Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

  • #441
There is not a delicate way to ask this, so I apologize. I asked this before, about a week ago, and got no answer. If Heidi's remains are found at the landfill, two months after the "incident" occurred, given the condition of any remains , could the presence of fentanyl be detected if it was a one-time event? If not, what is the likelihood that a COD could even be determined?

I'm not an expert, but it would depend on some factors.

After plane crashes, autopsy reports have been conducted on pilots and plane crew to test for anything that could interfere with their ability to do their job.

Investigation of a fatal airplane crash: autopsy, computed tomography, and injury pattern analysis used to determine who was steering the plane at the time of the accident. A case report - PubMed

I don't know enough about the subject to say if the passage of time makes a difference.
 
  • #442
All I’m saying is, there are 46 million reasons why someone or someone’s would want this woman to “disappear”. Lot of big league suspects in this case.
Edited to add: The entire “dropping muffins off to a sick employee” was staged.
Also, why was Heidi so “scared”?
An “accidental overdose” does not pass the smell test.


I agree with you. But this also seems like a very unlikely place for a planned murder. So many people, cameras everywhere, needing to dispose of a body. Wouldn't someone planning to kill her used a better plan such as luring her to someplace remote? A hitman (with no connection to HP or the building) would also have no reason to dispose of the body and risk getting caught and/or leaving identifying evidence on her body. To me, the location speaks to an impulse crime or crime of passion.
 
  • #443
All I’m saying is, there are 46 million reasons why someone or someone’s would want this woman to “disappear”. Lot of big league suspects in this case.
Edited to add: The entire “dropping muffins off to a sick employee” was staged.
Also, why was Heidi so “scared”?
An “accidental overdose” does not pass the smell test.
Where has it been said that the muffin drop was for her being sick? I definitely agree there are many reasons at this point why someone/people would want her gone but I think it is also very possible for her to have ODd on a drug we know she takes that either she had no clue was laced or did and had never had a bad reaction before.

"According to DEA testing, the pills are more lethal and easier to find than ever. Four out of every 10 fentanyl-laced pills could contain a deadly dose." This is a terrifying statistic that 40% of these laced pills could have enough to kill someone, especially someone that was rather petite like herself.

I think she very well could have been scared about work stuff and has been for a while now seeing her name on a lot of documents but I also find it very plausible that this was going on in her life at and this particular OD was not directly related. These ODs in fentanyl-related/laced deaths seem to be quite on the rise in the LA area unfortunately.

"In 2020, Los Angeles County had a significant increase in opioid deaths. 1,173 deaths involved fentanyl. As of May 2021, there were 567 deaths in Los Angeles County related to fentanyl overdoses, which is an approximate increase of 57%, from the 395 fentanyl related deaths in the first five months of 2020."Home | DEA.gov
 
  • #444
I agree with you. But this also seems like a very unlikely place for a planned murder. So many people, cameras everywhere, needing to dispose of a body. Wouldn't someone planning to kill her used a better plan such as luring her to someplace remote? A hitman (with no connection to HP or the building) would also have no reason to dispose of the body and risk getting caught and/or leaving identifying evidence on her body. To me, the location speaks to an impulse crime or crime of passion.
What if she went to confront someone & it turned ugly?
Maybe it wasn’t “planned” for that time, but they needed to act, shut her up, etc.
The entire case is sketch as hell.
 
  • #445
Where has it been said that the muffin drop was for her being sick? I definitely agree there are many reasons at this point why someone/people would want her gone but I think it is also very possible for her to have ODd on a drug we know she takes that either she had no clue was laced or did and had never had a bad reaction before.

"According to DEA testing, the pills are more lethal and easier to find than ever. Four out of every 10 fentanyl-laced pills could contain a deadly dose." This is a terrifying statistic that 40% of these laced pills could have enough to kill someone, especially someone that was rather petite like herself.

I think she very well could have been scared about work stuff and has been for a while now seeing her name on a lot of documents but I also find it very plausible that this was going on in her life at and this particular OD was not directly related. These ODs in fentanyl-related/laced deaths seem to be quite on the rise in the LA area unfortunately.

"In 2020, Los Angeles County had a significant increase in opioid deaths. 1,173 deaths involved fentanyl. As of May 2021, there were 567 deaths in Los Angeles County related to fentanyl overdoses, which is an approximate increase of 57%, from the 395 fentanyl related deaths in the first five months of 2020."Home | DEA.gov

I’m assuming the boss was trying to look like the concerned employer ie: Dropping off muffins to a “sick” employee who hasn’t been to work in a couple of days.
How else would he explain his dropping them by? Not even waiting for her to open the door. Not even waiting any period of time to see if she got them?
As for the drug angle, it’s again, speculation. Heidi is not here to give “her side” of the story. It’s quite possible she gotten clean for her son. It’s also quite possible someone involved saw the release of the court documents and seized on an alibi/scenario.
 
  • #446
That is a sticking point for me. We know from the video released that she was seen walking Seven around 6:20 pm, and we have been told that the dog was found roaming the halls of the 28/29th floor around 7 pm, which implies that whatever happened to Heidi occurred between those times. But where has anyone offered proof of how and when Seven was found? They haven't. It is entirely possible that Heidi was visiting someone there and became separated from the dog later in the evening, 9ish? 10ish maybe? That greatly widens the time that something may have happened to her. I doubt a big party would be in full swing at 6 or 7 pm, but it may be by 9 or 10. and I also do not believe Heidi's intent when going to H+F was to attend a party. If she was there, I believe she intended to be there only briefly, with someone, or looking for someone. JMO
i feel like its possible she went to the party after the sighting, leaving her dog w the sitter. maybe the sitters dont want to be involved so they SAID they found the dog wandering. meanwhile whatever happened to her was much later.
 
  • #447
I don't think Heidi was really dressed for a party....she was just wearing what I would term "general Sunday casual wear" in the last camera footage....no doubt the same attire she wore to watch her son's football match.
day parties are casual.
 
  • #448
  • #449
I get the feeling these folks aren't day parties kinda people.

I agree. As I have previously said, I do not believe it was Heidi's intent to go to a party, but merely to meet up with someone who happened to be there. However, as another poster suggested, if Heidi did have another bf that lived at that building, she may have kept clothes there, especially if she did sometimes attend parties at H+F. She surely wouldn't have shown up at her son's football game, dressed for a party. JMO
 
  • #450
I agree. As I have previously said, I do not believe it was Heidi's intent to go to a party, but merely to meet up with someone who happened to be there. However, as another poster suggested, if Heidi did have another bf that lived at that building, she may have kept clothes there, especially if she did sometimes attend parties at H+F. She surely wouldn't have shown up at her son's football game, dressed for a party. JMO
Purely a guess, I speculate that anything HP had to do with the party was not as a guest, but of a business nature. It's unclear if whatever happened there (if anything did) was accidental or foul play.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #451
I get the feeling these folks aren't day parties kinda people.
they might be. i have gone to day parties at actual clubs and most ppl were wearing jeans t shirts and flip flops.
 
  • #452
I agree. As I have previously said, I do not believe it was Heidi's intent to go to a party, but merely to meet up with someone who happened to be there. However, as another poster suggested, if Heidi did have another bf that lived at that building, she may have kept clothes there, especially if she did sometimes attend parties at H+F. She surely wouldn't have shown up at her son's football game, dressed for a party. JMO
i agree her plans may not have been to go there, but i still maintain that most ppl at day parties arent dolled up in their faja, mini dress and heels.
 
  • #453
i agree her plans may not have been to go there, but i still maintain that most ppl at day parties arent dolled up in their faja, mini dress and heels.
Lol. Had to look up faja. : )
 
  • #454
Did the tenants who hosted the party vacate the penthouse after HPs disappearance or did their lease coincidentally end at the same time? MOO
 
  • #455
Did the tenants who hosted the party vacate the penthouse after HPs disappearance or did their lease coincidentally end at the same time? MOO
*Excellent* question....
 
  • #456
Did the tenants who hosted the party vacate the penthouse after HPs disappearance or did their lease coincidentally end at the same time? MOO
It sure looks overly coincidental to me.
 
  • #457
Did the tenants who hosted the party vacate the penthouse after HPs disappearance or did their lease coincidentally end at the same time? MOO

Good question. Of course, there is another possibility. The tenants threw the party because they were moving out...a last chance to party in the penthouse.
JMO
 
  • #458
  • #459
When I say “I think she was paid to come forward with a story” I don’t mean media paid her. ;)
*edited to add
I also think there is a reason this was taken to The Sun. I think the Daily Mail would do a little more investigation- which the person releasing this (I think) fabrication, would not want.

Oh, this is a very astute observation. The Daily Mail would probably insist on pics and videos and then go looking for other witnesses etc. They do long form, not short form. The Sun doesn’t. Thanks for bringing this up.
 
  • #460
All I’m saying is, there are 46 million reasons why someone or someone’s would want this woman to “disappear”. Lot of big league suspects in this case.
Edited to add: The entire “dropping muffins off to a sick employee” was staged.
Also, why was Heidi so “scared”?
An “accidental overdose” does not pass the smell test.

Yep. I can’t shake the feeling that two very different and bizarre worlds might be colliding here. One of shady finance and another of B list celebrity drama and vendettas. How and why they’re colliding remains to be seen. It could be something organised or it could simply be coincidence - that a spinner of stories decided to try and use the situation, and the involvement of that building, to their advantage in some bizarre way.

I suspect the real answers lie in the finance side of things and not the celeb nonsense though.
 

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