to leave him or have him go to jail, and has been complicit. And that could be the cause of the black eye (the consensus seems to be that the bruise looks old, which would rule out the possibility of a self-inflicted bruise to support the story).

When you frame the task as, “what’s a story that could explain this black eye and a missing baby that won’t have authorities looking in Cabazon?”, then I think you’re getting closer to something that makes some sense. If there is abuse in that house, I would assume they have a long history of their children not telling on them, which would explain why they didn’t consider that to be a flaw in their story.

So given what we now know, I expect we will learn that the baby was not seen alive by any witnesses or cameras in Yucaipa that day.

Still curious about why she wasn’t worried about cameras quickly disproving her story. I have no theory there.

 

[squareandrabbet]

You can get a black eye from getting hit anywhere on or near the face. The blood will pool where there’s room and that’s around the eyes.

That said, if she was hit from behind or the side, there wouldn’t be a black eye. Again, it looks like an old wound, about a week old.

How about if she gets hit from the back, pitches forward onto a hard object as she goes down and lands with/on her eye side?... that's kind of how I got my aforementioned tiny piece of black eye - fell forward onto a road.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

How about if she gets hit from the back, pitches forward onto a hard object as she goes down and lands with/on her eye side?... that's kind of how I got my aforementioned tiny piece of black eye - fell forward onto a road.

If she falls forward onto her face, that counts as being hit/struck in or near the face.

That bruise looks too old for happening on day the baby disappeared.

 

[Herat]

The location she reported from is just a couple of blocks and two stoplights from the Yucaipa Police Department

How convenient.

 

[Lucy6226]

Caught up, hmmm. LE stating there is inconsistencies and that mum has stopped responding to their questions....sounds like pretty much what we all expected. Hopefully some arrests to follow soon. MOO

 

[Chimera]

When considering the abduction story, since I’ve watched a lot of SVU over the years, I could think of a reason that could cause a man to take a baby on impulse, so I couldn’t dismiss it as completely implausible.

But MOO, LE has now all but confirmed the baby was not abducted by a stranger. Earlier I laid out my reasons for believing they were not treating this as a kidnapping, and now we know (generally) why.

Speaking of SVU, I recall there was an old episode where a parent called in a kidnapping to cover up what turned out to be a death that did not result from foul play, but especially with the information about the charges against the father, foul play seems most likely. And while I will still generally not judge the sincerity of a parent’s reaction from a television appearance, I think if LE had detected any normal grief from the mother, which you would see even with a negligent death, the statement might have read differently. So, MOO we’re looking at foul play.

I think domestic violence by the father against both the baby and mother could explain a lot of the weirdness. I think that’s actually most likely. The theory then would be that the mother has her reasons for not wanting to leave him or have him go to jail, and has been complicit. And that could be the cause of the black eye (the consensus seems to be that the bruise looks old, which would rule out the possibility of a self-inflicted bruise to support the story).

When you frame the task as, “what’s a story that could explain this black eye and a missing baby that won’t have authorities looking in Cabazon?”, then I think you’re getting closer to something that makes some sense. If there is abuse in that house, I would assume they have a long history of their children not telling on them, which would explain why they didn’t consider that to be a flaw in their story.

So given what we now know, I expect we will learn that the baby was not seen alive by any witnesses or cameras in Yucaipa that day.

Still curious about why she wasn’t worried about cameras quickly disproving her story. I have no theory there.

Bbm.
Agreed & great point made. ^^^

She would've known IF there was a kidnapping, that the first place authorities will go to -- esp. in a public place -- will be the cameras to check the vehicles coming & going ?
Imo.