CA CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021

[Barry]

IMO, the dog is a clue of sorts. It showed up in a secure place, where it was pretty much a certainty it would be found, and end up back with people it knows. It brings up the question of who would have wanted to ensure that would happen. MOO.

 

[Ducky123]

And if the Yelp reviews are to be believed, there may be other reasons why they don't want to just voluntarily offer up their security cameras with no limit on time and date. There are complaints of damage to vehicles, unsafe living conditions, gun incidents, all before HP went missing.

HOPE + FLOWER - 144 Photos & 121 Reviews - Apartments - 1201 S Hope St, Los Angeles, CA - Phone Number

IMO people often leave negative reviews about their apartment buildings, very rarely good ones. This sounds like a pretty typical “nice” urban building to me. I’ve lived in a few big cities and things like missing packages, damaged cars, and dog poop in elevators is pretty run of the mill.

 

[moonriverfarm]

SURELY security cams will solve the mystery of how the dog got into the building and with whom.

 

[raja]

I suppose someone could have put the dog in a bag and brought it into the building so as to go unnoticed. Far fetched I know.

 

[bestill]

In the last video just posted in this thread, JW says that the dog had to get through 4 levels of security to get where found in building.

This answered one of my many questions. I am sure LE is focused on who lives in that building and any connection to her. Also interesting that her friend picked her up there in 2020.

 

[bestill]

FOUR levels of security? Are these very upmarket apartments that are inhabited by the rich and famous? That seems to be an awful lot of security for apartments, at least in my experience.
What is so special and top secret about these apartments for:

a) them to have that level of security
b) the management company to be so averse to cooperating with LE and handing over any CCTV etc

?

I am comparing it to a hotel and their security. Key/Card/Code to enter the parking garage, to enter the entry from the parking garage to the building, and to enter the elevator, what would be the fourth? Of course one to enter the apartment, so maybe it's actually 3 layers to get to the the hallway....

 

[Ducky123]

I am comparing it to a hotel and their security. Key/Card/Code to enter the parking garage, to enter the entry from the parking garage to the building, and to enter the elevator, what would be the fourth? Of course a one to enter the apartment, so maybe it's actually 3 layers to get to the the hallway....

There might be another swipe needed to get through a door in an elevator receptacle onto the floor itself. Or maybe he just meant the 4th would be getting into an apartment on the floor.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Then the dog entered the building with someone who lives there, with or without Heidi. MOO

Or stayed as an Air BNB guest. There were many complaints on Yelp and Apartments.com from residents that many units were rented under Air BNB and the complex had turned into a party house. moo

 

[Allabouttrial]

I live in the Hope and Flower Building in DTLA. I’ve been somewhat following this discussion and wanted to add a few things. One the parking garage needs a remote to get into it and all spaces are assigned. We pay $200 a month for parking and more if you want valet. Guests have to park in a public lot across the street for $20 a night. Two we have to keep a list of approved guests at the concierge’s desk and even then we have to come down to the lobby to escort our guests upstairs. Three nobody can get into the elevator and come upstairs unless they have a resident key fob to swipe for your particular floor. Four, my car got damaged in the garage so I asked for the footage from the surveillance cameras. I was told this request had to go through their legal department and to have my attorney or detective handling my case at LAPD contact their legal department. I spend 5k a month on a one bedroom and this place does everything in their power to make it difficult for everyone involved. If I order food, they don’t allow the delivery drivers to bring it to your door. We have to come down and get it from the concierges desk. Same thing with packages. They are supposed to accept them, log them and keep them at the concierges desk yet I’ve had countless packages go “missing” even after the delivery company has received a signature from a concierge. These were big value items. I don’t know ANYONE that is going to be resigning their lease. I don’t know much about this case but I can assure you she didn’t park in the garage, walk in, get in an elevator and get off at the 28th floor. It’s impossible for someone who doesn’t live here and have the garage opener, an assigned spot and a key fob for the 28th floor.

FYI for people who haven't seen this post from a resident of the apartments that Heidi's dog was found at. (best say alleged resident JIC!).

 

[NervousNellie]

I suppose someone could have put the dog in a bag and brought it into the building so as to go unnoticed. Far fetched I know.

True, but apparently (from a previous poster who lives in H+F) residents can only access floors where they live. That certainly narrows down who left the dog on the 28th floor, IMO. So, even if they hid the dog on the way in, access to the floor is limited.

 

[bestill]

FYI for people who haven't seen this post from a resident of the apartments that Heidi's dog was found at. (best say alleged resident JIC!).

I had not seen that post, thanks! Seems extreme and inconvenient. JMO

 

[distracted]

Besides the info about how many levels of security the dog would have to pass through to get into the building, one of her friends also stated that she picked Heidi up from that building once but didn't know why Heidi was there.

So that's confirmation that she had at least been there once before.

Friends search for California woman missing for 2 weeks

 

[CharlestonGal]

True, but apparently (from a previous poster who lives in H+F) residents can only access floors where they live. That certainly narrows down who left the dog on the 28th floor, IMO. So, even if they hid the dog on the way in, access to the floor is limited.

I wonder if LE has done a run down of everyone renting an Airbnb unit on the 28th floor during that time frame. Someone knows how that dog got to the 28th floor.

Unless, of course, reporting is still haphazard and the finders simply live on the 28th floor and brought the dog in from outside themselves. Which is entirely possible, imo.

 

[SteveP]

Besides the info about how many levels of security the dog would have to pass through to get into the building, one of her friends also stated that she picked Heidi up from that building once but didn't know why Heidi was there.

So that's confirmation that she had at least been there once before.

Friends search for California woman missing for 2 weeks

The ex seemed to know of no connection between Heidi and H+F. It may be interesting to know what the circumstances were around the friend supposedly picking her up there once, specifically time of day or night she picked her up; daytime on a weekday, when she may have been having a business meeting with someone: evening when she may have been at a business meeting, dinner, or party; first thing in the morning, when she may have spent the night there. That may solidify thoughts that she had a personal reason for being there, which may, or may not mean anything in her disappearance

 

[Knox]

This is a must-see video.

A friend says they picked up Heidi at the Hope+Flower building in 2020? This is new information, was it one of the two friends in that video? That leads me to ask - where does the bf stay when in LA?

 

[Kapua]

One conclusion that I draw from where the dog was found is that *someone* wanted to ensure that he was cared for and/or returned to the family, rather than left wandering outside to potentially be hit by a car. Was that HP herself, or ???

 

[CharlestonGal]

The ex seemed to know of no connection between Heidi and H+F. It may be interesting to know what the circumstances were around the friend supposedly picking her up there once, specifically time of day or night she picked her up; daytime on a weekday, when she may have been having a business meeting with someone: evening when she may have been at a business meeting, dinner, or party; first thing in the morning, when she may have spent the night there. That may solidify thoughts that she had a personal reason for being there, which may, or may not mean anything in her disappearance

I wonder if one of the LLC's she or JS is connected with have leased one or more corporate apartments at H&F? For out of town business partners to stay while in LA, perhaps? jmo

ETA: If they did, they may have extended the courtesy to Heidi's boyfriend to stay there on occasion when he was in town?

 

[slowpoke]

I think people are getting hung up on the microchip. He didn't say that he located the couple that were caring for the dog via the microchip company nor did they say that is how they obtained her phone number.

"Jim said one of the texts received on Heidi’s phone was from a woman who had found Heidi’s dog, who was chipped, and tried to contact Heidi."
(from Dateline NBC site)

Los Angeles is thankfully very strict with dog licensing: Dog license tags shall be affixed to a collar or harness, and must be worn by the dog at all times when off the guardian premises.

And a lot of people get tags made with the pet's name and contact number - I do.

JW did say he found the people with the dog through the microchip company, according to this article, or am I misunderstanding you:

"He was found wandering around a luxury apartment complex downtown Los Angeles," Wayne told Fox News Digital. Residents of the apartment complex found and cared for the dog until Wayne contacted the microchip company and tracked down its location, as The Daily Mail first reported. Missing California woman's ex-husband suspects foul play: 'Something's dirty here' | Fox News

 

[?!?]

I wonder if LE has done a run down of everyone renting an Airbnb unit on the 28th floor during that time frame. Someone knows how that dog got to the 28th floor.

Unless, of course, reporting is still haphazard and the finders simply live on the 28th floor and brought the dog in from outside themselves. Which is entirely possible, imo.

But if they're the same as she visited in 2020, proby not airB&B....

 

[Kittybunny]

SURELY security cams will solve the mystery of how the dog got into the building and with whom.

I really really hope that footage is still available, and the building didn't "accidentally" erase it, if they believe something bad happened there.