CA CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021

[EGirl]

But her husband was in the apartment only a couple days previously which is how he was able to know where the dog was because of messages left on the phone so I think it’s possible that it’s coincidental to the federal fraud investigation

The husband was in which apt?

 

[SteveP]

I think LE has information, they are just keeping it quiet. There's not a chance in hades they haven't been to Hope+Flowers with a warrant. Wish we knew what they found there.

I agree. I think it is highly likely that her vehicle is in police custody at an impound lot somewhere, and has already been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, and if I were a betting man, I would bet it was found at Hope+Flowers.

People are bothered by the seeming resistance of apartment management to voluntarily assist LE. Heck, I am up in arms about it too, but the building is right in the middle of downtown LA. Does anyone really believe there aren't cameras on every street corner around, which surely would have caught the RR if it showed up around there, and God knows how many Ring doorbell cameras within that building that they could ask residents to check. There is only about a three hour window that needs to be looked at. LE almost always knows far more than they make known to the public, and I believe that is true in this case as well. JMO

 

[Curiousobserver]

The husband was in which apt?

Husband called police who did a welfare check where they found her phone and laptop. The husband read the last texts from the people who found the dog and was then altered to where it was and when.

Mystery surrounds disappearance of Los Angeles mother after leaving son’s football game last month

 

[fred&edna]

I don't know her son's age but I wonder if he's been able to determine if some of her clothes, shoes, toiletries, etc are missing. He probably wouldn't know a great deal of what's in her closet but likely knew her favorite t-shirt or something she often wore. Although we don't even know if she returned home after leaving the game. If she didn't return home and things are missing then leaving was pre-planned. imo

 

[distracted]

I don't know her son's age but I wonder if he's been able to determine if some of her clothes, shoes, toiletries, etc are missing. He probably wouldn't know a great deal of what's in her closet but likely knew her favorite t-shirt or something she often wore. Although we don't even know if she returned home after leaving the game. If she didn't return home and things are missing then leaving was pre-planned. imo

Per this article, his birthday is this week and he'll turn 11.



California mom, 39, vanishes and her dog is found wandering alone on the 28th floor of a high rise | Daily Mail Online

 

[JudgeJoe]

I don't know her son's age but I wonder if he's been able to determine if some of her clothes, shoes, toiletries, etc are missing. He probably wouldn't know a great deal of what's in her closet but likely knew her favorite t-shirt or something she often wore. Although we don't even know if she returned home after leaving the game.

LE knows if she went back. Camera that captured her leaving for the FB game would have also captured a return.

Her son turns 11 this week. Dad said he wanted to talk to her “one last time”. Link in article upthread. That’s a brutal gut instinct for a child to face. Imo, they think she’s no longer alive.

I tend to agree. If she were about to enter WPP, she’d have left the dog with her son so she knew it’d be safe. Unless the couple on the 28th floor are part of the disappearing plan. All conjecture. Gonna be some twists & turns on this one… imo

 

[Curiousobserver]

House was undisturbed and her phone and laptops were left behind-

"Jim told Dateline that on October 20 he filed a missing persons report with the LAPD and detectives performed a wellness check at her home.

“The home was in pristine condition,” he said. “But her phone and laptops were left behind."

Jim said one of the texts received on Heidi’s phone was from a woman who had found Heidi’s dog, who was chipped, and tried to contact Heidi.


Jim said this is how he discovered that Heidi’s dog was found about three hours after she was last seen, on the 28th story of an apartment building in Downtown Los Angeles."

Mystery surrounds disappearance of Los Angeles mother after leaving son’s football game last month

 

[Curiousobserver]

LE knows if she went back. Camera that captured her leaving for the FB game would have also captured a return.

Her son turns 11 this week. Dad said he wanted to talk to her “one last time”. Link in article upthread. That’s a brutal gut instinct for a child to face. Imo, they think she’s no longer alive.

I tend to agree. If she were about to enter WPP, she’d have left the dog with her son so she knew it’d be safe. Unless the couple on the 28th floor are part of the disappearing plan. All conjecture. Gonna be some twists & turns on this one… imo

Exactly- LE has her phone, the ex-husband apparently can access it. LE has her laptops and access to her security footage.

LE knows if she went back to the house and when. They know who she has been emailing and texting. They know how the dog got on the 28th floor. They know if her car crossed the border.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The 39-year-old was last seen on October 17 at the match.


Timeline shows missing mom Heidi Planck's final movements


Suzanne Smeader, Heidi Planck’s mother, told DailyMail.com it was unusual for Heidi to disappear without any explanation.

In her last conversation with her daughter, Smeader said she got no indication that there was anything wrong. She said she was 'leaning toward her employment' as one possible link that could explain her disappearance.

‘It's bizarre, it's so unlike her...People don't just go missing like that, you know,’ she said from her home in Cheektowaga, New York, which is located some 10 miles east of Buffalo.

‘I just can't imagine. I just feel for her son and I just can't imagine what that poor little kid is going through being without his mom,’ Smeader said.
Heidi Planck's mother says her daughter was making plans to see her at Thanksgiving | Daily Mail Online

 

[Curiousobserver]

Why did police do a wellness check, find nothing, and then come back a few days later with their guns drawn expecting there to be someone there and some sort of potential danger?

Did they not know about the first check or did they learn something in between?

 

[Lusitana]

I don't know her son's age but I wonder if he's been able to determine if some of her clothes, shoes, toiletries, etc are missing. He probably wouldn't know a great deal of what's in her closet but likely knew her favorite t-shirt or something she often wore. Although we don't even know if she returned home after leaving the game. If she didn't return home and things are missing then leaving was pre-planned. imo

He's 10. I don't think he would notice something missing unless it was very obvious (tooth brush in the bathroom) or something that was his (toy, blanket).

 

[CharlestonGal]

Why did police do a wellness check, find nothing, and then come back a few days later with their guns drawn expecting there to be someone there and some sort of potential danger?

Did they not know about the first check or did they learn something in between?

Very odd. The visit by the ex-husband and LE on the 20th seems pretty casual. House was pristine, ex-husband scrolling through her phone and finding the texts from the people who found Heidi's dog. Pretty low-key from the sounds of it. What happened in those 9 days that caused LE and FBI to arrive en masse, guns drawn, on the 29th? moo

 

[Curiousobserver]

Very odd. The visit by the ex-husband and LE on the 20th seems pretty casual. House was pristine, ex-husband scrolling through her phone and finding the texts from the people who found Heidi's dog. Pretty low-key from the sounds of it. What happened in those 9 days that caused LE and FBI to arrive en masse, guns drawn, on the 29th? moo

With a search warrant... what was the probably cause on the warrant?

Being missing doesn't bring dozens of people to your house with guns.

 

[Satchie]

Why did police do a wellness check, find nothing, and then come back a few days later with their guns drawn expecting there to be someone there and some sort of potential danger?

Did they not know about the first check or did they learn something in between?

I think they just automatically do that every time they have to enter a home with a search warrant. I think it's just some rule, since there are a fair number of people who own guns and object to police entering their home to search and take things away. I don't think they wait to evaluate whether a situation should involve guns or not, they just always do it.

I posted a couple of links up thread where people in the home have experienced this, in other jurisdictions.

The wellness check is just a 'friendly' visit, the police officer can't remove anything.

 

[CharlestonGal]

With a search warrant... what was the probably cause on the warrant?

Being missing doesn't bring dozens of people to your house with guns.

I have searched high and low for the warrant or the probable cause for it. Nothing so far. jmo

 

[CharlestonGal]

Also interesting, if this was simply a raid by the FBI/SEC for securities irregularities, why would LAPD robbery homicide detectives have been present?

"Federal agents and robbery homicide detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department went into Planck’s home with guns drawn on Friday evening, as the hunt for the missing woman continues. Sources believe that officers were under the impression that they might have been walking into a crime scene."

Federal Agents Enter Home Of Missing Woman Heidi Planck With Guns Drawn

 

[Satchie]

People are bothered by the seeming resistance of apartment management to voluntarily assist LE. Heck, I am up in arms about it too, but the building is right in the middle of downtown LA. Does anyone really believe there aren't cameras on every street corner around, which surely would have caught the RR if it showed up around there, and God knows how many Ring doorbell cameras within that building that they could ask residents to check. There is only about a three hour window that needs to be looked at. LE almost always knows far more than they make known to the public, and I believe that is true in this case as well. JMO

Just like if you want a cellphone company to give you information about where her phone has pinged - they're going to say no, not without a warrant. It's their job to protect the property and the privacy of individuals, but if it becomes a legal requirement, as demonstrated by a proper warrant, then they will comply.

IMO, Heidi's friends wanted to be let in to search the buildings parking areas themselves, and security told them no. I think, for a high rent building, that's to be expected. People show up wanting to wander around, allegedly looking for their friend, it's a security department's job to say no. If they said 'yeah, sure' and a Lexus was stolen (or even just scratched), they'd lose their job.

 

[Warwick1991]

Why did police do a wellness check, find nothing, and then come back a few days later with their guns drawn expecting there to be someone there and some sort of potential danger?

Did they not know about the first check or did they learn something in between?

Since the FBI was involved, it is possible that they didn't communicate with local LE. That is frequently the case. It is possible that the FBI would not be aware of a police "wellness check" at her home, at least not for a day or 2.... Then, the dots would be connected and there would be the possibility of a homicide.

 

[Satchie]

Since the FBI was involved, it is possible that they didn't communicate with local LE. That is frequently the case. It is possible that the FBI would not be aware of a police "wellness check" at her home, at least not for a day or 2.... Then, the dots would be connected and there would be the possibility of a homicide.

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I don't agree. The FBI are very much involved in potential homicide cases of women. For example, they participated in the search for Suzanne Morphew within days of her going missing on May 10, 2020: "Investigators with the Chaffee County Sheriff's Office, CBI and FBI plan to return to the site to continue the search on Saturday, May 23, 2020." Investigators searching for missing mom Suzanne Morphew sift through dirt at her husband’s construction site

 

[distracted]

The 39-year-old was last seen on October 17 at the match.


Timeline shows missing mom Heidi Planck's final movements


Suzanne Smeader, Heidi Planck’s mother, told DailyMail.com it was unusual for Heidi to disappear without any explanation.

In her last conversation with her daughter, Smeader said she got no indication that there was anything wrong. She said she was 'leaning toward her employment' as one possible link that could explain her disappearance.

‘It's bizarre, it's so unlike her...People don't just go missing like that, you know,’ she said from her home in Cheektowaga, New York, which is located some 10 miles east of Buffalo.

‘I just can't imagine. I just feel for her son and I just can't imagine what that poor little kid is going through being without his mom,’ Smeader said.
Heidi Planck's mother says her daughter was making plans to see her at Thanksgiving | Daily Mail Online

I was searching to see if Heidi had a real estate license and I saw that this article had been updated and I read this -
"Smeader said her daughter completed a certification course in real estate and other business-related classes."

Is there any way to find out if she had a real estate license? I wonder if she was also working as an agent and met someone at the apartment building to show a unit.

Outside realtors list some of the units so I'd think that their agents - and perhaps other agents - could show the units just as they would for properties for sale. And I read on one of the company's websites that they do work with outside agents to make the experience more comfortable for the client but I can't remember where I read it exactly.

If something happened while she was meeting a client, that could explain why the property managers have been so hard to work with.