He was cleared to be in court for his hearing by prison doctors, so I am guessing he wasn't hallucinating at that point and that his medications were working enough to stabilize him.
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The criminal docket for CA counties has never been public friendly. However, you can obtain docket information without charge but only in person using their kiosk. In this case, don't bother paying fee for name search, etc., because most in this case is being sealed. Whether or not this continues under the public defender, I don't know. MOO@Seattle1 - I am trying to find Reiner's court motions - like Morphew has - in the L.A. County court site - do they have a site like that? TIA if there is one!
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Insiders Reveal: 'He's on his own'
1/10/26
Jackson was hired almost immediately after Reiner's arrest last month at the recommendation of Reiner family lawyers.
But since the brutal loss of their beloved parents, Jake, Romy and Tracy decided that distancing themselves from Nick was in their best interest.
'It's not like the Reiners or their nearest and dearest to turn their backs on a family member or anyone close to them but this is different,' the source said. 'This is incomprehensible.
'The disgust over Nick's despicable act is felt by everyone and the inclination to spend millions on his defense is just not there.'
1/10/26
Jackson was hired almost immediately after Reiner's arrest last month at the recommendation of Reiner family lawyers.
But since the brutal loss of their beloved parents, Jake, Romy and Tracy decided that distancing themselves from Nick was in their best interest.
'It's not like the Reiners or their nearest and dearest to turn their backs on a family member or anyone close to them but this is different,' the source said. 'This is incomprehensible.
'The disgust over Nick's despicable act is felt by everyone and the inclination to spend millions on his defense is just not there.'
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The only time a defendant can be forced to take any Rx is by a court order, under the supervision of a medical facility. In other words, no incarcerated defendant being offered meds can be forced to take them.
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I did find the link for the criminal calendar: LA Court@Seattle1 - I am trying to find Reiner's court motions - like Morphew has - in the L.A. County court site - do they have a site like that? TIA if there is one!
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| 25CJCF08098-01 | The People of the State of California vs. Reiner, Nick | Arraignment and Plea | 02/23/2026 8:30AM | Clara Shortridge Foltz Dept. - 30 |
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Inside Nick Reiner's life in jail as he stands accused of murdering parents: Solitary confinement and medical evaluations
Inside Nick Reiner's Life in Jail as He Stands Accused of Murdering Parents: Solitary Confinement and Weekly Medical Evaluations (Exclusive)
Nick Reiner, who stands accused of murdering his parents Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner, remains in solitary confinement and receives medical evaluations every day, according to sources who gave PEOPLE a glimpse at his life behind bars.
Nick is in the Twin Towers Correctional Facility in downtown Los Angeles. He is housed inside Tower 2’s high-observation mental health unit. Doctors and mental health professionals determined Nick has a "mental disability."
He is kept in solitary confinement, alone, in his 7-by-10-foot cell beneath fluorescent lights. He wears jail clothes. Yellow shirts with dark blue pants. He does not wear a suicide smock anymore but remains under close observation.
Nick is served all his meals in his cell. Breakfast is at 6 am, lunch at 10:30 am to 11 am, and dinner around 5 pm.
Breakfast and lunch are usually cold foods while dinner is typically hot food. A sheriff source claims the facility has a different and "better" menu than what's served at other L.A. jails.
Twin Towers Correctional Facility allows inmates to purchase commissary. This can be snacks, hygiene products, stamps, stationary, clothing and even electronics. Inmates have access to both an in-house commissary store, and commissary packages that can be purchased and shipped to the inmate by friends and family.
Nick's next court appearance is set for Feb. 23, 2026.
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Mental illness at L.A. County's Twin Towers jail facility
The crowded Los Angeles County jail system holds thousands who are mentally ill and accused of a crime.
www.latimes.com
An inmate sleeps in a room on the fourth floor of the medical unit of the Twin Towers jail facility. This area houses inmates with the highest level of need -- both psychiatric and medical. (Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
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Livin' the life of luxury.Mental illness at L.A. County's Twin Towers jail facility
The crowded Los Angeles County jail system holds thousands who are mentally ill and accused of a crime.
An inmate sleeps in a room on the fourth floor of the medical unit of the Twin Towers jail facility. This area houses inmates with the highest level of need -- both psychiatric and medical. (Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
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Yeah not quite the guest house.
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I guess these are the penal codes in California and what may be chosen by the judge in his situation if he does not choose to plea guilty. To be honest, I dont know what I'm hoping for. I wish he could be sentenced to a mental institution for life but that doesn't happen as I'm reading? It appears that if he is stabilized, he will go free or be sent to stand trial or go to prison and serve his remainder of time. Is this what you all get from this reading?
Nick Reiner murder trial won’t happen for at least 2 years as public defender starts from 'square one': expert
Legal expert predicted Nick Reiner trial could take years as mental health evaluations loom, while defense change adds new complexity to murder case.
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Nick Reiner murder trial won’t happen for at least 2 years as public defender starts from 'square one': expert
Legal expert predicted Nick Reiner trial could take years as mental health evaluations loom, while defense change adds new complexity to murder case.www.foxnews.com
I don't expect this to get to trial in at least 5 years!!
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I find this very interesting, if true, that Nick’s complaint about weight gain( from meds), was the catalyst for the crime. Cascading affects. The med that caused weight gain was somewhat effective (but caused weight gain). The Dr accommodated Nick, by trying a less effective psych med, to curb weight gain.
Not justifying, Nick may have been very upset about losing his younger body, good looks, maybe comparing with Hollywood standards.
Not justifying, Maybe he longingly thought about earlier, better days slipping away, but couldn’t get back there, the glimmer of hope was constantly dashed. Both his body and his mind were “failing” him. This made him frustrated and desperate for a solution.
Not justifying or victim shaming! Maybe his parents insisted he take the meds, stay stable( as of 9/25?), if he wanted to live in the guest house in Brentwood (Good boundaries on their part). Not sure how they would enforce an adult taking meds?
Maybe this upset Nick, he felt trapped in his own body and mind, helpless, because he knew he couldn’t survive without his parents safety net. He despised Himself for relying on his parents, plus continuing mental illness and street drug use, further twisted his thinking.
Not justifying, Maybe, He had a pattern of taking his anger out on his kind parents, who were always “safe” people, he could show his true self, take his anger out on them, they always understood, helped him recover. (not talking about manipulation here, more like an end of the rope situation).
In the end, he got off the effective meds, lost his mind, and killed the parents who so lovingly tried to save him. Very sad.
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Just for reference purposes, I thought I’d share a few links about how the prosecution of Jared Loughner (who was diagnosed with schizophrenia) played out in Arizona.
On January 8, 2011, Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shot and injured U.S. Representative Gabrielle Dee Giffords at a “Congress on Your Corner” event in a shopping center parking lot in Tucson, AZ. Loughner killed six people in the attack, and in addition to Rep. Giffords, he injured 12 others. Loughner had been exhibiting symptoms of mental illness and engaging in bizarre behavior in the year leading up to the incident.
Community: Loughner’s odd behavior was noticed by others in the community. At the YMCA, where he was a member, he asked strange questions, and during one visit, sat in the men’s locker room for 30 minutes. When he eventually left the locker room, he asked the front desk staff what year it was.
Family: Loughner’s parents were concerned about their son’s well-being based on some of the behaviors he exhibited, such as talking or laughing to himself, and the problems he was having at the community college he attended. Following his suspension from the college, Loughner’s parents hid a shotgun that he owned and disabled his car at night so that he would not be able to drive it without their permission.
https://www.secretservice.gov/media/79/download?inline=true
Attorney Judy Clarke, a former federal public defender who in the past had represented suspects in several high-profile murder and terrorism cases, was appointed to represent Loughner in federal court.[68]
At the direction of Ninth Circuit Appeals court Chief Judge Kozinski, the federal case was assigned to Larry Alan Burns, a San Diego-based judge from the Southern District of California.[71]
On March 3, 2011, a federal grand jury indicted Loughner on additional charges of murder and attempted murder for a total of 49 counts.[75] On March 9, 2011, Loughner pleaded not guilty to all 49 charges.[76]
On May 25, 2011, Judge Burns ruled Loughner was then incompetent to stand trial, based on two medical evaluations. Court proceedings were suspended while Loughner, who had been diagnosed with paranoidschizophrenia,[79] received psychiatric treatment at the psychiatric wing of the U.S. Medical Center for Federal Prisoners in Springfield, Missouri.
He was scheduled to appear in court on September 21, 2011, but that hearing was delayed until September 28, 2011, when the judge reviewed whether he could understand the charges against him and could assist in his own defense.
Loughner disrupted the court hearing with an outburst, and was carried from the courtroom. According to The New York Times, Loughner believed he succeeded in killing Giffords, and clashed with his lawyer when she informed him that the congresswoman had survived.[79]He was judged still incompetent to stand trial following medical evaluations and a hearing in May 2011.
On June 26, 2011, Judge Burns ruled that prison doctors could forcibly medicate Loughner with antipsychotic drugs in order to treat him to restore him to competency for trial,[81][82]but on July 12, 2011, a three-judge federal appeals panel from the Ninth Circuit ruled that Loughner could refuse anti-psychotic medication, since he "has not been convicted of a crime, is presumptively innocent and is therefore entitled to greater constitutional protections than a convicted inmate."[87] However, the ruling stated that it "does not preclude prison authorities from taking other measures to maintain the safety of prison personnel, other inmates and Loughner himself, including forced administration of tranquilizers".[83]
A week after the ruling, prison medical authorities resumed forcible treatment of Loughner with the antipsychotic risperidone, this time citing Washington v. Harper and stating the purpose of treatment was the need to control the danger he posed to himself and others in prison, rather than rendering him fit for trial.[88][89]
On May 24, 2012, a federal judge ordered a competency hearing for June 27 (later postponed until August 7) to determine Loughner's mental fitness to stand trial.[94] On August 7, 2012, Judge Burns found Loughner competent to stand trial based on medical evaluations. Loughner pleaded guilty to 19 counts at the hearing, which spared him the death penalty. The hearing began with Loughner listening to testimony from Christina Pietz, Loughner's forensic psychologist, who testified that he had displayed depressive symptoms in 2006 and was formally diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2011. Pietz said that she believed that, after having been forcibly medicated for more than a year, Loughner had expressed remorse and was a changed individual. She said that he was competent to stand trial and agree to a plea.[97]
As of 2015, Loughner is serving his life sentence at the Federal Medical Center, Rochester, Minnesota, a prison for inmates with specialized health issues.[108]
Jared Lee Loughner - Wikipedia
Federal Judge Larry Burns said Loughner was not insane at the time of the crime. "He knew what he was doing," Burns said according to The Arizona Republic's Wendy Halloran. So, he has no insanity defense.
That's why Burns handed down a symbolic and "astronomical" sentence of seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...oom-loughner-will-sentenced-in-shooting-spree
On January 8, 2011, Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shot and injured U.S. Representative Gabrielle Dee Giffords at a “Congress on Your Corner” event in a shopping center parking lot in Tucson, AZ. Loughner killed six people in the attack, and in addition to Rep. Giffords, he injured 12 others. Loughner had been exhibiting symptoms of mental illness and engaging in bizarre behavior in the year leading up to the incident.
Community: Loughner’s odd behavior was noticed by others in the community. At the YMCA, where he was a member, he asked strange questions, and during one visit, sat in the men’s locker room for 30 minutes. When he eventually left the locker room, he asked the front desk staff what year it was.
Family: Loughner’s parents were concerned about their son’s well-being based on some of the behaviors he exhibited, such as talking or laughing to himself, and the problems he was having at the community college he attended. Following his suspension from the college, Loughner’s parents hid a shotgun that he owned and disabled his car at night so that he would not be able to drive it without their permission.
https://www.secretservice.gov/media/79/download?inline=true
Attorney Judy Clarke, a former federal public defender who in the past had represented suspects in several high-profile murder and terrorism cases, was appointed to represent Loughner in federal court.[68]
At the direction of Ninth Circuit Appeals court Chief Judge Kozinski, the federal case was assigned to Larry Alan Burns, a San Diego-based judge from the Southern District of California.[71]
On March 3, 2011, a federal grand jury indicted Loughner on additional charges of murder and attempted murder for a total of 49 counts.[75] On March 9, 2011, Loughner pleaded not guilty to all 49 charges.[76]
On May 25, 2011, Judge Burns ruled Loughner was then incompetent to stand trial, based on two medical evaluations. Court proceedings were suspended while Loughner, who had been diagnosed with paranoidschizophrenia,[79] received psychiatric treatment at the psychiatric wing of the U.S. Medical Center for Federal Prisoners in Springfield, Missouri.
He was scheduled to appear in court on September 21, 2011, but that hearing was delayed until September 28, 2011, when the judge reviewed whether he could understand the charges against him and could assist in his own defense.
Loughner disrupted the court hearing with an outburst, and was carried from the courtroom. According to The New York Times, Loughner believed he succeeded in killing Giffords, and clashed with his lawyer when she informed him that the congresswoman had survived.[79]He was judged still incompetent to stand trial following medical evaluations and a hearing in May 2011.
On June 26, 2011, Judge Burns ruled that prison doctors could forcibly medicate Loughner with antipsychotic drugs in order to treat him to restore him to competency for trial,[81][82]but on July 12, 2011, a three-judge federal appeals panel from the Ninth Circuit ruled that Loughner could refuse anti-psychotic medication, since he "has not been convicted of a crime, is presumptively innocent and is therefore entitled to greater constitutional protections than a convicted inmate."[87] However, the ruling stated that it "does not preclude prison authorities from taking other measures to maintain the safety of prison personnel, other inmates and Loughner himself, including forced administration of tranquilizers".[83]
A week after the ruling, prison medical authorities resumed forcible treatment of Loughner with the antipsychotic risperidone, this time citing Washington v. Harper and stating the purpose of treatment was the need to control the danger he posed to himself and others in prison, rather than rendering him fit for trial.[88][89]
On May 24, 2012, a federal judge ordered a competency hearing for June 27 (later postponed until August 7) to determine Loughner's mental fitness to stand trial.[94] On August 7, 2012, Judge Burns found Loughner competent to stand trial based on medical evaluations. Loughner pleaded guilty to 19 counts at the hearing, which spared him the death penalty. The hearing began with Loughner listening to testimony from Christina Pietz, Loughner's forensic psychologist, who testified that he had displayed depressive symptoms in 2006 and was formally diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2011. Pietz said that she believed that, after having been forcibly medicated for more than a year, Loughner had expressed remorse and was a changed individual. She said that he was competent to stand trial and agree to a plea.[97]
As of 2015, Loughner is serving his life sentence at the Federal Medical Center, Rochester, Minnesota, a prison for inmates with specialized health issues.[108]
Jared Lee Loughner - Wikipedia
Federal Judge Larry Burns said Loughner was not insane at the time of the crime. "He knew what he was doing," Burns said according to The Arizona Republic's Wendy Halloran. So, he has no insanity defense.
That's why Burns handed down a symbolic and "astronomical" sentence of seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...oom-loughner-will-sentenced-in-shooting-spree
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From this article: Murphy added, "It's called going 1368, and when they do that, the court is required by law to appoint two mental health experts – one at the request of the prosecution, one to request the defense – to evaluate the defendant, determine whether or not the defendant is competent to stand trial, which is different than was he legally saying at the time he committed the charged act. So there's a lot of layers here in mental health cases."Nick Reiner murder trial won’t happen for at least 2 years as public defender starts from 'square one': expert
Legal expert predicted Nick Reiner trial could take years as mental health evaluations loom, while defense change adds new complexity to murder case.
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Couldn't they have just added on/prescribed him GLP-1s? I know that they did that for a Tourette's patient who has her own reality TV show.
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Part of his weight gain is also attributable to genetics.
His head now resembles Rob more, his face is plumper like his grandfather and father before him. His whole physique is more like his fathers.
He’s in his thirties, past his ‘peak’, on the slippery slope and likely not a fitness guy.
Yes, the meds can cause weight gain but what about all the street drugs?
MJ makes one hungry, did he have constant cravings for food? High carb cravings?
Bet he slept more than necessary, slothful lifestyle that he demanded.
Lifestyle has consequences, both good and not so good. MOO, IMO
His head now resembles Rob more, his face is plumper like his grandfather and father before him. His whole physique is more like his fathers.
He’s in his thirties, past his ‘peak’, on the slippery slope and likely not a fitness guy.
Yes, the meds can cause weight gain but what about all the street drugs?
MJ makes one hungry, did he have constant cravings for food? High carb cravings?
Bet he slept more than necessary, slothful lifestyle that he demanded.
Lifestyle has consequences, both good and not so good. MOO, IMO
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I was going to say the same thing. Baylen.
That's perceptive about the contribution of the weight gain aspect of the medications in this tragedy.
Nick was said to have looked like a GQ model.
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Markowitz, a friend of the Reiners, called them a "stronger than strong" close-knit family. He says he used to stay with the family whenever he was in Los Angeles.
Markowitz painted a different picture of Nick Reiner.
He recalled a young man who loved basketball and had traveled to Europe to learn more about his family's Jewish roots. He says he saw Nick and the family in L.A. just 10 days ago.
"[Nick] was going through some rough times for many years, but his soul was so pure and gentle," Markowitz said. "He was on the upswing. Looked like a GQ model. I wish I could give you a tidbit or something, like 'oh, he looked bad and this and that'-- he didn't. That's what's so spooky about mental illness."
NPR
Article with more information on the medications that cause weight gain in Psychiatric treatment:
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Clinical studies indicate that a high prevalence of metabolic syndrome exists in individuals afflicted with serious mental illnesses, particularly those with schizophrenia. In addition, psychotropic agents, including antipsychotic medications and antidepressants, have been found to be associated with substantial weight-gain (Newcomer, 2007).
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The strength of the causal relationship between antipsychotic drug exposure and weight-gain can be assessed using a drugs trial conducted with antipsychotic-naive patients. Tarricone and colleagues (2009) reviewed 11 studies reporting the effects of antipsychotic drugs on body weight in patients naïve to antipsychotic drugs. The mean values of weight-gain in these patients were highly significant from the first few weeks of treatment. The sample averaged around 3.8 kg in gained weight and an increase of 1.2 in body mass index (BMI). Thus, weight-gain associated with antipsychotic drug treatment appears to occur rapidly in the first few weeks and continue during the following months (Tarricone et al.. 2009).
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It may be more difficult to treat obesity in individuals who have gained weight as a result of antipsychotic treatment as their medication increases appetite and produces fatigue and the illness itself decreases motivation and social activities (Centorrino et al. 2006).
Weight-Gain in Psychiatric Treatment: Risks, Implications, and Strategies for Prevention and Management - PMC
Thank you for sharing your insight about medications, their interactions, side effects and resulting issues it adds greatly to the conversation.
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