Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

  • #361
Just ask the pharmacist at CVS or Walgreens or any pharmacy, really. No prescription is required, though you will have to pay.

There are places in the local community you can get it for free. Your local health department can help with that.
Narcan is also covered by most insurance including Medicaid and Medicare.
 
  • #362
It really aggravates me that the MSM doesn't post more of that divorce filing to clear up these issues.

yes it’s very frustrating and makes it hard to have a conversation here
 
  • #363
It really aggravates me that the MSM doesn't post more of that divorce filing to clear up these issues.
I don't see how MSM splashing the divorce filings across the internet would in any way help the investigation. LE has access to all that information. The minor child should not be subjected to the entire world knowing his private business merely to satisfy the curiosity of the public. imo
 
  • #364
I've never needed it either, thankfully. I've never used street drugs and no one in my circles did either. It wasn't until one of my daughter's high school friends OD'd on pressed Xanax laced with fentanyl that I did the deep dive into that whole scene. I was pretty certain my daughter was not using, but no parent of a teenager can know for absolute certain. Since my house was the local teen hangout at the time, I thought it wise to have narcan on hand. It could have saved her friend if someone, anyone, was prepared and had some on hand. jmo
I just wanted to say this is AMAZING and thank you. It could absolutely save someone. I’m probably going to keep off the boards for a bit (or forever ha) after this post. But it is so so so true that we NEVER ever know what someone is going through or doing or using. So many parents, friends, and family say that their loved one would never do xyz. But people do, all the time. Even if they look really put together on the outside, get straight As, excel in a demanding career, etc. It is so important to look out for eachother.
 
  • #365
I don't see how MSM splashing the divorce filings across the internet would in any way help the investigation. LE has access to all that information. The minor child should not be subjected to the entire world knowing his private business merely to satisfy the curiosity of the public. imo

It definitely won't, but it would open some eyes here.
 
  • #366
I’m really surprised that the consensus here seems to be to believe Maserati lady/YouTuber and heidis ex husbands allegations while they were going through divorce and take it as gospel. Most of the things being discussed as cold hard facts are actually just rumors.
I am willing to entertain the idea that the Maserati lady said what the YTers said she said. But the mere fact that Maserati lady said what she said does not make it true. It's entirely possible that her statements were a conglomerate of every rumor she ever heard about the case and she has no personal knowledge at all.

But if there is even an outside chance what she said is true, it requires an LE investigation at the least. jmo
 
  • #367
If LE do not believe foul play was involved, would the elite Robbery and Homicide Division still be handling her case, and would they really have several investigators rummaging through a landfill for two weeks to try to recover a body that just mysteriously wound up there?
 
  • #368
It’s easy and sometimes comforting to over simplify and rationalizing presents it own challenges.
However, LE does not have this case solved or they would have advised the public since it is rather high profile and there is a little boy approaching Holidays heartbroken and with no closure.
The statement put out by Robbery & Homicide establishes that the investigation is ongoing.
An incident is term used to refer to LE engagement whether or not a crime is determined to have occurred.
LE does not search landfills out of consideration or kindness. They are searching for minute remains and evidence.
RHD’s only public statement on 11/29 asks for help and information from people
In or around 1201 S Hope on 10/17, as did JW.
RHD had no suspect information because they were then, and apparently are still now, trying to figure everything out. Otherwise they would have said: XYZ happened, investigation closed.
Which is why I believe so many are still searching for leads.
Let’s take a look again:
Robbery-Homicide Division Missing Woman Investigation NR21336bb - LAPD Online
 
  • #369
I don't see how MSM splashing the divorce filings across the internet would in any way help the investigation. LE has access to all that information. The minor child should not be subjected to the entire world knowing his private business merely to satisfy the curiosity of the public. imo

My issue is that they had no problem splashing JWs court filings (aka accusations) which made Heidi look bad and unstable, when there really is more to the story. Jmo
 
  • #370
I don't see how MSM splashing the divorce filings across the internet would in any way help the investigation. LE has access to all that information. The minor child should not be subjected to the entire world knowing his private business merely to satisfy the curiosity of the public. imo

I don't think the divorce info should've ever been released, the only thing it did is make Heidi look bad and didn't give her side of the story, it did nothing for this investigation. I hope her son never has to see that stuff, he's been through enough.
 
  • #371
I don't see how MSM splashing the divorce filings across the internet would in any way help the investigation. LE has access to all that information. The minor child should not be subjected to the entire world knowing his private business merely to satisfy the curiosity of the public. imo

I totally agree publishing divorce stuff won't help LE's investigation. But I do wish "Heidi's side" had been published since JW's was in the DM. (And JW's was pretty inflammatory IMO.) I'd have been fine with neither being published. But I'm not ok with only one side being published. And as a general rule, I don't see how that one-sided approach would help a minor child. Because there definitely are "sides" in many divorces, and from everything we know, that includes this one.
JMO
 
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  • #372
It definitely won't, but it would open some eyes here.
I'm sure at this point most of us have seen the docs, either in private convo or other places. But it doesn't need to be plastered all over MSM for the child to stumble across. Or be teased and bullied about it at school because all the other kids know every contentious detail of his parents divorce.

It's bad enough that his mother is likely dead. He doesn't need all the screaming MSM headlines on top of it. And The Sun and the YTers should be (but won't) be ashamed of publishing these latest sordid, unverified tales.

I'm not going off on you personally, Gardenista; I am just passionate about protecting children of these situations. imo
 
  • #373
If the fentanyl story is true, it’s too late for HP but besides narcan, fentanyl testing strips are available free through many health clinics, including LA County, and they also sell them on Amazon.
Over 88,000 people died from non prescribed fentanyl Aug 2019-Aug 2020.

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) announced today that federal funding may now be used to purchase rapid fentanyl test strips (FTS) in an effort to help curb the dramatic spike in drug overdose deaths largely driven by the use of strong synthetic opioids, including illicitly manufactured fentanyl.

FTS can be used to determine if drugs have been mixed or cut with fentanyl, providing people who use drugs and communities with important information about fentanyl in the illicit drug supply so they can take steps to reduce their risk of overdose.
 
  • #374
I understand you disagree. That’s fair. I’m just taking what I see and my own life experience, coupled with LE’s statement that they believe an “incident” led to her death. That was the time to say they suspect foul play. I don’t think they do.
How can they not suspect "foul" play if they are searching a trash/ landfill for her body ??

I am NOT questioning YOU, yourself, Ducky--
but I am questioning LE and the fact that LE has not stated it yet--YIKES... maybe they don't want to scare off a potential suspect(s) as they haven't named any yet either.

We don't know if the garbage chute tale is true but there again, if it is, that, IMO, involves foul play also and I tend to think LE believes this is what happened or they would not be looking through the trash/landfill for her body.

Accidental OD== possibly and not necessarily foul play as to COD but shoving a dead person's body down a garbage chute IMO is foul play.

I am just trying to catch up in here and saw that LE is saying this is a "Robbery-Homicide" case now.--(which would be Foul Play )

I have not read anything yet on the "robbery" aspect of the case as I am still reading through the latest news articles and trying to catch up.
 
  • #375
A PSA for a One Pill Can Kill campaign would be great!
Maybe we should contact our elected officials.
 
  • #376
I totally agree publishing divorce stuff won't help LE's investigation. But I do wish "Heidi's side" had been published since JW's was in the DM. (And JW's was pretty inflammatory IMO.) I'd have been fine with neither being published. But I'm not ok with only one side being published. And as a general rule, I don't see how that one-sided approach would help a minor child. Because there definitely are "sides" in many divorces, and from everything we know, that includes this one.
JMO
I know. I'm not happy about any of it being published. But I'm not sure the further publishing of things that should not be published is the answer either. But what's done is done. JW said what he said. The Sun published what they published. They can't take that back.

I understand the tit for tat. The press published JW's filings. Therefore, it's only fair they publish Heidi's filings as well. I get it. I get the desire for "fairness". But does the publishing of even more details help the child in any way? Or does it just expose him to more vulnerability?

It's certainly a mess at this point for sure. jmo
 
  • #377
We are assuming they didn’t try narcan but it’s quite possible they did and it didn’t work. At that point they may have thought “making it go away” was better than drawing negative media attention to their companies and wanted to protect their image/money more than risk anything getting out.

The LLC registered to the PH is described as a tech prodigy and entrepreneur with a promising future that had all sorts of business ventures from creating apps to cannabis ice cream etc if you google his name. These companies need investors and investors need to feel comfortable with a CEO and how they handle money before handing over theirs. A CEO having an alleged nightclub style party on a Sunday with strippers, gambling and a DJ where a mom with ties to powerful people dies of an OD in their rented business space could prove quite the opposite.

Not to mention who knows who else was at the party but Ms Maserati sounds like a questionable character herself with violent tendencies and could have ran around with a similar crew. Take these combinations of people and then add alcohol and drugs to the mix and something like this happening does not seem too far off.
 
  • #378
I know. I'm not happy about any of it being published. But I'm not sure the further publishing of things that should not be published is the answer either. But what's done is done. JW said what he said. The Sun published what they published. They can't take that back.

I understand the tit for tat. The press published JW's filings. Therefore, it's only fair they publish Heidi's filings as well. I get it. I get the desire for "fairness". But does the publishing of even more details help the child in any way? Or does it just expose him to more vulnerability?

It's certainly a mess at this point for sure. jmo

I don't know what additional difficulties, if any, would be posed for BW by having HP's response to JW published. Partly I can't know because I don't know what Heidi's filings said. (A couple of posts have seemed to suggest those filings are available but I've not seen them.) But just on the face of things, I don't think a minor child, in general, is helped by seeing only one side of the official filings in a contentious divorce/custody fight. And I do think the cure for the negative effects on BW might be ensuring his dead mother's voice is heard or at least preserved in a way he can access it. But I definitely agree, it's a mess.
JMO
 
  • #379
Good points. Unless there are other witnesses who saw the dog wandering the hallways, the timeline is open. JMO, it's still most likely she dropped off the dog sometime close to the time she was spotted on the security camera. If the dog sitter let the dog out of the apartment to wander at 7 pm, that might be close to the time when they discovered Heidi was deceased.

Either way, LE probably knows what happened by now.

I thought there were some screenshots of the son's cell phone that showed that she texted him to see how game went. I was thinking last night about this and the time stamping on the texts. I just haven't had time to look yet. Anyone know offhand?
 
  • #380
I don't know what additional difficulties, if any, would be posed for BW by having HP's response to JW published. Partly I can't know because I don't know what Heidi's filings said. (A couple of posts have seemed to suggest those filings are available but I've not seen them.) But just on the face of things, I don't think a minor child, in general, is helped by seeing only one side of the official filings in a contentious divorce/custody fight. And I do think the cure for the negative effects on BW might be ensuring his dead mother's voice is heard or at least preserved in a way he can access it. But I definitely agree, it's a mess.
JMO
There are hundreds of pages of filings, and none of it is flattering to either side. Much of it is painfully intimate and nothing a schoolboy would want his friends to know. I'll just leave it at that. jmo
 

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