CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #8

[thumbtack]

If RN's family had the money RS has, her death would have been investigated very differently from the beginning. Sad, really.

 

[MyBelle]

I still feel deeply sorry for her that she thought this was her only way out of these horrible cricumstances and my heart breaks for her family members.

I dont think anyone can supervise a child every minute. People do have to go to the bathroom and I don't blame her for Maxie's tragic accident. If for instances the dog playfully jumped up on Maxie making him lose his balance and tumble over the railing Rebecca could have been standing right there and she couldn't have prevented it.

I know how it feels to lose a loved one to suicide and the 'whys' will never go away.

IMO

I do feel for her and her family but I also feel for Maxie's.

We don't know what happened to Maxie but I do believe if Rebecca had been present, she could have prevented his fall or jump or whatever it was that he was doing.

 

[katydid23]

IMO, this is getting beyond ridiculous.

Max was not a toddler, nor was he an infant left alone in dangerous circumstances.

Please enlighten me as to how Rebecca was supposed to "ensure the safety of the child" before she went to the bathroom.

My parents have a summer cabin in the woods that is very old and kind of dangerous for kids. It is a handmade log cabin and there are sharp edges everywhere. The stairs up to the lofts are very steep and narrow and have very sharp edges. And the upper lofts where the kids go to sleep are dangerous to come down from.

At home my kids could roam pretty freely on their own. But at nana's cabin they could not. They needed to be SUPERVISED. They could not run up or down the stairs. They needed to stay calm and focused because there are no emergency rooms any where near the cabin. It is up in the wilderness area near Mount Lassen. Because of this we never let them play in the cabin alone or go upstairs to the lofts all alone. If we did they tended to get too excited or enthusiastic and forget themselves.

That is ALL I was trying to say about the 27 room mansion. It was NOT childproofed. Evidence being a 6 yr old found lying near death at the bottom of the stairs.

 

[elementry]

If she is the one who wrote the message, why doesn't she say "I saved you," instead of "she saved him."
Another extremely bizarre thing about this whole case. How did RN knew how to tie these kind of knots? She isn't a sailor and never had been one as far as I can tell.

In support of the notion that Rebecca wrote this, the third person voice could imply a kind of traumatic disconnection from her sense of self and identity; perhaps a necessary or abetting disjunction between the actor and the subject who are one and the same, as they are primed to carry out a suicide upon herself in this case. Or....

hmmnnn.....this sounds like a logical construct from someone with some psychological training; anybody in this cast of characters who has psychological training?

 

[justice be served]

If RN's family had the money RS has, her death would have been investigated very differently from the beginning. Sad, really.

I am hoping that Rebecca's family lawyer is doing this pro bono or there would be real issues in finding the truth for her.

 

[sdcali]

Gonna take another look at the PC and photos, etc. Be back later!

 

[arielilane]

If RN's family had the money RS has, her death would have been investigated very differently from the beginning. Sad, really.

Yes, there are rules for the rich, and then there are rules for the not so rich...

 

[MyBelle]

The reason we have child abuse and neglect laws is to thoroughly investigate questionable injuries/incidents involving children. LE is the top line for investigating child abuse and neglect. They ruled this as a TRAGIC ACCIDENT. Did you see the illustration LE did for Maxie's accident?

They spent more time invesigating Maxie death than RN's (MOO).

LE isn't sure what exactly Maxie did because there were no witnesses. I don't need an illustration to conclude it was preventable.

 

[SunnieRN]

She saved him, can he save her. My take on this, written in second person. She saved him, could be that she gave rescue breathing to Maxie, thereby causing him to be 'saved' for a short time, to lead to the parents having to make a decision to turn off life support.

Can he save her? Does this come out of anger? In other words, now that Maxie is basically brain dead with no hope, dying, can he overcome Rebeccas death. This is a very angry message imho.

I can not see Rebecca, if she was in such a despondent mood after a voice mail, deciding to kill herself, without even trying to talk to JS again. Someone was VERY angry, when they painted this message.

 

[askfornina]

anyone have a link to the PC in full?

 

[Soulmagent]

If she is the one who wrote the message, why doesn't she say "I saved you," instead of "she saved him."
Another extremely bizarre thing about this whole case. How did RN knew how to tie these kind of knots? She isn't a sailor and never had been one as far as I can tell.

Just another way to interupt the message would be she wrote was Max was saved instead of left to live.
Wouldnt be a very nice thing to write and would also imply something awful.

 

[SunnieRN]

I had not seen these photos close up. Only watched the PC online and was more listenting to it than watching it since I was at work.

I showed that picture of the bed knots to my husband (he is retired Navy) and asked his opinion. He said he could create knots like that but he doubted RN knew how to. I was fascinated with the intricate nature of the knots.

I would never have come up with that kind of knot configuration for that purpose. IMO, there was definitely someone experienced in knots that tied that to the bedpost. I am even more convinced that RN did not do that. And the paintbrush looks staged. Placed parallel to the rope line.

The more I learn, the more questions I have.

Thank you, as I felt the same way!!

 

[katydid23]

In support of the notion that Rebecca wrote this, the third person voice could imply a kind of traumatic disconnection from her sense of self and identity; perhaps a necessary or abetting disjunction between the actor and the subject who are one and the same, as they are primed to carry out a suicide upon herself in this case. Or....

hmmnnn.....this sounds like a logical construct from someone with some psychological training; anybody in this cast of characters who has psychological training?

I agree about the disconnection and the 3rd person. There was a 14 yr old girl who tragically hung herself in our town. Her parents were devastated and shocked. They had no idea she was that upset about anything in her life.

She was the same age as my daughter and went to a neighboring school so many of the local parents were talking about it, with sorrow and fear.

I was told by one of her friends that she left a note that was written in story form in 3rd party. Like " There once was a girl.." I do not know exactly what the story was about other than she felt her parents were disappointed in her over poor grades and smoking pot and getting in minor trouble at school. The parents felt shell shocked because they did not think they handled it poorly and thought she was back on track.

Anyway I thought it was interesting that she also used "she' instead of "I" in her note. She was not naked, she was dressed in her regular clothing, but she hung herself in her room, and her little sister found her first unfortunately.

 

[arielilane]

I was thinking with all this discussion about the residence, wonder why JS didn't have more hired help and assistance? He after all is the father and homeowner.

 

[askfornina]

Just another way to interupt the message would be she wrote it meaning she saved Max.

Wouldnt be a very nice thing to write and would also imply something awful.

just throwing this out there, pretty off the wall, don't believe it myself but it's a thought i had just now reading this: maybe "can he save her" is referring to god saving her soul in some way? i dunno. i was listening to hln earlier and someone said that rebecca believed people who commit suicide go to hell. not sure where they got that info, i guess the family.

 

[SunnieRN]

How can a rope from the garage have only Rebecca's DNA on it? Who took it out of the package? Wound it up?? Put it on the shelf in the garage?? IF that is even where it really came from.

With every post, it reminds me more and more of the JonBenet Ramsey murder.

 

[Bonepile]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/coronado-mansion-victim-painted-message-door-died/story?id=14435011

 

[justice be served]

just throwing this out there, pretty off the wall, don't believe it myself but it's a thought i had just now reading this: maybe "can he save her" is referring to god saving her soul in some way? i dunno. i was listening to hln earlier and someone said that rebecca believed people who commit suicide go to hell. not sure where they got that info, i guess the family.

That's a good thought! I keep trying to talk myself into the suicide theory and that helps actually. Not saying I'm there......:fence:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

In support of the notion that Rebecca wrote this, the third person voice could imply a kind of traumatic disconnection from her sense of self and identity; perhaps a necessary or abetting disjunction between the actor and the subject who are one and the same, as they are primed to carry out a suicide upon herself in this case. Or....

hmmnnn.....this sounds like a logical construct from someone with some psychological training; anybody in this cast of characters who has psychological training?

I am wondering if this did not get lost in the translation for the ex to the media. If they asked him what it said then he may have said 'she saved him can he save her' but she actually may have written 'I saved you ...can you save me.'

But who knows. A person bound on committing suicide is not in a rational state of mind anyway.

IMO

 

[deanna82437]

How can a rope from the garage have only Rebecca's DNA on it? Who took it out of the package? Wound it up?? Put it on the shelf in the garage?? IF that is even where it really came from.

With every post, it reminds me more and more of the JonBenet Ramsey murder.

Didn't I read earlier today that there was other DNA on the rope, but LE could not identify it? Perhaps that came from the family.