CA - Lady Gaga’s dog walker shot, 2 dogs stolen, Hollywood, 24 Feb 2021 *dogs found safe* *arrests* *Guilty*

[PetDetective]

I meant that the crime happened near where the victim lived. Not where Lady Gaga lives. I would be surprised if she lived in the west part of West Hollywood.

That was clear to me, my comment isn’t really dependent on whose neighborhood it occurred in. Most homes in So Cal have Ring doorbells, if not actual security cameras.

 

[PetDetective]

I'm glad Ryan is recovering.

My only 2c on the issue is please don't buy dogs bred for novelty. As much as I like LadyGaga, I can't sympathise with anyone who buys french bulldogs and then claims to love them like children. It's completely unethical. Imagine buying a baby purposely engineered to have down syndrome.

You know, I usually keep my mouth shut when I see these kinds of statements made online, but I think the odds of having a civil discussion are far better here than elsewhere, so.....

Let me start by saying that I am completely disgusted with breeders that don’t know what they are doing or who do know what they are doing, yet still choose to breed dogs with physical characteristics that are known to cause health problems and suffering to the dogs. And that applies to any and all breeds.

Have you ever interacted with a French Bulldog?
Because I have owned 2, and your analogy of intentionally creating babies with Down syndrome is not accurate.

 

[mickey2942]

There is something wrong with society when people shoot folks to steal dogs. That is messed up on so many levels.

Glad that Lady Gaga got her pups back. I guess that the dog walker needs a security detail now.

 

[SuziQ]

My daughter fell in love with French bulldogs because my granddaughter watched the antics of some Twitter feed where the dog had half a million followers.

He's sweet but he has so many issues. He has skin problems, digestive problems and some other issues which cost them a fortune. He is trainable but like a beagle when he is focused on something all training goes out the window. And he can't swim! His body has been engineered so that he's top heavy, with a huge head and upper torso and a diminishing body toward the rear. Poor little doggo. I feel for him because they have a place in Florida and love to go to the lake here in Ontario but you have to watch him like a hawk. It's like he has half a cement block tied around his neck.

I find it kind of upsetting that my daughter succumbed to the siren song of a designer dog. Especially considering ever pet we've ever had was either a stray or a rescue. My parents were the same. I've never grown up with a puppy or ever had a puppy in my life. Too many unwanted mutts that need homes that pound for pound are heads and shoulders above many purebreds for intelligence and the fact they don't get those weird issues like skin issues, digestive issues, joint issues, susceptibility toward cancer, hip dysplasia, etc. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

Except give love to an unwanted dog that doesn't have a pedigree except in their ability to provide joy and love.

Well I had to adopt a pedigree. Two of them. I have severe allergies that have gotten worse with age. I tried to adopt through rescues, but the contracts they wanted you to sign and home checks before and after adoption were ridiculous. They could take the dog back at anytime. The shelter had only big beautiful dogs. I can't keep up with a big dog and if they knocked me down I could be injured badly. They would get a small dog from time to time. If it was a breed that wouldn't bother my allergies, I had to go down, pick up a lottery ticket, go back the next morning and hope I was the lucky one out of a dozen or more people. I was heartbroken over and over. I also tried the human society. Never saw a small breed I could have. And their small dogs are adopted by 10 am. I did this for months. I was so depressed. I had put down two of my babies the previous year. My husband finally convinced me that there was nothing wrong with buying a dog from a reputable breeder. He was right. I now have my sweet girls and feel like a fool that I waited as long as I did. Please don't judge people until you know their stories. By the way, the shelters and humane society here isn't full of unwanted pets. Alot of cages are empty. And adoption fees are very high. The rescues I check out were as high as 1200.00

 

[mickey2942]

Well I had to adopt a pedigree. Two of them. I have severe allergies that have gotten worse with age. I tried to adopt through rescues, but the contracts they wanted you to sign and home checks before and after adoption were ridiculous. They could take the dog back at anytime. The shelter had only big beautiful dogs. I can't keep up with a big dog and if they knocked me down I could be injured badly. They would get a small dog from time to time. If it was a breed that wouldn't bother my allergies, I had to go down, pick up a lottery ticket, go back the next morning and hope I was the lucky one out of a dozen or more people. I was heartbroken over and over. I also tried the human society. Never saw a small breed I could have. And their small dogs are adopted by 10 am. I did this for months. I was so depressed. I had put down two of my babies the previous year. My husband finally convinced me that there was nothing wrong with buying a dog from a reputable breeder. He was right. I now have my sweet girls and feel like a fool that I waited as long as I did. Please don't judge people until you know their stories. By the way, the shelters and humane society here isn't full of unwanted pets. Alot of cages are empty. And adoption fees are very high. The rescues I check out were as high as 1200.00

There is nothing wrong with having the dog you want.

 

[Catmommy]

Supply and demand is the basis for the marketing of anything and that includes pets. Bringing a pet of any sort into one's home and family is an extremely personal thing. Shaming someone for the creature they decide to take care of and share their lives with will never accomplish the desired end, it just causes a person to be defensive of their choices. Defensive people have a tendency to stop listening to criticism. Puppy mills are bad. Animals who cannot breathe, breed, birth or run correctly are a tragedy. People who choose to care for and love such animals are no more than people who want the unconditional love that pets provide. This is not the forum to debate that. I am glad Gaga got her dogs back. I am glad her friend and dog walker is said to be improving. Our focus should be sleuthing the bad guys, in my opinion, not criticizing other's personal pet choices. Somebody knows who did this abhorrent crime.

( For those who might wonder; I do not and have never owned a French Bulldog. I have adopted from the Humane Shelter, bought from a breeder and paid individuals a couple of times for a purebred who needed a new home - all dogs were excellent, beautiful, loving animals who I've loved in return with all my heart)

 

[zecats]

Supply and demand is the basis for the marketing of anything and that includes pets. Bringing a pet of any sort into one's home and family is an extremely personal thing. Shaming someone for the creature they decide to take care of and share their lives with will never accomplish the desired end, it just causes a person to be defensive of their choices. Defensive people have a tendency to stop listening to criticism. Puppy mills are bad. Animals who cannot breathe, breed, birth or run correctly are a tragedy. People who choose to care for and love such animals are no more than people who want the unconditional love that pets provide. This is not the forum to debate that. I am glad Gaga got her dogs back. I am glad her friend and dog walker is said to be improving. Our focus should be sleuthing the bad guys, in my opinion, not criticizing other's personal pet choices. Somebody knows who did this abhorrent crime.

( For those who might wonder; I do not and have never owned a French Bulldog. I have adopted from the Humane Shelter, bought from a breeder and paid individuals a couple of times for a purebred who needed a new home - all dogs were excellent, beautiful, loving animals who I've loved in return with all my heart)

You're right. I'm extremely happy Lady Gaga got her pups back. My heart hurt for her, and them. I get extra sad in cases that involve animals. (I strictly own cats theses days, but have in my past been a dog owner..mostly terriers, and yes, bought from breeders because whoever could find a Scottie Dog in a shelter or even a pet store randomly.)

There is some video surveillance of the thieves pulling up in the car and taking the dogs. Hopefully there is other video of them driving and perhaps more detail of their faces. Or maybe even a tip or two will turn them in. Only one part of this crime has been resolved with the safe return of her dogs. The dog walker (and dogs) need justice in catching these menaces.

Video can be so useful. A hunter had his truck stolen in our area last weekend, and even in the open and fairly rural area, someone's ring doorbell and security camera captured the truck and the facial image of the driver (there were 2 men). The local cops knocked on all doors asking for such.

 

[branmuffin]

Well I had to adopt a pedigree. Two of them. I have severe allergies that have gotten worse with age. I tried to adopt through rescues, but the contracts they wanted you to sign and home checks before and after adoption were ridiculous. They could take the dog back at anytime. The shelter had only big beautiful dogs. I can't keep up with a big dog and if they knocked me down I could be injured badly. They would get a small dog from time to time. If it was a breed that wouldn't bother my allergies, I had to go down, pick up a lottery ticket, go back the next morning and hope I was the lucky one out of a dozen or more people. I was heartbroken over and over. I also tried the human society. Never saw a small breed I could have. And their small dogs are adopted by 10 am. I did this for months. I was so depressed. I had put down two of my babies the previous year. My husband finally convinced me that there was nothing wrong with buying a dog from a reputable breeder. He was right. I now have my sweet girls and feel like a fool that I waited as long as I did. Please don't judge people until you know their stories. By the way, the shelters and humane society here isn't full of unwanted pets. Alot of cages are empty. And adoption fees are very high. The rescues I check out were as high as 1200.00

While I agree with you that not all pedigree dogs come with a host of health problems many do and their problems are exacerbated by their breeding. There are dogs, like my friend just bought two of, where you have to sign a waiver before they sell them to you promising that you will have them neutered. Part of that is to protect the breed from being diluted but they also come with health issues. Have you ever seen an image of a German Shepherd dog from the turn of the last century? Back then they were dogs that had a straight backbone that didnt angle down to their back legs. Now they look like they're in a permanent pose of just getting ready to jump. So those dogs have a high incidence of hip dysplasia. British Bulldogs don't look the same, either. Their lifespan has been shortened by breeding characteristics that affects their breathing.

I'm not saying that pedigrees dogs shouldn't have their place in society. And where I am, they show up in shelters because the cost of owning them can outweigh their companionship.

I've gotten a Belgian sheepdog from a pound, a beagle, and a hunting hound. I had a mistreated German Shepherd ferried to me from a no kill shelter in another province. So I know first hand the issues they have. My doggie desires aren't so much based on cuteness but "who's been here the longest" when adopting. That Belgian was considered unadoptable. She was the smartest dog we've ever had, bar none. When I brought her home from the pound it was raining. She sat on the front passenger seat and lunged at the wiper blades every time they made a pass. I thought, " OMG, what have I done?" No regrets. And that was with having 3 kitties in the house.

As for those empty pounds and shelters, I feel a potential adoption coming on when all those housebound Covid people won't know what to do with a dog once they can venture out again. The rescue centres will be full once more.

 

[scandinavian girl]

I adopted one from spain and one from romania both were mix then I bought a grown cavalier king charles from a breeder who was rehoming him bcs the previous owners couldn´t keep him. My old lady from romania only had a back problem due to a hard life, my little hombre had a broken bone that have healed with no vet care, My king had allergies, prostate problems, syringo myelia, neck problems bcs his head was too big for his body but mentally he was perfect.

 

[SuziQ]

While I agree with you that not all pedigree dogs come with a host of health problems many do and their problems are exacerbated by their breeding. There are dogs, like my friend just bought two of, where you have to sign a waiver before they sell them to you promising that you will have them neutered. Part of that is to protect the breed from being diluted but they also come with health issues. Have you ever seen an image of a German Shepherd dog from the turn of the last century? Back then they were dogs that had a straight backbone that didnt angle down to their back legs. Now they look like they're in a permanent pose of just getting ready to jump. So those dogs have a high incidence of hip dysplasia. British Bulldogs don't look the same, either. Their lifespan has been shortened by breeding characteristics that affects their breathing.

I'm not saying that pedigrees dogs shouldn't have their place in society. And where I am, they show up in shelters because the cost of owning them can outweigh their companionship.

I've gotten a Belgian sheepdog from a pound, a beagle, and a hunting hound. I had a mistreated German Shepherd ferried to me from a no kill shelter in another province. So I know first hand the issues they have. My doggie desires aren't so much based on cuteness but "who's been here the longest" when adopting. That Belgian was considered unadoptable. She was the smartest dog we've ever had, bar none. When I brought her home from the pound it was raining. She sat on the front passenger seat and lunged at the wiper blades every time they made a pass. I thought, " OMG, what have I done?" No regrets. And that was with having 3 kitties in the house.

As for those empty pounds and shelters, I feel a potential adoption coming on when all those housebound Covid people won't know what to do with a dog once they can venture out again. The rescue centres will be full once more.

I can't solve the worlds problems. I just wanted a couple of little dogs to love.

 

[mickey2942]

I can't solve the worlds problems. I just wanted a couple of little dogs to love.

And you should enjoy them. I am sure that you take excellent care of them. If other people did that, we would not have shelters full of animals who are abandoned. Those are the bad people. Not you!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

And you should enjoy them. I am sure that you take excellent care of them. If other people did that, we would not have shelters full of animals who are abandoned. Those are the bad people. Not you!

Awww, perhaps like you, I would love to be able to be the person who got the 500k to turn back to Gaga to help with the perception around that folks who give up animals are bad people.

Many times, they are good people who cannot give what is needed and took time to realize, their health has gone down, they have no $$ to feed, they have died, the current dogs/cats don't get along etc etc. The term abandoned has a connotation which is perhaps emotional to some and triggers, but sometimes it is for the best to rehome. Like many here at WS, I follow TinyKittens... a feral rescue organization in Canada. They often speak to handing the kittens back if not a fit. Perhaps "shelters" is a trigger word yet so many rescue organizations exist.

It's finding the right home and those that make their way to being adopted by loving folks is so key. And helping for that to happen... it is joy.

I really do think that Gaga used her social influence to not only retrieve the dogs, but underlying what she did made many folks interested in the shooting as a result. And further, I think that it was made clear that she had input from LE as to how/what she was doing by just focusing on the dogs safety... which potentially could out the shooter and dognapping group who resorts to such violence in their efforts.

Perhaps now LE can backtrack video cameras from where the dogs were left? Another piece to follow for the apprehension for the individuals who shot the dog walker. And that, is good. I don't think that without that 500k that those dogs would have been left tied to a pole miles away unless she had done that, giving the breadcrumbs for LE for the two perps, to follow perhaps. MOO

MOO MOO MOO

 

[branmuffin]

Awww, perhaps like you, I would love to be able to be the person who got the 500k to turn back to Gaga to help with the perception around that folks who give up animals are bad people.

Many times, they are good people who cannot give what is needed and took time to realize, their health has gone down, they have no $$ to feed, they have died, the current dogs/cats don't get along etc etc. The term abandoned has a connotation which is perhaps emotional to some and triggers, but sometimes it is for the best to rehome. Like many here at WS, I follow TinyKittens... a feral rescue organization in Canada. They often speak to handing the kittens back if not a fit. Perhaps "shelters" is a trigger word yet so many rescue organizations exist.

It's finding the right home and those that make their way to being adopted by loving folks is so key. And helping for that to happen... it is joy.

I really do think that Gaga used her social influence to not only retrieve the dogs, but underlying what she did made many folks interested in the shooting as a result. And further, I think that it was made clear that she had input from LE as to how/what she was doing by just focusing on the dogs safety... which potentially could out the shooter and dognapping group who resorts to such violence in their efforts.

Perhaps now LE can backtrack video cameras from where the dogs were left? Another piece to follow for the apprehension for the individuals who shot the dog walker. And that, is good. I don't think that without that 500k that those dogs would have been left tied to a pole miles away unless she had done that, giving the breadcrumbs for LE for the two perps, to follow perhaps. MOO

MOO MOO MOO

Thank you for mentioning that people who surrender animals are not bad people. For some it is a heart wrenching decision having to give up a companion. People get sick or too old and weak to look after a pet and sometimes they just can't afford to look after them. Surrendering animals is a lot different than having an animal removed from your care. Even people who surrender animals because it doesn't fit their lifestyle at least are acknowledging they can't or don't want to look after an animal. It's better than dropping them off in a park or a rest stop.

 

[IceIce9]

Her dog walker could have handed over the dogs to avoid being shot. He risked his life for her dogs.

 

[zecats]

Her dog walker could have handed over the dogs to avoid being shot. He risked his life for her dogs.

And he saved one of them. Apparently he was walking all 3 of them.

Lady Gaga's dog walker shot as two of her French bulldogs were stolen in Los Angeles

The man was walking three of Lady Gaga's dogs at the time but one escaped. Tippett told The Associated Press that the dogs belong to the pop star. It's not yet clear if the dog walker was targeted because of his celebrity client, the captain said.

 

[dotr]

Feb 28 2021
Lady Gaga Dognappers May NOT Have Targeted Her

''There's new evidence to suggest the 2 men who dognapped Lady Gaga's French bulldogs and shot her dog walker may not have even known they were her dogs ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement and other sources tell TMZ ... dog walker Ryan Fischer was not just taking a short walk around the block when he was ambushed ... we've learned ... just minutes before the attack he was at a store with the dogs 7 blocks away.''

''Ryan and the 3 dogs were at Almor Wine & Spirits at the intersection of Sunset Blvd. and Fairfax in Hollywood. As most of you know, Sunset Blvd. is heavily trafficked and well lit, and someone could have spotted Ryan and gotten a good look at the dogs ... to determine their breed.
''He then walked 4/10 of a mile ... where he was ambushed on a residential street. TMZ broke the story ... Ryan was shot and 2 dogs were stolen.''

 

[Catmommy]

A couple or so years back two women went to a nationally known chain pet store here, one that still sells puppies. They asked to see and play with two French Bulldog pups. When they were handed the puppies they went right out the front door of the establishment, got in their car and drove away. There was a brief glimpse of them on the store's cc TV that was broadcast on the local news but the women were never identified and the dogs were never recovered. It is my suspicion that this was not their first or last pup burglary, that they probably weren't even from the immediate vicinity and it was the breed's trumped up prices that made them worth the risk.

 

[mickey2942]

A couple or so years back two women went to a nationally known chain pet store here, one that still sells puppies. They asked to see and play with two French Bulldog pups. When they were handed the puppies they went right out the front door of the establishment, got in their car and drove away. There was a brief glimpse of them on the store's cc TV that was broadcast on the local news but the women were never identified and the dogs were never recovered. It is my suspicion that this was not their first or last pup burglary, that they probably weren't even from the immediate vicinity and it was the breed's trumped up prices that made them worth the risk.

When we lived in Las Vegas, our dog was stolen out of our back yard. It was my Grandmother's Bichon. The dog did not run away or escape, she was in the yard with two other dogs, a Bassett hound mix, and a terrier mix. The Bichon was a purebred, not a mutt like the other two dogs. The gate had been securely locked.

The other two dogs may have barked when the Bichon was taken, but they were not guard dogs. It was terrible, to have a dog stolen out of the yard. She had been a gift. Not sure how much those dogs cost....lesson learned. May as well have a mutt, no one wants to steal a "Hienz 57" special.

 

[dotr]

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''Ryan Fischer details the scary moment he was shot and thanks Lady Gaga for all of her support in a new Instagram post. He also says he plans to share more about the attack at a later time''.

 

[LadyL]

I wouldn't want the hassles of messing up taxes lol. And yes, seriously I would indeed turn down a half million dollars. I live frugally and wouldn't want the life changes that might come with such a windfall iykwim. I would rather it go to charity and perhaps just a small small amount for doing the right thing. Lady Gaga could get more publicity for the gift to perhaps promote a needy cause, and I truly trust that her folks would find a fine one or two or more. I've never expected or even considered when I have found and homed a lost dog to be paid anything (I've had it happen twice that I've found a dog and homed it and took it to vets and put on social media.... just happy to get the doggie back to it's owners).

And I also would want anonymity to boot vs. my name splashed in the papers.

oh I'm an animal rescuer so I get it
never accepted any compensation
BUT also never rescued for a celebrity offering $500,000
that could do a lot of good in my world