CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #8

[Curious Me]

Did LE say why RN chose the back bedroom balcony overlooking AS room?

Yes, they said it was the only room with a balcony, I believe.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This link to the NBC affiliate in San Diego has the rope tying re-enactment, as well as most of the photos from the press conference.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Officials-Update-Mansion-Mystery-Deaths-129112698.html

Here is a link to the San Diego County Sheriff's page w/ all the info from the press conference

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/index.html

Thank you so much. I can see everything much clearer than I could in the PC.

I watched the reenactment of the binding of the wrist and it isn't nearly as complex as I had first thought. Just weaving it back and forth.

The hands and feet werent bound together. She first bound her feet and put the rope around her neck and then bound her hands.

IMO

 

[deanna82437]

Also, as was mentioned in a post on this page - that quickly disappeared (odd), rebecca's sister spoke about blood at the scene on Rebecca's body (down her leg I believe the sister said). How could LE have NOT mentioned that today? I have read about involuntary bowel discharge upon death; but how about blood? The main thing: how could LE fail to even mention this? Or did I just miss it?

I heard it as well.

 

[TGIRecovered]

Also, as was mentioned in a post on this page - that quickly disappeared (odd), rebecca's sister spoke about blood at the scene on Rebecca's body (down her leg I believe the sister said). How could LE have NOT mentioned that today? I have read about involuntary bowel discharge upon death; but how about blood? The main thing: how could LE fail to even mention this? Or did I just miss it?

I heard the sister say that on Dr. Drew. She said that Rebecca was not on her period and that the blood had gone down her legs.

 

[jjenny]

I heard the sister say that on Dr. Drew. She said that Rebecca was not on her period and that the blood had gone down her legs.

Where did it come from? Did LE check to make sure it was RN's blood?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

did they address JS/DS alibi today at the PC? were they confirmed to have been at the hospital the entire time today? or was it not mentioned at all?

Yes, LE said that both Dina and Jonah were at the hospital with Max the entire time.

Rebecca was bringing him clothes to change into.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Where did it come from? Did LE check to make sure it was RN's blood?

They did mention she had cuts and abrasions from her body hitting the plants that were in the courtyard.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

In support of the notion that Rebecca wrote this, the third person voice could imply a kind of traumatic disconnection from her sense of self and identity; perhaps a necessary or abetting disjunction between the actor and the subject who are one and the same, as they are primed to carry out a suicide upon herself in this case. Or....

hmmnnn.....this sounds like a logical construct from someone with some psychological training; anybody in this cast of characters who has psychological training?[/QUOTE]

BBM

el,

I know you know the answer to your question......hint...not AS or JS...but..

 

[deanna82437]

Where did it come from? Did LE check to make sure it was RN's blood?

I don't believe it was even mentioned in the PC or asked, cuts and abrasions, but not blood running down her leg.

 

[Quester]

I saw one from before he bought it that had marble floors. I have been looking but cannot find it now. But that is not the point. Everyone keeps saying that this is NOT an especially dangerous staircase, yet we had the tragic death of a young boy as evidence to the contrary, imo.

I believe all pictures we have seen were with carpet - including the pictures from before JS bought the mansion.

To me it sounds like MS' injuries were due more-so to how he fell rather than the structure of the staircase.

In other words, freak accident. Tragic!

MOO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I believe all pictures we have seen were with carpet - including the pictures from before JS bought the mansion.

To me it sounds like MS' injuries were due more-so to how he fell rather than the structure of the staircase.

In other words, freak accident. Tragic!

MOO

I agree it was a freak accident.

IMO

 

[elementry]

Yes, they said it was the only room with a balcony, I believe.

If she was suiciding herself to send some message rage or remorse concerning MS's death or whatever, wouldn't the more appropriate and symbolic place to do it be the very staircase/stairwell at which MS met his end? More private too, considering she supposedly decided to do it naked.OTOH, I once surmised that the room she used could have been MS's. Did they say today that it was a girl's bedroom though?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If she was suiciding herself to send some message rage or remorse concerning MS's death or whatever, wouldn't the more appropriate and symbolic place to do it be the very staircase/stairwell at which MS met his end? More private too, considering she supposedly decided to do it naked.OTOH, I once surmised that the room she used could have been MS's. Did they say today that it was a girl's bedroom though?

Its very hard to get in the mind of a suicidal person.

What is appropriate for a person thinking logically can be altogether different than one thinking illogically.

They said it was a guest room.

IMO, she did it outside so not to have the memories of her doing it inside.

IMO

 

[revampz]

My theory is that both deaths are suspicious. I personally think that RN had something to do with max's death......not intentionally but was involved in the accident, cos I sure as s... do not think that a 7 year old child was running so fast he tripped and went over a balcony all on his own, sorry too far out.. There is more to that story. I then think that she was blamed for his death. As soon as I read she had issues with his children bells started ringing. I have been there done that and know how hard life can become. This would explain getting the 13 year old out of there quickly, they certainly wouldnt want to leave her with a person she dislikes/hates after something like this happens. I also think that she may have disliked the children as if there were issues, why would the children be left alone with someone they disliked???

If she was blamed, and did not like the children I think this would have been the death note for her relationship with the boyfriend and I am sure the texts would have been indicating this, then I can beleive that she did very angry and killed her self in such a way.

 

[Bonepile]

In my original posts based on out of focus and blurred photos I presumed the blue thing around her neck was a blue scarf.

Now that we know it was a blue t-shirt I have to ask the question why was it there? Was it her nightgown which was pulled up around her neck? Was it there to soften the cut of the rope?

The photos of that room and the objects carefully numbered are bizarre to say the least .. and one further question. Did we get an answer to why the rug was rolled up and hauled away, and what about the large framed object that was removed from the house?

 

[katydid23]

If she was suiciding herself to send some message rage or remorse concerning MS's death or whatever, wouldn't the more appropriate and symbolic place to do it be the very staircase/stairwell at which MS met his end? More private too, considering she supposedly decided to do it naked.OTOH, I once surmised that the room she used could have been MS's. Did they say today that it was a girl's bedroom though?

Plus,we do not know what history she and JS had in different rooms there. Maybe that balcony had a special significance, or maybe that room did. We don't know.

Or maybe she wanted to die outside rather than indoors for example.

 

[StJohn]

If she was suiciding herself to send some message rage or remorse concerning MS's death or whatever, wouldn't the more appropriate and symbolic place to do it be the very staircase/stairwell at which MS met his end? More private too, considering she supposedly decided to do it naked.OTOH, I once surmised that the room she used could have been MS's. Did they say today that it was a girl's bedroom though?

I know at least once during the PC, they referred to the room as a guest room and explained it was the only room with a balcony.

 

[Betty P]

If she was suiciding herself to send some message rage or remorse concerning MS's death or whatever, wouldn't the more appropriate and symbolic place to do it be the very staircase/stairwell at which MS met his end? More private too, considering she supposedly decided to do it naked.OTOH, I once surmised that the room she used could have been MS's. Did they say today that it was a girl's bedroom though?

The police referred to it as a "guest" bedroom.

I can't understand why they wouldn't talk about who sent the message to RN's voicemail - the last one she listened to. They claim it was erased and that they couldn't retrieve it. But Rebecca's family said the message was from JS. Why not mention that at the PC today? If they knew the call was from his phone, why not retrieve the message from his? So many questions.

Judging from the LE hedging, they possibly fear JS and go out of their way to avoid linking him to RN's death in any way. IMO.

 

[deanna82437]

In my original posts based on out of focus and blurred photos I presumed the blue thing around her neck was a blue scarf.

Now that we know it was a blue t-shirt I have to ask the question why was it there? Was it her nightgown which was pulled up around her neck? Was it there to soften the cut of the rope?

The photos of that room and the objects carefully numbered are bizarre to say the least .. and one further question. Did we get an answer to why the rug was rolled up and hauled away, and what about the large framed object that was removed from the house?

Great questions and I have no answers. I did not see the entire PC, but don't recall them being addressed. Specifically the rug and large framed object that were removed .. why? Anyone know if they were addressed?

 

[scorekeeper]

Okay, I give up. In my gut I feel that she felt guilty about his accidental death, and she was angry that JS was seeming to blame her. I think her suicide was done in pain and anger and meant to hurt JS as well. But it is hard to share those opinions here without feeling attacked.

katy,

I value your posts and opinions; even though I may disagree. This case has been frustrating from day 1 and today's PC has only created more questions than answers........

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