Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #6

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  • #581
There are lots of cases that aren't prosecuted due to insufficient evidence. Sometimes many years later, a suspect turns out to be clearly guilty.

If she was dead before she went into the water, that'll be a pretty clear indication of foul play. If it was drowning, we may never know.
Rbbm while I believe this was a very tragic accident, and Kiely accidentally ended up in the water, if she was dead before she hit the water that does not have to be foul play. While not likely imo, or common imo, it certainly is possible to have a medical event causing death while driving and the car continue on. Does not have to be an elderly person or individuals with diagnosed conditions. I have read, infrequently, about seemingly healthy young people collapsing and dying.
 
  • #582
Perhaps the taped-off section on the beach could be evidence of other vehicles? or signs of her vehicle driving erratically

I'm not sure how they would be able to link anything to that night, but maybe they discovered something personal in nature? Maybe her phone?
Seems like that would have been water's edge if the water was 4-5 feet higher. I wondered if they found shards of glass from the window (speculation).
 
  • #583
Perhaps the taped-off section on the beach could be evidence of other vehicles? or signs of her vehicle driving erratically

I'm not sure how they would be able to link anything to that night, but maybe they discovered something personal in nature? Maybe her phone?
I don't know how valuable anything found two weeks later would be especially if the didn't have that area secured. However your theory of it being a personal item it a good one, or possibly a piece of evidence from the vehicle itself, something that ties directly back to KR or her car.
 
  • #584
So dreadful.

Since it's alleged that this type of party has been going on for generations, it seems that parents and LE who were all well acquainted with kids getting drunk and high and driving underage, and being out at night with large groups getting up to no good, were nonchalant about these parties, and LE clearly did not enforce the laws.

Imo
Yea obviously lots of laws were broken. This absolutely is not an "official" campsite. They do not even recommend cars drive on that road. And yes since according to my long-time local neighbors, kids have been partying at "the Sanctuary" for decades, it seems LE has turned a blind eye to enforcing anything there.
 
  • #585
I do not know. Very slowly and carefully would be my guess. It's not impassable it's just very difficult. It's not the flat smooth dirt/gravel road that I was envisioning. My main point in posting about it is to say how unlikely it is that vehicles were going at any speed out there - unless you didn't care about seriously damaging your car. I can imagine a few scenarios:

1. Super reckless people "racing" on the beach with no thought or care that they might wreck their car with no thought to what their parents would think or do?
2. Someone unfamiliar with the area not knowing that was the beach
3. Someone disposing of evidence
...or perhaps 4. Someone intoxicated and/or otherwise impaired, and possibly distracted.
 
  • #586
I'm still catching up here on about 7 more pages of posts from last night, but in case this hasn't been posted yet, do check out Bing maps and their aerial views. Clearer than Google Maps, and in this shot that I'm attaching here, that "shortcut" that some have mentioned may have been her targeted route is underwater frequently. It may not have been underwater a few weeks ago but I swore I read here several days ago that someone said that shortcut is *only* accessible/drivable in winter when things are frozen over. Does anyone recall that? Otherwise it seems likely that you'd get stuck.
 

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  • #587
I'm still catching up here on about 7 more pages of posts from last night, but in case this hasn't been posted yet, do check out Bing maps and their aerial views. Clearer than Google Maps, and in this shot that I'm attaching here, that "shortcut" that some have mentioned may have been her targeted route is underwater frequently. It may not have been underwater a few weeks ago but I swore I read here several days ago that someone said that shortcut is *only* accessible/drivable in winter when things are frozen over. Does anyone recall that? Otherwise it seems likely that you'd get stuck.
According to that map as, @Truckeeite has said, even with the water up where it would have been at the time, there is still a significant beach after the dirt road/trail ends.
 
  • #588
According to that map as, @Truckeeite has said, even with the water up where it would have been at the time, there is still a significant beach after the dirt road/trail ends.
Right, but how usable is that road during the year? As I mentioned, I swore I read that someone said you'd only chance it in winter.
 
  • #589
I have one question that keeps bugging me. If it is as treacherously difficult to get to the water at that spot as you say that your drive indicates, how on earth did that big rollback tow truck, at least two vehicles towing cargo trailers, a coroner's van, and no less than 20 other vehicles, which can all be seen on the video of the car being retrieved, all manage to get to that point at the water's edge without damaging their vehicles? JMO

Yup, I saw a bunch of them coming down the road no problem.
 
  • #590
Again, I have no idea what happened. I'm only saying the idea that she took a wrong turn to the lake, drove however many yards on what was obviously the beach and just "accidentally" landed herself in the water is not believable to me.

She wasn't found in the driver's seat. We have no idea whether she was in the driver's seat. We don't know if she was alive or dead going into the water. We don't know how the damage happened to the car.
I agree! All we have are tales brought to us by Sami, very little being supported by facts given by law enforcement. Remember LE has not confirmed anything. Did she even attend the party? We DO know she texted her mom and replied to Jagger, but was she the one that sent the text? The only other text was sent to Sami--or did someone else send that text to provide a timeline. Phone dead after this text near the lake. That is all we have.

Everything about this case is hearsay until LE gives us the Facts at a Press Conference.....We have heard no facts from them, just need for information.

Somehow AWP finding her car 30 minutes after getting to the ping site is a mystery as to HOW LE could have gone to that same ping site and NOT found the car in the days after Kiely went missing. Makes me wonder if the car was even in that water before AWP
got there. She may have died somewhere else and brought there after LE search.
Something seems off with this community IMO
 
  • #591
Regarding the map below, and presuming this was an accident:

If she took the green road in the photo, how would she have taken that sharp right turn to the path leading to the lake? It looks impossible to me without having to stop and do a three-point-turn.

The purple route also doesn't look likely as if she were driving on the foreshore of the lake, surely the lake would glisten and glint when it reflected her headlights. Plus the sandy mud would've felt different under her tyres.

So for me, the only likely route she took was the white route. Out of the parking, turn right and a straight run down into the lake.

MOO.
 

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  • #592
I think suicide is about the least likely, but not impossible. While I understand suicide is far from predictable in many cases, I think some proponents of the suicide or more common "she just drove drunk into the lake, use Occam's razor... duh!" theorists are overlooking that Kiely was rather unique. I'm not trying to make the deceased, pretty, young woman into an angel, although that's certainly not uncommon for people to do in general. She was 16, while her friends that went to party and most of those at party seem to have been 18 or older. She was home schooled, while most of those at party went to public high school together and/or already graduated. She graduated 2(?) years early and with honors. She played multiple musical instruments and was interested in medicine, science, cooking, etc. She had a good relationship with her family and people cared about her. I don't think this fits the suicide profile, nor the (previously considered before she was found) runaway profile. She was young, pretty, smart, talented, social and had everything to live for. She didn't seem to be the "drink and do shrooms every weekend" party type, although I could be totally wrong. She didn't even plan on going to that party until that day.
my sister graduated all AP classes, attended UC, studied abroad for a year, finished dental school in 3 years, and owned her onw practice by 30 and yessir she was at the bonfire parties in field dranking most weekends in high school, and shes 44. i have teens and young adults, they are worse than we were.
 
  • #593
Right, but how usable is that road during the year? As I mentioned, I swore I read that someone said you'd only chance it in winter.
Sorry, was typing between meetings and wasn't very clear. I meant to say even with the water up, there is still a significant amount of beach before reaching the shoreline in the area where she and her car were found. So, the transition from road/trail to beach to water should have been fairly noticeable as Truckeeite has mentioned.

ETA, hope that makes what I was trying to say more clear.
 
  • #594
I agree! All we have are tales brought to us by Sami, very little being supported by facts given by law enforcement. Remember LE has not confirmed anything. Did she even attend the party? We DO know she texted her mom and replied to Jagger, but was she the one that sent the text? The only other text was sent to Sami--or did someone else send that text to provide a timeline. Phone dead after this text near the lake. That is all we have.

Everything about this case is hearsay until LE gives us the Facts at a Press Conference.....We have heard no facts from them, just need for information.

Somehow AWP finding her car 30 minutes after getting to the ping site is a mystery as to HOW LE could have gone to that same ping site and NOT found the car in the days after Kiely went missing. Makes me wonder if the car was even in that water before AWP
got there. She may have died somewhere else and brought there after LE search.
Something seems off with this community IMO
It has been well documented and confirmed, by Placer County Sheriff's Dept, that yes, Kiley did attend the party.
 
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Somehow AWP finding her car 30 minutes after getting to the ping site is a mystery as to HOW LE could have gone to that same ping site and NOT found the car in the days after Kiely went missing. Makes me wonder if the car was even in that water before AWP
got there. She may have died somewhere else and brought there after LE search.

There were various search teams from different authorities, locals on foot, ATVs and vehicles around this whole area for 2 weeks before she was found. If anyone decided to dump her car in the lake, they'd have been seen!

AWP found the car because that's what they do! Many police search teams don't have the time, funds, ability, the equipment and the speciality that AWP has. They have sonar equipment....and the police divers were trying to find something in 14ft. of murky water with their eyes!
 
  • #596
Yup, I saw a bunch of them coming down the road no problem.
In that video? It shows the vehicles already on the beach area but I didn’t see a part on the video that showed a bunch driving down that off shot road or as they came onto the beach? I’ll go back and watch again.
 
  • #597
When the cause of death (water in the lungs) drowning is verified we at least know the HOW!
If no water in lungs we have a problem.. Something could have happened before she was placed in the lake. We know her seat belt was not on by the fact she floated to the back--still need to know what gear car was in and if her headlights were on.
Something bothers me about the press conference after she was found. The press asked if she was the only one in the car and he hesitated --then said yes!
 
  • #598
It has been well documented and confirmed, that yes, Kiley did attend the party.
I am sorry I missed that information . Where might I find that documentation and confirmation other than Sami . I thought that is why LE was begging for photos or witness statements .. Perhaps when they have a real Press conference they will confirm this.
 
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  • #599
We know her seat belt was not on by the fact she floated to the back--

If she was wearing it, I'm sure she would've taken her seatbelt off once her vehicle started to fill up with water. I doubt she would have just sat there with it on while she sank.

Seatbelt off, would be the first thing. Then either try to open the door, or roll down a window....and you may only have a few seconds to do all of that.
 
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Perhaps the taped-off section on the beach could be evidence of other vehicles? or signs of her vehicle driving erratically

I'm not sure how they would be able to link anything to that night, but maybe they discovered something personal in nature? Maybe her phone?
I've been looking at the pictures on msm. I see a fairly large square roped off. Untnil I saw the pictures I thought the area would be rather small.
 
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