CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[Knox]

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I don’t need to read the comments after watching the video of his parents, JMO.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

Re: what LE is saying/not saying —

I took a step back and considered how I’d expect this to play out if there was any evidence of a stranger kidnapping (or an absence of evidence to preclude a stranger kidnapping). If true, this crime is horrifying. Every hour counts in a stranger kidnapping. They would know the clock is ticking. Parents are going to be terrified. No longer safe to be at your car with your child in a store parking lot in daylight during store hours? How can parents function avoiding being in that situation? And this would be an incredibly brazen offender, a very dangerous individual that needs to be caught. For all those reasons, I’d expect law enforcement to be holding a press conference, updating the public on all the effort they’re putting in, and urging the public for specific tips to fill in blanks they currently have.

But most telling for me — if Yucaipa police believed this baby was kidnapped as described, MOO the FBI surely would have been called in. Yucaipa couldn’t possibly have the FBI’s expertise in this area. And even if they did, every minute counts — you need the manpower. And you need to be able to tell a scared community that everything is being done to find this predator. The FBI will get involved with cases of kidnappings of young children, even if there is no reason to think state lines were crossed.

Then let’s look at what the police have said (the cite for the below is the Yucaipa Police Department Facebook Page updates). The first post a day ago asked for the public’s help in locating the child, and gave a physical description. It was reported as a missing child, not a kidnapping.

This morning, they said they were continuing to investigate a “reported kidnapping” after the “mother reported being attacked.” At a minimum, this means that more than 12 hours later, with likely police working through the night, they have found no corroborating evidence of either a kidnapping or an attack. I’m not seeing any examples of that being standard language for reporting crimes. Hedging language like that is not usually used with respect to victims. No longer asking for public assistance to look for the child.

This evening: 24 hours has passed, the situation would be very dire in a stranger kidnapping. The update gets briefer. Refers again to “reportedly kidnapped” and again no plea for public assistance. MOO they’re sending the message that they’re trying to locate a missing child that was reported kidnapped, not trying to find a kidnapper and a kidnapped child.

 

[Tortoise]

Hmm.

I expected the mother to say 'a man' or 'a woman' said hola. I expected her to say she ran into the store and asked if they had seen 'a man' or 'a woman' with a baby. She said 'somebody said hola' and asked if the lady had seen 'someone with a baby'. The father said 'they' took our son, so he doesn't appear to know either.

It's not just a tap on the shoulder, if that report was even correct, it's a voice and another person's presence up close, a hand that struck, with an energy. Not even 'I think it was a male/female'.

JMO

eta - report of a tap on the shoulder here -

"According to the family, the mother was changing the baby when someone reportedly tapped her on the shoulder and knocked her unconscious."
Deputies Investigate Alleged Kidnapping of 7-Month-Old on Yucaipa Boulevard - Victor Valley News

 

[Tortoise]

There's another slightly different interview of the mother here

2.4M views · 17K reactions | A mother, whose 7-month-old baby was taken Thursday night in Southern California as she changed his diaper in her car, is pleading for her son's return.� "I'm begging you, please, if you know anything, I'm begging you, p

A mother, whose 7-month-old baby was taken Thursday night in Southern California as she changed his diaper in her car, is pleading for her son's return.� "I'm begging you, please, if you know...

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She says there's no cameras and no lighting.

 

[Taffy550]

Please Please let this baby be found. He looks well care for in the pics.

 

[Jw192]

There's another slightly different interview of the mother here

2.4M views · 17K reactions | A mother, whose 7-month-old baby was taken Thursday night in Southern California as she changed his diaper in her car, is pleading for her son's return.� "I'm begging you, please, if you know anything, I'm begging you, p

A mother, whose 7-month-old baby was taken Thursday night in Southern California as she changed his diaper in her car, is pleading for her son's return.� "I'm begging you, please, if you know...

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She says there's no cameras and no lighting.

There will be cameras. Just because mama didn't see any or the carpark ones were "broken" doesn't mean that they weren't any. The coppers will find them and then hopefully we will know more.

Hinkey hinkey hinkey

 

[Tortoise]

Don't those mouth guards need to be soaked in boiling water and then moulded to the teeth? Or have things changed since my kids needed them for sports?

 

[Poedelini]

Please let this be the case where he is going to be found safe. Hoping for a good outcome for precious baby Emmanuel.

 

[Taffy550]

There will be cameras. Just because mama didn't see any or the carpark ones were "broken" doesn't mean that they weren't any. The coppers will find them and then hopefully we will know more.

Hinkey hinkey hinkey

Me too. Just not again.

 

[katydid23]

Don't those mouth guards need to be soaked in boiling water and then moulded to the teeth? Or have things changed since my kids needed them for sports?

google AI:

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[Deleted member 117884]

Comments expecting a mother to be crying and begging for the return of her child always bother me — why do people want to see that? Why should a mother in the worst moment of her life be expected to go through that? It feels exploitative to expect.

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It's not that anyone WANTS to see a mother crying. But fake crying is something that is noticed.

Some parents are very stoic. I'm thinking of Dylan Rounds' mom. She wasn't the crying type and she wasn't universally liked by the public, but she didn't care. The story wasn't about her, but about Dylan. Her message was always clear - find my kid.

Of course different people react differently. But, also, after following many cases, you tend to hone in on hinky behavior.

And, it's reasonable to assess how the story would work in real life. Spatially, how did this kidnapping happen? Her story, in my opinion, is awkward if you think through the movements. But since she was punched to the ground, I guess she can gloss over the details since she was apparently knocked out.

We all WANT to see a "found safe" outcome, fwiw. Nobody wants to see a crying parent of a missing child.

jmopinion

 

[TMich6811]

Re changing diaper in bathroom - in many areas baby changing tables end up being tables for drug use. I don’t know this area but i personally try to avoid them when I can just do it where I know it’s clean of all the things



I believe dad said he was developmentally where he should be? Why are there no pics of him smiling or sitting? Am I missing them?

 

[CityKid]

This is different than initially right?

I thought the original was dad and a child in the store, she left to change baby's diaper in their car rather than a public restroom. I totally get changing a baby in a car rather than in a public restroom. But I'm having trouble with the rest of the story and I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

I think that one of the problems is that comments were being made by people who didn't have first hand knowledge. A couple of the commenters were saying what they had heard from the mother, but it is possible they didn't hear correctly or didn't remember correctly. Many of the comments were made by people who had "read somewhere" or had been told by someone who had been told by someone. I don't think they were trying to be deceptive, just that they didn't have accurate information. I don't believe that either the mother or father said that he was in the store. I also don't believe that the mother gave a description of a person or of a vehicle.

 

[subaw0067]

Comments expecting a mother to be crying and begging for the return of her child always bother me — why do people want to see that? Why should a mother in the worst moment of her life be expected to go through that? It feels exploitative to expect.

It also doesn’t seem to be a natural reaction to me at all. If I were in that situation, I would not want to be on camera, and I would not be able to speak. The only way I’d be able to is with heavy Benzos (and I can only hope a mother in that situation is offered them, it’s also likely the only way I could function enough to be helpful to authorities at all). So if I go on camera sedated by Benzos, I’m going to look like I’m sedated by Benzos. If you don’t consider that, then I’d obviously look off.

I’m also very all or nothing with crying, you’re not likely to get a tearful performance out of me. I can’t recover once I start crying. If I were to go on camera, explaining what happened sounds more manageable to talk about than begging for my child back. And which is more helpful? How often does a kidnapper turn a child because the mother asked on TV? Details of what happened could instead trigger a witness’s memory. Most importantly, it just makes people aware, regardless of what is said.

And while I can see how speaking in the past tense could be a giveaway that the person knows the child isn’t alive, I think people often read too much into it. If I’m thinking of a past event, I’m likely to use past tense. If my child was just kidnapped, I can’t fathom saying my child “is” happy — they were kidnapped by a stranger!!

Trauma can also affect recollections, stories get abbreviated for news coverage which can result in some things appearing inconsistent that aren’t with a longer explanation, and news coverage very often gets something wrong, and early news coverage often gets huge things wrong.

And getting hit from behind causing you to fall forward could surely cause you to hit your face into something causing a black eye, right? Or tapped from behind causing you to turn to look then you’re punched?

All that said, of course when I first heard of this story, my mind first thought that it’ll likely turn out to be the parents. It’s such an unlikely scenario, relative to the more common outcome in such cases.

But as unlikely as that story is, do I actually think coming up with that story as a coverup is more likely? Why pick a location likely to have cameras? Someone acting on impulse would be less likely to consider that. Wouldn’t the other children at least be able to verify the parts of the story they were there for? That scenario ends up feeling even less likely. Of all the coverups to arrive at, how would you think of that much less decide it’s your best option?

Maybe staged or faked for some other reason? A go fund me?

Based on what we currently know (very little), no theory is making very much sense. Hope the little baby is found safe soon.

Im just thinking about the interview with Leticia Stauch. She wouldn’t even face the camera. I would hope that any parent overwhelmed by the needs of a medically complex child would have some sort of respite care, but everyone has a breaking point.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Im just thinking about the interview with Leticia Stauch. She wouldn’t even face the camera. I would hope that any parent overwhelmed by the needs of a medically complex child would have some sort of respite care, but everyone has a breaking point.

Yes, and compare Leticia to Landon, Gannon's mother. I actually cried myself when the called Gannon's everyone's boy (or something like that) because of the public's interest in the case.

My heart definitely goes out to parents with children of special needs. I bet many of us either know that situation first hand or through a relative or friend. It is HARD, no doubt.

But, dubious stories are still noticable. My opinion. I could be wrong and a special-needs baby with a poopy diaper in the back of a vehicle was stolen from a public place and the mom was knocked out cold and can't describe it too much.

jmopinion

 

[oceanverde]

Comments expecting a mother to be crying and begging for the return of her child always bother me — why do people want to see that? Why should a mother in the worst moment of her life be expected to go through that? It feels exploitative to expect.

It also doesn’t seem to be a natural reaction to me at all. If I were in that situation, I would not want to be on camera, and I would not be able to speak. The only way I’d be able to is with heavy Benzos (and I can only hope a mother in that situation is offered them, it’s also likely the only way I could function enough to be helpful to authorities at all). So if I go on camera sedated by Benzos, I’m going to look like I’m sedated by Benzos. If you don’t consider that, then I’d obviously look off.

I’m also very all or nothing with crying, you’re not likely to get a tearful performance out of me. I can’t recover once I start crying. If I were to go on camera, explaining what happened sounds more manageable to talk about than begging for my child back. And which is more helpful? How often does a kidnapper turn a child because the mother asked on TV? Details of what happened could instead trigger a witness’s memory. Most importantly, it just makes people aware, regardless of what is said.

And while I can see how speaking in the past tense could be a giveaway that the person knows the child isn’t alive, I think people often read too much into it. If I’m thinking of a past event, I’m likely to use past tense. If my child was just kidnapped, I can’t fathom saying my child “is” happy — they were kidnapped by a stranger!!

Trauma can also affect recollections, stories get abbreviated for news coverage which can result in some things appearing inconsistent that aren’t with a longer explanation, and news coverage very often gets something wrong, and early news coverage often gets huge things wrong.

And getting hit from behind causing you to fall forward could surely cause you to hit your face into something causing a black eye, right? Or tapped from behind causing you to turn to look then you’re punched?

All that said, of course when I first heard of this story, my mind first thought that it’ll likely turn out to be the parents. It’s such an unlikely scenario, relative to the more common outcome in such cases.

But as unlikely as that story is, do I actually think coming up with that story as a coverup is more likely? Why pick a location likely to have cameras? Someone acting on impulse would be less likely to consider that. Wouldn’t the other children at least be able to verify the parts of the story they were there for? That scenario ends up feeling even less likely. Of all the coverups to arrive at, how would you think of that much less decide it’s your best option?

Maybe staged or faked for some other reason? A go fund me?

Based on what we currently know (very little), no theory is making very much sense. Hope the little baby is found safe soon.

Very well said. I agree with all your points. It definitely COULD have happened like she said. It seems unlikely though.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Because they were allegedly in a public place before this occurred there are parts of this that would be easily verifiable.

Did the mom have a black eye at the game? Did anyone see Emmanuel there? Did she leave the field with Emmanuel?

If all of those are correct, then that’s a very short window of time to where something would have happened to this little boy. We’re talking, in an hour or less, between when her and Emmanuel left the field to the time when he was allegedly abducted.

If he wasn’t abducted, then that gives the mom that same roughly 47 minute timeline to “get rid of” Emmanuel, drive to Big 5, give herself a black eye, and call police. And make sure there’s no cameras or witnesses around the whole time.

I don’t know…that just seems like a very short timeframe in which too many things could go wrong.

 

[MrsWatson]

I have lots of questions.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

I have lots of questions.

We could start anywhere, like with the suspect.

No suspect information is available at this time....
An Amber alert wasn’t issued in this case as no descriptions of the suspect or vehicle were provided, per KTLA.

7-Month-Old Boy 'Kidnapped' After Mom Was Allegedly Attacked While Changing Him in Vehicle

Police are searching for 7-month-old Emmanuel Haro after he was allegedly 'kidnapped' from Yucaipa Boulevard in California on Thursday, Aug. 14, the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department (SBCSD) said in a news release on X.

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