Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

[Curiosa20]

Crypto is a negotiable currency and in itself an investment snd kind of a form of ganbling- like the stock market, bonds, etc.. You can exchange it for cash but its value fluctuates so..
It really got started years ago on the Dark Web for all kinds of nefarious purposes but is in fairly wide spread use now.
I saw an ad for a vintage sideboard on Craigslist last week that accepts it as payment.

 

[Kimkimba]

My brain is refusing to process this. I’m hoping we get more information for this to all tie together.

 

[CluelessWonder]

It seems that only evidence from Heidi's body can provide enough evidence to determine whether any story told by an eyewitness can be deemed true or false. It's easy to twist the facts just enough to turn a murder into something else. It sounds like these people had multiple days to get their stories matched up. Let's hope they didn't see the need.

 

[Shamrock1]

Has LE said they believe she is deceased based on blood in the building? I’m far behind but I haven’t seen that. There are several reasons to suspect someone died other than blood. (Pictures/videos of an obviously dead body, messages referencing the death or body, brain matter, witnesses, etc). JMO.

 

[SteveP]

Has LE said they believe she is deceased based on blood in the building? I’m far behind but I haven’t seen that. There are several reasons to suspect someone died other than blood. (Pictures/videos of an obviously dead body, messages referencing the death or body, brain matter, witnesses, etc). JMO.

No, it has only been stated that forensic evidence found inside the building has led them to believe Heidi is deceased. The fact that they are searching the landfill leads me to believe the evidence found probably includes blood/tissue found in the trash chute, but that is just my guess.

 

[genuineusa77]

Her poor mother! She said she was a wreck wondering where she was and now this. We've all read about fentanyl being put into heroin, but into adderall!! How in the world do they do that and who would ever expect this! Scary!!!!

 

[SteveP]

Her poor mother! She said she was a wreck wondering where she was and now this. We've all read about fentanyl being put into heroin, but into adderall!! How in the world do they do that and who would ever expect this! Scary!!!!

One Pill Can Kill (dea.gov)

 

[Cloudydiamond]

One Pill Can Kill (dea.gov)

One would have to think, if she's been taking Adderall since she was younger, she would be able to tell the difference.

 

[SteveP]

One would have to think, if she's been taking Adderall since she was younger, she would be able to tell the difference.

Yes, but if a party was going on, the room may have been darkened, like a club atmosphere, or she may have just taken the pill without examining it, especially if she had gotten them from the same person before. JMO

 

[Shamrock1]

Yes, but if a party was going on, the room may have been darkened, like a club atmosphere, or she may have just taken the pill without examining it, especially if she had gotten them from the same person before. JMO

Plus, Adderall is generic now. Several versions of amphetamine salts out there.

 

[Meligator]

I’m not buying this party story at all. But if someone were motivated to create a misdirection, it would be smart to seek out someone with a YouTube channel & focused on this case. I don’t know what motivation Maserati lady has (or if someone is paying her perhaps), but I’m guessing she hit Dawn on the head because Dawn started to leave before she (Maserati lady) had divulged all the “info” she needed to divulge. A desperate act to try and keep Dawn from leaving. I think a someone is working very hard to put out alternative theories. I doubt those party pictures are even from the H&F.

 

[moslym3]

I think we are making too much out of the word "party". It's pretty common when a dealer gets supply, the calls go out and people come over to buy and get high. This makes sense given that Heidi was acting nervous or distracted at the game -- maybe waiting for the call that it was time to come over for a fix.

When someone with drugs and money has a cool place to chill and hang out while high, that's what happens. People gather in the middle of the day to get high there. It's not a party like we imagine it with strobe lights and dancing. It's just people blitzed in the middle of the day hanging out. Think high-end crack house -- except it's a penthouse with pretty LA people.

 

[StarRemy8]

According to Heidi's ex, Heidi was addicted to Adderall and "would go to three different doctors so she could get three separate prescriptions, making sure she always paid for two of them in cash so her abuse wouldn't be discovered."

As a pharmacist I can assure you that pharmacists are supposed to check on the statewide database for controlled drugs before filling the prescriptions. Even if a person pays in cash, it still will show up on the database. Some people think paying cash will help them get away with it, but all that does is stop an alert from popping up from the insurance company denying the coverage due to the fill being too soon. When someone insists on paying with cash that is a huge glaring sign to check the database because we know how many people try to game the system. Perhaps the pharmacists were extremely careless and did not check her Adderall fill history on the statewide database-- not impossible if the pharmacists were in a busy retail setting, and with COVID vaccinations pharmacists are even more overworked than usual -- but more likely is that pharmacists DID catch her and flagged her account, precluding her from illegally getting multiple scripts. This would have pushed her to procure the drug illegally.


I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to lace Adderall with fentanyl here? That's just not true. Drug dealers lace Adderall with fentanyl here in the US so that their clients will get more addicted and buy more.

I don't doubt for a second that pharmacists are supposed to check databases but in my experience, I had been able to get multiple scripts from different doctors and then filled them by going to smaller places and only using my insurance for the one allotted monthly. By cash, it could simply mean it is very easy to go to a local pharmacy and give them a script and say you do not have insurance so you are paying it at cost type of thing which many people do so it would never pop up as being denied or prove to be a glaring sign. And at the same time, that is just what JW has said but if you read her statement back to that she says that is untrue and she has one doctor and only takes the amount she is prescribed. It's really just a toss up there who is telling the truth but I would find it odd that JW would even know that she does that, especially after they had been divorced for years when he made the statement as its typically not something you would tell anyone really, let alone your ex that you are trying to keep joint custody agreements with but without him showing actual proof she has done this I guess it really remains a he said/she said deal.

The comment I made about lacing I just meant it is different than other drugs like cocaine that is a powder and easy to lace with another powder to where you would not know what is actually in it but because it is illegal anyways you are always taking a risk. Because Adderall comes in a pill form the only way it could be laced is if you are buying it off the street/online where you are not actually getting the real drug. If you have a prescription and get it filled at a pharmacy you know what you are getting is legit but to get the drug from someone/somewhere else that isn't in prescription form you have no idea what you are taking which is very scary. I would think that if her bf/dealer was giving this to her and apparently had given it to other people in the building that perhaps they knew it was not an actual prescription. And if she had done that before and knew that it was laced and was fine it would be really sad to think that this one time it was too much. Or sadder to think that she really thought or was told it was the real prescription and didn't know anything else was in it so took it without hesitation.

 

[StarRemy8]

I think we are making too much out of the word "party". It's pretty common when a dealer gets supply, the calls go out and people come over to buy and get high. This makes sense given that Heidi was acting nervous or distracted at the game -- maybe waiting for the call that it was time to come over for a fix.

When someone with drugs and money has a cool place to chill and hang out while high, that's what happens. People gather in the middle of the day to get high there. It's not a party like we imagine it with strobe lights and dancing. It's just people blitzed in the middle of the day hanging out. Think high-end crack house -- except it's a penthouse with pretty LA people.

I agree that scenario seems much more plausible but I think the reason why people are making too much out of the word "party" is because that is literally all we know that has been reported.

“There was a huge party up on the 40th floor so she dropped her dog off with a dog sitter, apparently she had done the same before."

“So she was up at this really big party and they were gambling with cryptocurrency, there were a lot of drugs and strippers and they had brought a stripper pole up there and they had a DJ."

“I was told that she OD’d in the middle of the dance floor, fell down and broke a glass that she had in her hand."

Those quotes from the article definitely point to something larger than a gathering to just get high as it was described as "s huge, really big party with gambling, strippers, a DJ and a dance floor" - which I think is what people are going off of. But then at the same time, the only "proof" of a party like this seems to be from a video that Dawn would not share with The Sun but says that it was actually from 11:41AM which was not when Heidi was said to have been there, nor is there proof that the video was even necessarily from the H+F. It seems though that if this said party had six strippers and was a "nightclub style scene in a darkened room with blue lights" before noon on Sunday that it was already in full swing and a pretty wild party, especially since we know she did not show up there until hours later that afternoon - whole thing is bizarre.

 

[whitelilac]

I’m not buying this party story at all. But if someone were motivated to create a misdirection, it would be smart to seek out someone with a YouTube channel & focused on this case. I don’t know what motivation Maserati lady has (or if someone is paying her perhaps), but I’m guessing she hit Dawn on the head because Dawn started to leave before she (Maserati lady) had divulged all the “info” she needed to divulge. A desperate act to try and keep Dawn from leaving. I think a someone is working very hard to put out alternative theories. I doubt those party pictures are even from the H&F.

I am having misgivings as well. If the OD story is true, why on earth would this Maserati woman tell a couple of people what happened that evening. What was her motive, especially since I believe she herself was there.

LE has stated, at least through JW, that they are looking for 1 to 5 people who know what happened. I doubt there were 1 to 5 people at that event. What about all the other participants at the gathering, including the several strippers? If Heidi overdosed and fell in the middle of the dance floor, wouldn't you think the others there would have noticed if someone had a crisis and died right there? Wouldn't you think that the participants would gather around and freak out on what happened and what to do? People are going to question "what happened" and talk about it. So imo, the 1 to 5 people seems off to me.

 

[cvaldez1975]

While it seems this is a very bizarre story, and we don't know if it's true, or if even parts are true. But I believe we have to be honest with ourselves. We honestly have no idea of what was really going on in Heidi's world. It seems that she had been taking adderall for years for her ADHD. So it would be fair to assume she had a prescription for it. So why would she need to get it from a "dealer"? If this is true, then is it possible that she had become addicted to it? There are a lot of fully functioning people out there who have their own demons, so while the popular opinion is that Heidi was this wonderful person and a wonderful mother to her son, she could still be both of these, but still have a her own dark side. So while the story is bizarre, it is not out of the realm of possibility. MOO

its a triplicate script. a controlled substance. the doc only rx what you need, if she needed more than she could not get it legally.

 

[raja]

IMHO I think Maserati Lady knew the police already know the story and are not telling the public. I think she may have wanted to get a little publicity by leaking the story to the public herself. She uses a ruse of saying she needed help with her car to get the Podcast gal over. JMHO

 

[Gobstopper]

I'm wondering if Heidi’s friend already knew what happened when she brought Podcaster to H+F, especially if Maserati woman and HP friend had met at the vigil. MOO

 

[cvaldez1975]

I think we are making too much out of the word "party". It's pretty common when a dealer gets supply, the calls go out and people come over to buy and get high. This makes sense given that Heidi was acting nervous or distracted at the game -- maybe waiting for the call that it was time to come over for a fix.

When someone with drugs and money has a cool place to chill and hang out while high, that's what happens. People gather in the middle of the day to get high there. It's not a party like we imagine it with strobe lights and dancing. It's just people blitzed in the middle of the day hanging out. Think high-end crack house -- except it's a penthouse with pretty LA people.

yes, also day parties are a thing, especially on sundays when most ppl work the next day. they are usually casual.

 

[DeDee]

This case is teaching me so much about life in the fast lane. I love driving my convertible ... fast but I'm never under the influence when doing it. I get high on life but I get down on life, naturally.

I am so sorry if our victim had a true addiction to a controlled substance. If the story of her friend picking her up from this same apartment complex in the past is true, and I am prone to believe, now, that it may be, then HP should have sought professional help instead of seeking a party with strippers, etal.

I am a victim's advocate though so I want to believe that whatever happened to Heidi was beyond her own control. I truly thought perhaps she was kidnapped in the alley and kept prisoner for a while. Until LEO tells me differently, I will believe Heidi didn't have any control over what happened after she walked Seven in the alleyway.
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JMHOO